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i still grow organically for a few reasons ,,,, its cheaper firstly ,,,, i can get a back of chicken manure for about $6 .... its around 30 -40 kg ... now that goes a long way ...
i grow in the ground ,, so i dont want any chemical build ups etc ,, making it hard to grow again next year ,,, want that soil as healthy and happy as it can be ....
im about to take a bigger organic leap actually ,,, now having almost enough poultry to produce enough manure for me ,, i feed them organically ,, so i know their manure is just what the doctor ordered ....
just feeels better going natural and using things that are already there ./....
i grow in the ground ,, so i dont want any chemical build ups etc ,, making it hard to grow again next year ,,, want that soil as healthy and happy as it can be ....
im about to take a bigger organic leap actually ,,, now having almost enough poultry to produce enough manure for me ,, i feed them organically ,, so i know their manure is just what the doctor ordered ....
just feeels better going natural and using things that are already there ./....
Hello all,
Besides, what do you do with all that chem water when you change it?
Pour it on the lawn? On vegitation? Just dump it on the ground? or how about in the sink...or maybe down the gutter into our waterways.
There is a growing (pardon the punn) concern about hydro-grow polution. The high nitrogen has been linked with increase bacterial growth in our natural waterways and is higher concentrations in ground water.
Just a thought.
minds_I
Besides, what do you do with all that chem water when you change it?
Pour it on the lawn? On vegitation? Just dump it on the ground? or how about in the sink...or maybe down the gutter into our waterways.
There is a growing (pardon the punn) concern about hydro-grow polution. The high nitrogen has been linked with increase bacterial growth in our natural waterways and is higher concentrations in ground water.
Just a thought.
minds_I
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Organic weed tastes better, burns better, and gets a better high. Thats just my 2 cents though.
I don't dump any solution anywhere.minds_I said:
I manage my grow so that the plants use it all up.
Farm fertilizer runoff, and runoff from pasture land and chicken farms compose the very vast majority of nitrogen pollution. Not only does it allow for increased bacterial growth, but in some lakes and streams the increase in algae and bacteria has robed oxygen needed by rare species of fish and threatens that whole ecosystem. Very good point, and hydro growers that run to waste definitely contribute to the problem.
Loudcall
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Wickedpete66 I always let my earth juice sit out at least 48Hours just after mixing it. This seems to fix that PH problem for me. And I also add 1TBLS. of Blackstrap Molasses to feed my micro herd. The PH never fails to stay at the right levels. EARTH JUICE products are great I have always used them, but they are on the acidic side. So if you dont want PH demons try letting your mixture sit a couple of days...........
Hope that helps you out.
Hope that helps you out.
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People are one of the few animals that will lay in their own waste. Every piece of land we live on we make it uninhabitable for generations. It has not always been this way. We have way to many toxins on our land and in our bodies. We have screwed up the web of life. Knowing this we wake up every day and screw it up more. Self destruction is one thing but we have figured out how to kill a planet.
The fallout from the WTC (9-11) will kill more people than the explosion. What does that tell us about our toxic lifestyles? when will our biome blow out? Chose your weapon chemical death or organic death neither is natural.
Chose your weapon
People are one of the few animals that will lay in their own waste. Every piece of land we live on we make it uninhabitable for generations. It has not always been this way. We have way to many toxins on our land and in our bodies. We have screwed up the web of life. Knowing this we wake up every day and screw it up more. Self destruction is one thing but we have figured out how to kill a planet.
The fallout from the WTC (9-11) will kill more people than the explosion. What does that tell us about our toxic lifestyles? when will our biome blow out? Chose your weapon chemical death or organic death neither is natural.
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When you're a 16 year old lad that already LOVES weed and your friend shows you a 2 ft cola you want to know how it was done. And you never forget that image.
Wasn't called organics back then - Hahaha! Basically the oystershell, blood and bone, carcasses, stream water and assorted manure approach was known for it's micro-biology and resultant strength and taste. A big hole prepared well in advance, caged off, and finally planted...
I am organics still, but organic hydro. Aquaponics. My fish live in the res and their waste is broken down by bacteria to nutes that plants use - 0 waste.
I find the weed outdoors is tastier in a stiller, dryer season. Indoors the strain and nutrient input determines the flavour - you can repeat for same effect. There is debate as to loss of flavinoids with indoor lighting, I've not noticed.
Wasn't called organics back then - Hahaha! Basically the oystershell, blood and bone, carcasses, stream water and assorted manure approach was known for it's micro-biology and resultant strength and taste. A big hole prepared well in advance, caged off, and finally planted...
I am organics still, but organic hydro. Aquaponics. My fish live in the res and their waste is broken down by bacteria to nutes that plants use - 0 waste.
I find the weed outdoors is tastier in a stiller, dryer season. Indoors the strain and nutrient input determines the flavour - you can repeat for same effect. There is debate as to loss of flavinoids with indoor lighting, I've not noticed.
, being aware and taking responsibility is also a huge plus.
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after 31 yr's outdoors/organic I can say it's one of the good habits I still have........
the rest of it is subjective to the personal preferences of the individual............
ganj on.................
the rest of it is subjective to the personal preferences of the individual............
ganj on.................
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HP lots or things can kill us organic things are toxic also...Just because it is labelled organic by no means implies safety.
In the buffalo national river valley in Arkansas there have been forest cleared for pastureland. All of the runoff from the valley ends up in that small mountain river. The runoff form these pastures contains very high levels of nitrogen from the cow manure. The high nitrogen has allowed algae and mosses and bacteria to cause reduced the levels of oxygen in the cold mountain river, which used to be very high. The reduced oxygen levels have killed out some fish species which formerly thrived.HeadyPete said:
Cow manure is organic, but when it gets where it shouldn't be... causes death to an ecosystem.
Loudcall
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Yes it is up to us to save this planet. The good lord has made us stewards over it all. So we have that obligation to look over it. And that's why I'm very conscientous about recycling my garden waste. Every one that grows need to look into composting thier garden waste. And what I mean by garden waste is, your runoff water, and your soil. It's easier than the actual growing that we do. Composting also will save you money that would otherwise be spent on pricey ferts.
floppyfundanglr
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this is exactly why we should go back to being nomads. Imagine that, our worlds populations having to search for food by foot. Thatd be a cluster **** of fun.
peace
peace
EasyBakeIndica
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K+ to this thread for invigorating organics!
Somewhere on these boards is a post of mine where I took the same beans and grew some in soil and some in buckets. I myself am a true blue Biotanicare man so to say I'm totally organic would be like saying a little old lady only drove it to church on Sunday's.
The yields as expected were laughable: the buckets tripled the soil took 2/3 the time BUT the main difference imo is that the HYDRO smoke had no soul. I smoked both kinds with different folks and few could tell the difference but there is a difference none the less.
Tell ya what I got some Casey Jones and some G13xEcsd in veg in soil. I plan if they can get ready in time to move a few to some buckets and will if the group will allow do it again for old time sake?
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Mr.Wags
The yields as expected were laughable: the buckets tripled the soil took 2/3 the time BUT the main difference imo is that the HYDRO smoke had no soul. I smoked both kinds with different folks and few could tell the difference but there is a difference none the less.
Tell ya what I got some Casey Jones and some G13xEcsd in veg in soil. I plan if they can get ready in time to move a few to some buckets and will if the group will allow do it again for old time sake?
My Penny
Mr.Wags
SensimillaWolf
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floppyfundanglr said:
How long do you guys think it will be until this happens, if it happens? And how?
I grow organic because I've never heard a hydro grower said theirs was better than organic, just equal, while I've heard many an organic grower say theirs was better than hydro. I figured that was the best start for high quality. I know a lot more now but haven't tried synthetics. Except my first, a miracle grow, which was not a miracle at all.
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