NoNameNoshame
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NiteTiger said:
All the money spent on the U.S. Nuclear Weapons Program would buy every american.....not every house.........a brand new car.
But then again, we may need all those ICBM's to support are large political mouth
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Why Work? The Zero Work Movement
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All the money spent on the U.S. Nuclear Weapons Program would buy every american.....not every house.........a brand new car.
But then again, we may need all those ICBM's to support are large political mouth
Berry_Coughin' said:
hello man,
no one pays for anyone else here for free medical care, the goverment pays for it because it is the goverment who now handles the oil business, and since oil is of all venezuelans, the goverment uses oil money to pay for our free medical services and medicines.
the story you heard was completely untrue, i dunno how that would even be possible to accomplish...
peace.
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im not too happy about your country wanting to make a pipeline through the amazon. i forget if it's for oil or ethanol or what. but damn, that is saddening.
Gelatinous said:
what? i have not heard of that, have a source? as far as i know, it is brasil and the u.s making deals to cut down a part of the amazon to grow biomass for ethanol. not venezuela.
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oh yes, the gasoducto... i don't like it one bit either. they should just move the stuff through ships. the project hasn't started and hopefully they find a better way...
peace
peace
I'm all for other alternatives. If you want to start your own business then good luck, I respect small business owners. If you want to live on the streets, fine all the power to you. I agree that corporate capitalism has fucked things up to a degree.
In an ideal world I would provide for myself, have my own land farm a portion to provide the greenery and sustinance I need, go out and kill a couple deer, moose what have you to provide my meat. However I need money to get the capital for said land, and having to pay someone to sit at home and do nothing makes it harder on myself.
In an ideal world I would provide for myself, have my own land farm a portion to provide the greenery and sustinance I need, go out and kill a couple deer, moose what have you to provide my meat. However I need money to get the capital for said land, and having to pay someone to sit at home and do nothing makes it harder on myself.
LeoNardoDaVinci
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Gangabiss said:
I haven't read the whole thread yet but I would like to say get the fuck off this guys back. He is more enlightened then the whole dirty lot of you, and that makes me unenlightened just to say, but you people who I'd like to call brothers need to wake the frig up already.
Rare Groove
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NiteTiger said:
I've been trying to stay on the sidelines for this one, but that line really got to me. You actually think it's that easy to get a free ride to college from the government? Good luck with that...
sophisto
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Berry_Coughin' said:
Aye yi yi, I mean to say that if we have such a huge deficit how are we able to still print money?? 6 trillion deficit, still printing money???? Something fishy here.....If we had a deficit to the government we would be homeless if we didnt pay...Why arent they homeless, their debt multiplies daily??
Rare Groove said:
Actually, yeah. Better yet, I don't think it, I know it, as it is how I attended college.
I appreciate the best wishes though, although they are about 10 years too late. Could you apply 'em to the Aeronautics degree I'm considering going after, though? Already have a free ride through that one too, courtesy of the government.
Thanks again!
They do destroy money.... you know that right sophitso..... I don't know if it is a balance... but they destroy money every year......
and what exactly is owed... what is a debt... what is a dollar? A note that says I owe you 1 dollar worth of what? gold? not anymore.......
and what exactly is owed... what is a debt... what is a dollar? A note that says I owe you 1 dollar worth of what? gold? not anymore.......
NiteTiger said:
BULLSHIT!!!
While someone attempting to live that lifestyle wth no knowledge and preparation would "be dead in three days if you had to do what you're idolizing", a serious person who truely wants to embrace that lifestyle can do so quite well, and with wonderful results. Once you have the infrastructure established, that life is actually WAY less labour and stress intensive than working for money which you then use to live off.
I have a friend who lives on 18 acres of country property. He built his own house, which is off the grid and wired for 12V. He grows most of his own food in the summer and fall.
The entire set-up cost him $80K total over 6 years...thats the land, the house, his power system and everything.
He lives on about $12K cash a year, and works about 12 hours a week for money. The rest of his time is spent taking care of his land/gardens and relaxing.....he does an average of 3-5 hours of work a day total.....the rest of his time is HIS.
If one is serious, living a low-key, low-impact life of subsistience farming and gathering is about the best life one can have.....3-5 hours work a day, almost no taxes, no money worries, and tons of free time.
And most important........ the knowledge that one is not part of and dependant on a malignant and destructive economy.
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Whoa now Genki, don't get all excited 
Take a breath, and ease off the knee-jerk 'he's attacking subsistence living!" reaction :wink:
I understand exactly what you're saying. And I agree. As we've discussed on multiple occasions, I'd love to do what your friend does.
My statement was directed at the 'no work' crowd, not to the average person who is willing to work hard to achieve that level of comfort. And, in your statement, you actually agreed with me -
Exactly what I was saying. You have to be prepared and work towards it as a goal. You can't get there without hard work.
Here's the key, per you - "Once you have the infrastructure established". If you're unwilling to work, how does that infrastructure get established again?
We're in agreement on this one Genki. You took my post out of context, although you're not the type to do it intentionally, I don't think.
Besides, I've seen your idea of punishment for those that anger you
Take a breath, and ease off the knee-jerk 'he's attacking subsistence living!" reaction :wink:I understand exactly what you're saying. And I agree. As we've discussed on multiple occasions, I'd love to do what your friend does.
My statement was directed at the 'no work' crowd, not to the average person who is willing to work hard to achieve that level of comfort. And, in your statement, you actually agreed with me -
Genkisan said:
Exactly what I was saying. You have to be prepared and work towards it as a goal. You can't get there without hard work.
Here's the key, per you - "Once you have the infrastructure established". If you're unwilling to work, how does that infrastructure get established again?
We're in agreement on this one Genki. You took my post out of context, although you're not the type to do it intentionally, I don't think.
Besides, I've seen your idea of punishment for those that anger you
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shit.. I went to school for FREE & graduated with a degree in Graphic Arts just because I applied for grants because I have children I take care of etc..totally free.
even though my anxiety & severe panic attacks keep me away from the world more than Id like, I went to school and graduated, only to become a poor fuckin graphics guy for local media positions etc.. so far anyways..
shit, im so drunk i totally forgot what i was going to say, anyway,
yeah.
but anyway, i work fucking hard keeping the best care for my children while keeping up on the house chores while my wife works as a senior vp in the IT dept. of a major US company.. i keep the household tiptop while my wife makes the bulk of the cash, but I also manage a few websites & newspaper columns.. so its sorta balanced... except she makes 4x as much as I
even though my anxiety & severe panic attacks keep me away from the world more than Id like, I went to school and graduated, only to become a poor fuckin graphics guy for local media positions etc.. so far anyways..
shit, im so drunk i totally forgot what i was going to say, anyway,
yeah.
but anyway, i work fucking hard keeping the best care for my children while keeping up on the house chores while my wife works as a senior vp in the IT dept. of a major US company.. i keep the household tiptop while my wife makes the bulk of the cash, but I also manage a few websites & newspaper columns.. so its sorta balanced... except she makes 4x as much as I
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ganjabliss I got your back on most of your arguments but not all.
You can't be proud of mooching of wellfare just cause of the simple fact that you would give all the capitalist lovers out there an excuse to be on your damn case all day long. And I understand it in a way, but like you wrote its a lot easier to rip on the little guys than on the people that matter, like for example that fucked up goverment shitstem runing USA.
Also it surprises me that all these capitalist get pissed off at people mooching off wellfare yet they gladly bend over for the goverment and their BULLSHIT taxes without a question.
I am a lazy person, fucking hate to work to make another person rich and basically don't like the whole 9 to 5 fiasco.
I found a way to combine something that I love (plants) with making enough $$ to live a complete and full life.
I still have to "work" but its on my own terms and I don't have to deal with all the bullshit that comes attached to having a "good job".
Anyone with enough ingenuity can come up with a plan to earn enough $$$ to live a confortable life via the minimum effort.
You can't be proud of mooching of wellfare just cause of the simple fact that you would give all the capitalist lovers out there an excuse to be on your damn case all day long. And I understand it in a way, but like you wrote its a lot easier to rip on the little guys than on the people that matter, like for example that fucked up goverment shitstem runing USA.
Also it surprises me that all these capitalist get pissed off at people mooching off wellfare yet they gladly bend over for the goverment and their BULLSHIT taxes without a question.
I am a lazy person, fucking hate to work to make another person rich and basically don't like the whole 9 to 5 fiasco.
I found a way to combine something that I love (plants) with making enough $$ to live a complete and full life.
I still have to "work" but its on my own terms and I don't have to deal with all the bullshit that comes attached to having a "good job".
Anyone with enough ingenuity can come up with a plan to earn enough $$$ to live a confortable life via the minimum effort.
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