Zamaldelica

[Shooters]

Yeah Shooters, looks definately like the first Zamaldelica standard version/release.
You are doing a real real nice work with her

Crosses coming from first generation super sativa hybrids as parental plants will always add tons of vigour in other hybrids. I'm glad she is helping with your lionheart's breeding/hybrid.

For what kind of traits did you select your Zamaldelica mother, and how does she contribute to the hybrid ? Which are your the breeding goals for the Zamaldelica x Lioheart hybrids?

Thank you very much for sharing your beautiful outdoor plants.

Dubi, you are very welcome and a big fat Thank You! back at ya.

I love the taste flavor and the high of Zamaldelica as it is but it is hard to finish outdoors in my local rain forest so I've been working it back and forth with the lionheart to get a real large plant that grows well in my area and finishes middle Oct at the latest.

So for traits I've been looking for and finding the semi-autoflowering pheno. ZD#05 and ZD#08 have both shown this with females and neither hermed. ZD#06 is male and grown in the greenhouse with unlimited soil still started flowering by Sept 01. The clones of that male plant when still in veg started flowering upon growing rootbound in the pots indicating to me the same auto-flowering trait.

ZD#06 Clone #2

ZD#08 pollinated by the above male for some f2 stock

And I just popped #09 out of the twelve Zamaldelica seeds I have, I really enjoy this smoke very much that it is hard for me to save enough, long enough to even get a 6 month cure on it! Perhaps I should grow more then one at a time me thinks, or keep a mother and grow lots of female clones...

Thank you again for all you've done on this version and the next as I want to get some of those seeds too.

 

[Boss Cocky]

If you got the "Scary" pheno, I can assure you you'll have thoughts alright, be prepared. I didn't think any weed could make me trip nowadays. This did. It's as good as the so called Tom Hill acid pheno. It's best to let it go long. picked early, it's paranoia big time.

Thanks vinrusso for your response and sorry I didn't get back to thank you sooner. Your description sure has me excited! Still tossing up whether to buy a pack of these and run them next (indoor but roughly cocurrent with the outdoor season here in the Southern Hemisphere), or to run the pack of Panama I have.

My cabinet is in my shed and I don't run A/C or heating. I would start flowering in Feb. At this time it's still pretty hot and the temps could reach 30degC regularly. In winter the night time temps get down as low as 7degC and sometimes the cab won't get above 18degC during the day.

What do people think? Am I right in assuming that the Zamaldelica will take the heat better and Panama the cold? I've got Tikal as well to hopefully run next year.

I'm amped to be running anything by Ace and I love lemon and strawberry flavours but the effects of Zamaldelica are very tempting.

 

[yoss33]

Hey, Boss Cocky, both Panama and Zamaldelica are yieldy and potent sativas. Panama is a bit more worked and has better plants for indoor. Yet, I think it all comes down to whether you want more adrenaline in the high - then choose Zamaldelica, otherwise Panama. With both strains you'll have some phenos to choose from.
By the way, not that this is on this thread's topic, but a friend of mine found that Panama doesn't like low room temperatures. Nepal Jam, Bangi Haze and Tikal were growing fine at 15*C day temperature, while all Panamas were somewhat stunted. They improved immediately when the temperature was increased to 25*C. So, Panama perhaps is not good for the winter season.

 

[mikeandnaomi]

Dubi, you are very welcome and a big fat Thank You! back at ya.

I love the taste flavor and the high of Zamaldelica as it is but it is hard to finish outdoors in my local rain forest so I've been working it back and forth with the lionheart to get a real large plant that grows well in my area and finishes middle Oct at the latest.

So for traits I've been looking for and finding the semi-autoflowering pheno. ZD#05 and ZD#08 have both shown this with females and neither hermed. ZD#06 is male and grown in the greenhouse with unlimited soil still started flowering by Sept 01. The clones of that male plant when still in veg started flowering upon growing rootbound in the pots indicating to me the same auto-flowering trait.

ZD#06 Clone #2

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ZD#08 pollinated by the above male for some f2 stock
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And I just popped #09 out of the twelve Zamaldelica seeds I have, I really enjoy this smoke very much that it is hard for me to save enough, long enough to even get a 6 month cure on it! Perhaps I should grow more then one at a time me thinks, or keep a mother and grow lots of female clones...

Thank you again for all you've done on this version and the next as I want to get some of those seeds too.

You've inspired me to grow this plant. Thanks for sharing...

 

[Boss Cocky]

Hey, Boss Cocky, both Panama and Zamaldelica are yieldy and potent sativas. Panama is a bit more worked and has better plants for indoor. Yet, I think it all comes down to whether you want more adrenaline in the high - then choose Zamaldelica, otherwise Panama. With both strains you'll have some phenos to choose from.
By the way, not that this is on this thread's topic, but a friend of mine found that Panama doesn't like low room temperatures. Nepal Jam, Bangi Haze and Tikal were growing fine at 15*C day temperature, while all Panamas were somewhat stunted. They improved immediately when the temperature was increased to 25*C. So, Panama perhaps is not good for the winter season.

Thanks very much yoss33. Very useful information. I would have run the Panama over winter but will do the Tikal then instead. I don't know whether I will prefer having some adrenalin in the high. All I know is that anything I've had before that was psychedelic was also racey, cool to cold, scary if over indulged and had a sensitizing effect that was the opposite of a tolerance build up - the more times I smoked it (only once a week) the less I needed to get to where I wanted to be. I feel more confident with Zamaldelica in this regard. I'm curious about Panama and Malawi because I'm yet to experience anything that is both stoney and psychedelic.

I'm probably just splitting hairs about what to run first as I'm sure I will enjoy them all.

A question to Dubi or anyone else that might know: If I have a Zamal dominant plant that has auto-flowering tendencies, will they be reduced or exasipated by the use of air-pots?

 

[yoss33]

... All I know is that anything I've had before that was psychedelic was also racey, cool to cold, scary if over indulged and had a sensitizing effect that was the opposite of a tolerance build up - the more times I smoked it (only once a week) the less I needed to get to where I wanted to be...

That exactly is the Zamaldelica I have I often get amazed at how high I get in the evenings after a whole day of smoking. As if tolerance develops only for the stony part of the high, and the real high actually accumulates with each smoking throughout the day - in the evening I get very high from similar quantity to what I smoke all day, yet it's not as racy, but glowing with visual clarity and freshness. The true and pure 'psychedelic' state is entered after several hours of being high.
I love these extreme sativas that have this reverse "tolerance".

 

[Holeshot]

Zam

Zam

I'm toking some Zamaldelica Fem now. Beautiful!! Panama is a very good yielder and very tough . Great structure . My Zamaldelica fem is tall , large leaves open habit.large buds.

 

[dubi]

Dubi, you are very welcome and a big fat Thank You! back at ya.

I love the taste flavor and the high of Zamaldelica as it is but it is hard to finish outdoors in my local rain forest so I've been working it back and forth with the lionheart to get a real large plant that grows well in my area and finishes middle Oct at the latest.

So for traits I've been looking for and finding the semi-autoflowering pheno. ZD#05 and ZD#08 have both shown this with females and neither hermed. ZD#06 is male and grown in the greenhouse with unlimited soil still started flowering by Sept 01. The clones of that male plant when still in veg started flowering upon growing rootbound in the pots indicating to me the same auto-flowering trait.

And I just popped #09 out of the twelve Zamaldelica seeds I have, I really enjoy this smoke very much that it is hard for me to save enough, long enough to even get a 6 month cure on it! Perhaps I should grow more then one at a time me thinks, or keep a mother and grow lots of female clones...

Thank you again for all you've done on this version and the next as I want to get some of those seeds too.

Thanks to you Shooters! It's my pleasure that you are enjoying so much Zamaldelica and that is being useful for your own breeding projects

PD: I used for the latest Zamaldelica standard reproduction 2 males that look very similar to yours: with fat (not lanky) distribution of flowers, big male flowers, strong stinky aromas and moderate flowering time.

 

[dubi]

A question to Dubi or anyone else that might know: If I have a Zamal dominant plant that has auto-flowering tendencies, will they be reduced or exasipated by the use of air-pots?

Hi Boss Cocky,

I think aero pots won't induce much semi autoflowering response in your Zamaldelicas, as the roots can grow and grow without limitations.

The semi auto flowering trait appeared in a small rate in the first Zamaldelica standard release, and mainly when it was grown in small pots restricting the root space.

Anyway, the semi autoflowering traits have been avoided in the latest Zamaldelica's breeding and it is rare to find in current releases, especially in the feminized version.

 

[dubi]

Thank you, dubi!
I'm very pleased with the results and I'm happy that I decided to try my chance with Zamaldelica again this year. The pack of 10 (actually 12) regular seeds I bought for 30 euro in 2013 is perhaps the most worthy pack of seeds I have ever bought, and I still have 4 seeds left 8 seeds - 7 potent females, no hermies, vigorous strong plants, good flowering, no problems with mold... I know I can rely on the 4 seeds left.
This year's plant yielded 630 grams of the colas only. And the effect is very similar to the early samples of the Thai plant that is still flowering. I'll see what a good cure will do to them both, but so far the Zamaldelica is of the same high quality as the pure Thai, but with much shorter and more solid flowering. It's a winner.

Thanks yoss33

Your feedback is much appreciated, i know you are a talented and experienced grower.
And i respect you a lot for the way you grow these sativas in a climate that is usually not very suitable for these kind of tropical sativas.

 

[dubi]

hello all, this is my first post here......wanted to share my feminised zamadelica, she is in week 7.......sorry about the 420 mag label on the bottom of the pics....I could figure out how to upload them right to this site......
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I am fairly new to growing this is wrapping up my first year........can anyone help me out with a pheno?
Thanks all

Welcome Nematodenate

Your Zamaldelica fem looks very resinous and well developed after just 7 weeks of flowering. Looks like she can be harvested easily around the 10th week of flowering.

It's great to see the new Zamaldelica fem release doing so nice!

Let me know if you have any concrete doubt about her.

 

[Nematodenate]

Hey dubi, thanks for the welcome......yes I harvested her last night right at ten weeks, she ran at 11/13 light cycle, her are some harvest pics, if anyone can direct me in the direction on how to post pics directly I would appreciate it.

Here she is, very spicey and peppery smell.......

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I also have a Malawi x pck and golden tiger to pop after the new year.......gotta love Ace.....

 

[meadowman]

i think you need 50 post. welcome!

 

[jesbuds]

if anyone can direct me in the direction on how to post pics directly I would appreciate it.

Go Advanced -> Attach Files -> Manage Attachments -> Choose file -> Upload pics

 

[Boss Cocky]

That exactly is the Zamaldelica I have I often get amazed at how high I get in the evenings after a whole day of smoking. As if tolerance develops only for the stony part of the high, and the real high actually accumulates with each smoking throughout the day - in the evening I get very high from similar quantity to what I smoke all day, yet it's not as racy, but glowing with visual clarity and freshness. The true and pure 'psychedelic' state is entered after several hours of being high.
I love these extreme sativas that have this reverse "tolerance".

Thanks for sharing your experience, yoss33. Yet another confirmation that I want this plant in my garden. I ended up popping my pack of Panama. Didn't want to wait for a seed order to come through to pop some beans. I look forward to experiencing some herb that is both Stoney and psychedelic.

 

[Boss Cocky]

Hi Boss Cocky,

I think aero pots won't induce much semi autoflowering response in your Zamaldelicas, as the roots can grow and grow without limitations.

The semi auto flowering trait appeared in a small rate in the first Zamaldelica standard release, and mainly when it was grown in small pots restricting the root space.

Anyway, the semi autoflowering traits have been avoided in the latest Zamaldelica's breeding and it is rare to find in current releases, especially in the feminized version.

Thanks dubi. I was considering the semi-auto traits and whether air-pots might help to avoid this as I was looking to run the older Zamal/Thai dominant beans you referred to a few pages back. Are these the first standard release you refer to here? What year are they from?

Thanks in advance,
Boss Cocky

 

[Holeshot]

Zamaldelica bud

Zamaldelica bud

Hey Zamaldelica lovers .!!Just dried buds. Well I dry them very slowly for at least 2 weeks or longer . This fem is a very good yielder of sweet earthy tasting , mind altering goodness. . Really nails me !!

 

[Terpene]

The variation of phenotypic expressions is leading me to assume that Zamaldelica is an open pollination of unique crosses of your creation. I found a pheno that is very short, almost identical to purple urkle in veg and a large stretchy pheno that looks similar to uk cheese with strong haze looking structure. It vegges like a charm and in flower all of them stack tons of buds and lack the "significance" to be called a keeper. *imo* Not a weak strain, actually decently strong, and decent tasting, not memorable though. if you're searching for yield, then look no further, but if you're looking for significance... I'm not being negative but I do like being honest, so my opinion is zamal is missing significance. Even though I have only finished one rip with my z1-z6 phenos, with one more to go before zamal becomes an experience of the past.

This post is surprising to me, but I completely understand where you're coming from - different tastes, different opinions of what you're looking for, etc. I would advise letting them cure out before smoking them, though mine were potent from the first day they were even semi-dry.

What conditions were the plants grown in? Do your taller, stretchier phenos have a different high than your squat plants?

Golden tiger is an excellent line, though its very similar to Zamaldelica (especially the first release which is basically Golden Tiger x Zamal). I found the zamal addition to add a certain level of "trippyness" to the standard malawi high (deeply moving, lysergic). How would you compare your experience with golden tiger to zamaldelica? What did you like about one versus the other?

 

[Tangwena]

I agree the one Zamal I grew 3 times is going to reprogram most people if cured properly.
Everyone goes for different highs, but its all down to the grow and then cure. But GT is the one I like the best of all, a high for every occation.
Tangwena

 

[GET MO]

After one month malawi cob cure of my zamaldelica, I finally sampled her. The first time i was tipsy so I couldnt remember, but then yesterday my and my wife spilt a joint over the course of the evening. The high was quick onset, got us loaded. It wasnt by any means the up functional high I was expecting, but it was pretty damn good. It was good for laying down watching movies, and woulda been some great sex weed im sure if the kids woulda went to sleep before we passed out. It was a very relaxing and laid back loaded high. Also very munchie inducing.