Here's my other Zam 64 days in flower. The smell is very muted but the other day I caught an overwhelming whif of what reminded me of the smell of the hot carmal they dipped apple's in at the fair. Any comment's are appreciated. Again this is all new to me.
Zamaldelica
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SolarLogos
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What are you doing sitting on your hands my friend, get typing on that keyboard of yours! You only have 4 more posts to reach your thousand you soon to be senior member!
Peace, God bless
I'm happy to be enjoying my first Zamaldelica high, after harvesting this lovely lady:
Sadly, this girl went through hell after that photo was taken: first, she re-vegged, which means that she sat there looking forlorn for a month, while her lovely colas slowly grew into huge airy pom-poms. They finally started back into flower a couple weeks ago.
In the meantime, autumn was marching into the scene. I recall the first post in this thread, posting photos of last year's outdoor plants covered in snow in mid-October. Well, the snow was back, same time this year. But this time the snow blew into town on the back of a ginormous cold air mass that moved south from the Arctic. Our temps went from 80 degrees and pleasant, cool nights to 14 degrees the next morning - and the temps never rose over 25 degrees for the following day and night.
I had warning, and went to lengths trying to cover my plants and protect them from the cold, but the cold just extended too long, and even the girls in the greenhouse were hit hard by the frost. The plant appeared dead except for a few tiny buds on the interior.
Thankfully, while the plant was re-vegging, all the trichomes formed during the earlier flowering were happily aging, and when I examined the trichs with a loupe, the color distribution was roughly 15/60/15 Amber/Milky/Clear. I decided to harvest most of the colas now, and leave some near the interior, with clear life in them, to continue flowering in coming weeks.
In the end, the colas didn't look nearly so pretty as they did in that first photo in this post, but they were big, and there were a lot of them! Here's a photo of a typical cola, along with a single bud lying at the scissor-point.
Buds the size of golf balls and baseballs are not uncommon, but they are as light and airy as they are huge: I just smoked that bud in the photo, and it was not quite a gram.
I'm happy to report a pleasant high, even within a week of harvest. I can't wait to learn how the effects will change as it cures.
And I'm thrilled to have harvested nearly ten gallons of bud from a single plant, knowing that I'm enjoying the high as I type. I remember when I was excited to harvest a couple quarts a year ago!
Sadly, this girl went through hell after that photo was taken: first, she re-vegged, which means that she sat there looking forlorn for a month, while her lovely colas slowly grew into huge airy pom-poms. They finally started back into flower a couple weeks ago.
In the meantime, autumn was marching into the scene. I recall the first post in this thread, posting photos of last year's outdoor plants covered in snow in mid-October. Well, the snow was back, same time this year. But this time the snow blew into town on the back of a ginormous cold air mass that moved south from the Arctic. Our temps went from 80 degrees and pleasant, cool nights to 14 degrees the next morning - and the temps never rose over 25 degrees for the following day and night.
I had warning, and went to lengths trying to cover my plants and protect them from the cold, but the cold just extended too long, and even the girls in the greenhouse were hit hard by the frost. The plant appeared dead except for a few tiny buds on the interior.
Thankfully, while the plant was re-vegging, all the trichomes formed during the earlier flowering were happily aging, and when I examined the trichs with a loupe, the color distribution was roughly 15/60/15 Amber/Milky/Clear. I decided to harvest most of the colas now, and leave some near the interior, with clear life in them, to continue flowering in coming weeks.
In the end, the colas didn't look nearly so pretty as they did in that first photo in this post, but they were big, and there were a lot of them! Here's a photo of a typical cola, along with a single bud lying at the scissor-point.
Buds the size of golf balls and baseballs are not uncommon, but they are as light and airy as they are huge: I just smoked that bud in the photo, and it was not quite a gram.
I'm happy to report a pleasant high, even within a week of harvest. I can't wait to learn how the effects will change as it cures.
And I'm thrilled to have harvested nearly ten gallons of bud from a single plant, knowing that I'm enjoying the high as I type. I remember when I was excited to harvest a couple quarts a year ago!
Mr.Revolution
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Gotta male Malawi type I'll prob cut down if the clone takes root. Not sure what I'll do with the pollen but I have a few ideas.
This girl is like an octopus, arms sticking out everywhere. I've tied her up though now that she is putting on weight. I'm guessing it's the Thai pheno and I'm bracing for an electric experience.
She still has a few weeks to go I think although she's running out of steam and I probably should have been giving her more PK these past few weeks. She's not had much aroma compared to some but today I caught a nice little whiff of sweet morning dew.
She still has a few weeks to go I think although she's running out of steam and I probably should have been giving her more PK these past few weeks. She's not had much aroma compared to some but today I caught a nice little whiff of sweet morning dew.
Consolidated
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Hello there, i wanna say that this summer i really appreciated Zamaldelicas high. The purity and the clear high, i got from her.
I don't like the type of high when you have to guess, - am I high or maybe not -. Zamaldelica have the power and effects of my liking...
This summer i have a plant from seed, ( from the marriage of a fem Zam and a Thai style male
- Zamaldelica st. -).
Just harvested...
I don't like the type of high when you have to guess, - am I high or maybe not -. Zamaldelica have the power and effects of my liking...
This summer i have a plant from seed, ( from the marriage of a fem Zam and a Thai style male
- Zamaldelica st. -).
Just harvested...
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ColaCalyx
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Something about this girl puts the budworms off....soo many eggs, but I haven't seen one cattie or any damage...so badass. Her buds are small and don't seem to be getting much bigger, but she's throwing all kinds of new pistils, so maybe she'll swell a bit more. Hoping that's the case because she is frosty and smells like lemon, melon, and has the same diesel/burnt rubber/tar? background that disgusts/interest me lol
Something about this girl puts the budworms off....soo many eggs, but I haven't seen one cattie or any damage...so badass. Her buds are small and don't seem to be getting much bigger, but she's throwing all kinds of new pistils, so maybe she'll swell a bit more. Hoping that's the case because she is frosty and smells like lemon, melon, and has the same diesel/burnt rubber/tar? background that disgusts/interest me lol
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ColaCalyx
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This is my first time growing Zamaldelica. I am curious what kind of expression I have here.
I don't have any experience with the parents, except the Malawi in the Guawi cross I grew. The other Zamaldelica plant I grew this round finished nearly a month ago, and looked very similar to the Guawi. This one is a bit different and has very curly pistils. Any feedback would be helpful and entertaining!
I don't have any experience with the parents, except the Malawi in the Guawi cross I grew. The other Zamaldelica plant I grew this round finished nearly a month ago, and looked very similar to the Guawi. This one is a bit different and has very curly pistils. Any feedback would be helpful and entertaining!
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SolarLogos
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First I want to congratulate you, those are some nice and healthy plants! Buds look really nice. I'm growing Zam for the first time, however, I did harvest my ZamPan recently, she was a zam pheno. I let all her hairs brown, but there were always 2 or 3 new ones per bud that kept coming up. Letting her wait a little longer, she really gave a big push for resin in the last 10 days.
I'm guessing another 10 days and I bet she has a lot more resin, maybe evaluate her again then, may even have longer, no telling what she will do between now and then, that's the fun part. Yukon is the guy to ask, he is the ZamMan. He could also tell you if those calyxes can swell more, the kind of high early and late harvests do, etc.
Sorry I'm not much help. I do know, those are mighty fine plants
Peace, God bless
ColaCalyx I'd say this is a balanced expression. Looks like a rather Thai leaning Golden Tiger with the Good yeld of Malawi and the bright orange dried pistils of Zamaldelica.
Zam pheno I grew which were similar looking had the most subtle flowery terpenes of the pack, carrot smell was here but not as blatant as on the more Zamal leaning phenos
Zam pheno I grew which were similar looking had the most subtle flowery terpenes of the pack, carrot smell was here but not as blatant as on the more Zamal leaning phenos
YukonKronic
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I think I agree mostly with this... I will say I see some similarities in flower (calyxes and delicate wispy florets) and plant structure (horizontal branches are something I have always associated with Zamal..) to my more Zam/Thai phenos in my own Guatemalan crosses.
Zam elite usually is pretty loud candy fruit/flowers and a carrot back i think... Dubi is right to covet her.
If yours doesn’t have the candy floral notes or sweet carrot mango then I’m wondering at the possibility of Zamal (think more recessive... not the elite but also.... interesting
) or Thai influence.In any case time will tell and I can say if that were in my garden I’d be getting ready to give her another 4-5 weeks if needed.
First pic shows a plant just barely starting to eat her large fans... she’s so green I dare say I would only place her as around halfway into stacking.
Third pic shows some older calyxes swelling a little bit being buried in white hairs.., you want her to STOP pushing any hairs or at least slow down to a couple here and there verrry slowly. At the point I usually start to see the resins stand right up off the leaves and begin clouding.
Take early at this point for more of an energetic sort of experience and wait for as much amber as you like to continue adding extra depth and meditative value bit by bit...
I like to go for all cloudy and 10-20 percent amber these days but I’m in a more Thai influenced area of the gene pool so the energy is always there..
Cure it. Loooong time too. 3 months makes it something really special.
Lol if you find one that’s wicked trippy for you (they’re all good but I found one once... whew... rocket ride to space. Uncontrollable.) then save clones and try going all Amber.
Then tell us how it went if you regain the ability to type
lol
YukonKronic
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This is my ZamxGuatemala line that was back crossed to a heavily Thai/Zamal female with exceptional resins. I could have left this plant another week but cut it to start a renovation. I believe this was pretty close to 13 weeks give/take a few days. As you can see it got cold to help her finish and I also reduced lighting to 10 hours per day but the level of senescence is quite advanced and the plant could well have taken another ten days or more before Ambering completely. It came out almost all cloudy with a few clears and ambers but having smoked it (lol yea I know I shoulda cured it... just a seed evaluation though not a keeper) I wish I went for 30% amber... next time.
The best thing isn’t just the extra potency from very late harvest... those wispy looking foxtails are hard... it gets outright leathery dense in last weeks of life.
Of course... outside unless you have a green house or a sunroom you can use it becomes a considerably different thing.
Weather, pathogens, neighbours or their kids, animals wild or domestic and just plain watering and feeding enough to keep up with sunlight driven growth rates are all driving factors in the choice to harvest in the great out doors.
My hats off to those who make it happen.. even if it’s in your backyard or patio.
The best thing isn’t just the extra potency from very late harvest... those wispy looking foxtails are hard... it gets outright leathery dense in last weeks of life.
Of course... outside unless you have a green house or a sunroom you can use it becomes a considerably different thing.
Weather, pathogens, neighbours or their kids, animals wild or domestic and just plain watering and feeding enough to keep up with sunlight driven growth rates are all driving factors in the choice to harvest in the great out doors.
My hats off to those who make it happen.. even if it’s in your backyard or patio.
ColaCalyx
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Thanks SolarLogos, baduy, and YukonKronic! I appreciate your insights. This girl is a bit more interesting to me than the last zam, her scent has more layers and she frosted up very early. She was runty during veg yet her stretch was explosive. Very excited to see her continue to develop. Irie vibes!
ColaCalyx
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Wow Yukon, she is beautiful. Those buds look like rattletails!
I think I remember seeing your ultra-frosty zam, it was unbelievable.
My Zam has been frosty from early on, I believe my phone camera pics dont do her justice, and the sun here is crazy strong making pics hard. Here's some shaded pics of mostly inner buds
I think I remember seeing your ultra-frosty zam, it was unbelievable.
My Zam has been frosty from early on, I believe my phone camera pics dont do her justice, and the sun here is crazy strong making pics hard. Here's some shaded pics of mostly inner buds
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ColaCalyx
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Yes Tangwena it's a blessing.
But outdoors is my only option, so I have to keep it at 6 plants once a year, which is hard for a guy who loves variety. I dream of the day I can keep mothers from special plants or play with breeding in an indoor setup. Actually looking to remedy the one harvest per year by growing some autos for the winter set.
Please dont start growing outdoors, you'll make a lot of us look bad lol
But outdoors is my only option, so I have to keep it at 6 plants once a year, which is hard for a guy who loves variety. I dream of the day I can keep mothers from special plants or play with breeding in an indoor setup. Actually looking to remedy the one harvest per year by growing some autos for the winter set.
Please dont start growing outdoors, you'll make a lot of us look bad lol
YukonKronic
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Hot damn that’s a good un.... one of the ones that makes it real hard to know when to cut because it’s so damn frosty and I’m betting it puts its growth on in spurts from here out... big push.. ripens up.. does nothing. WHAM! another push of pistils... slows down ripen up etc...
If she just never stops and your happy with density Terps etc on a sample then just pick her right before another big push and she oughta be purt good... probably still won’t be there for couple weeks or so though I think.
Very nice resins forming
I’m playing in the gene pool that I used that Zam in... one of these days I’m going to put time into coaxing out more of her influence in a seed line. Above pictures were of her daughter with the father being a ZamxGuatemala male (F2 Zam dominant compact structure strong branching and explosive flowering response) if I recall my notes correctly.
The male (F2) was also father of current F3 ZamxGuatemala IBL seedstock.
I have a beautiful strawberry lime/mango female with great warm trippy effect from the IBL F3s that I’m going to cross to the z13bx line.
Heres the foxy foxtail girl from earlier as she dries
