Wholesale pot prices plummet. Now there starting to get better
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Didn't you guys get smoked by mold couple years ago? When that happens prices should go up, if it didn't then something is seriuosly wrong. Pest, water,power cost, and plant limits are so bad here in Cali that the broker & dispensary bullshit is coming to an end.
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Ha. I wish. I've seen so much beautiful outdoor going for about half that price. Sorry to say thats the reality I've seen in norcal.14 to 17 is the high end of what I've been seeing top shelf outdoor og and sours go for.
17 outdoor cali is a great price. 17 for fake sour d in Cali even better, it's not the real deal, it's also that Happy Frog/ocean forest tea stuff grown buy guys who don't have a clue. You saying peeps in the Canada thread are misinformed.
@allendog you seem to make a lot of assumptions. Where do you figure the guys in nor cal don't have the real deal sour diesel. I know some breed down the flower time like a nice pheno of sour from so hum that finished in 8 weeks but lost a little taste of fuel.
I don't think the end user could tell the difference if they tried.
I don't think the end user could tell the difference if they tried.
Most don't have it! By looking @ the gardens & by seeing what's running thru brokers. Totally agree that present consumers have no clue, but what happens if the real deal comes main stream? What happens when the real strain get worked on by real Botanist?
Again your are proving my point. Is the consumer getting what they are expecting from so hums Geno's? How is it a new pheno?(not saying it's not, just wondering) does the smoker want to $$$ for less taste. Are you the only one that can tell the difference? Quality continues to down hill here's a great example of why.
@allendawg no is getting fooled by the genetics. The guys are proud to have a strain that gives you mostly sour d. Smell taste and high with a shorter flower and a good yield.
It was breed with one of rez's lines and the clone only.
It was breed with one of rez's lines and the clone only.
I keep tellin my boy that if he wants me to run the sour, and run it right(11wks+) it's gonna be 36+...they want it...just gotta get the ecsd back in the lineup first hahaha
^ this right here.
Running a sativa dominant hybrid right now which goes 77+ days. The market doesn't seem to want to differentiate much between strains and the effort/time put forth to grow such genetics. I've got an entire month more of electricity & labor into this garden...as well as limiting the number of gardens capable in a year out of the same location.. it should certainly carry a higher ticket.
Not from CA, but I like the insight this thread has given me. My "all to one guy" broker seems to be trying to push the prices lower and lower in response to flooding import work. While I respect his position as a broker, I'm getting a few point higher then the outdoor stuff and it's getting pretty frustrating, borderline insulting. Apples & Oranges, but the import crap without fail gets pulled out every time to show me what coming in at $X.
I guess it's time to grab some of those gamma lids and bovedas in an attempt to work it between crops for a higher ticket. That or grow more; 50 day nothing specials that turnover quick. No incentive to grow longer finishers except the 1-off plant for the personal stash.
Anyone else have any of these smaller niche avenues developing as consumers develop a better eye for quality flowers? Still have friends collecting full ticket in our state (4k) by selling 1k 1/4s, but I don't seem to know enough people to accomplish this before my next cycle comes down. Seems I'm stuck between unloading in full to a broker for 25 (7-20 units at a time) or selling ounces here and there which ultimately is too slow to accomplish much. All who ya know I guess.
Not trying to complain too much as I see the writing on the wall. Just experiencing it a bit earlier then most in my region due to unloading to the same players shopping in CA markets.
Running a sativa dominant hybrid right now which goes 77+ days. The market doesn't seem to want to differentiate much between strains and the effort/time put forth to grow such genetics. I've got an entire month more of electricity & labor into this garden...as well as limiting the number of gardens capable in a year out of the same location.. it should certainly carry a higher ticket.
Not from CA, but I like the insight this thread has given me. My "all to one guy" broker seems to be trying to push the prices lower and lower in response to flooding import work. While I respect his position as a broker, I'm getting a few point higher then the outdoor stuff and it's getting pretty frustrating, borderline insulting. Apples & Oranges, but the import crap without fail gets pulled out every time to show me what coming in at $X.
I guess it's time to grab some of those gamma lids and bovedas in an attempt to work it between crops for a higher ticket. That or grow more; 50 day nothing specials that turnover quick. No incentive to grow longer finishers except the 1-off plant for the personal stash.
Anyone else have any of these smaller niche avenues developing as consumers develop a better eye for quality flowers? Still have friends collecting full ticket in our state (4k) by selling 1k 1/4s, but I don't seem to know enough people to accomplish this before my next cycle comes down. Seems I'm stuck between unloading in full to a broker for 25 (7-20 units at a time) or selling ounces here and there which ultimately is too slow to accomplish much. All who ya know I guess.
Not trying to complain too much as I see the writing on the wall. Just experiencing it a bit earlier then most in my region due to unloading to the same players shopping in CA markets.
Not seeking attention at all, just here to clear up the bullshit. my iPad cuts in & out. I'll be gone in a couple of months. I'll be back in 2016 or 2017 under a new handle, new location, new computer, like always. Never the same folks every time I come back, Gee I wonder what happened to those folks! lol
The smokers want it but the growers empower the brokers & dispensary's in a real market this won't happen. The true talent is the grower not the broker, growers are brainwashed!
Now you're on to something
I don't want peeps to get the impression that I think all breeders are terrible. Solid beans still need a solid grower. Breeders are the architect they design the car, nutrient ,pesticide cos,soil, equip etc...are the pit crew, the grower is the driver. Usually the driver has the rarest skill set & it's the driver who puts his life on the line, that's why the driver should get all the glory! Can't win the race without each other. MJ market got it all mixed up, nothing but accidents waiting to happen! Lol
it's in a growers best interest to meet the demand of the buyer regardless of whether they even like the shit or not...sure some smokers would like to have some sour again, but until it's worth it on the growers end that's not going to happen...similar in a sense to cookies, there is a demand for cookies, yet many growers like myself will continue to not run cookies because it hurts the bottom line...
the only way to actually solve this would be to place an end value on the output of a light- basically every light will cost the buyer 5-6k regardless of the strain grown under it with certain exceptions for longer flowering varieties...that would be great, but damn unlikely to ever happen
the only way to actually solve this would be to place an end value on the output of a light- basically every light will cost the buyer 5-6k regardless of the strain grown under it with certain exceptions for longer flowering varieties...that would be great, but damn unlikely to ever happen
I disagree the way to handle this is to rely on the grower to set the price, period!
It's up to the grower to figure out how to market their products to fetch a higher price to get away from the brokers. Fuck the brokers. To them weed is weed and it's all about the low price so they can make maximum profit.
It's all about the end customer. It's not that difficult to move 30 pound crops over a 10 week period. That's only 3 pounds per week. You'll make double the profit so in reality you only have to move half the crop to get what the broker would have low balled you. The rest is extra.
Like others have said, branding is key to high prices and staying ahead of the game. Clone selection is also key. It's not that difficult. If you can't get repeat business from retail, your product is not good enough. You shouldn't have to work hard to move your product. If your product is right, it moves itself. Find your niche market and figure out how to make your product look better than everyone else's. If your product can't move itself, maybe it's time to give up growing.
It's all about the end customer. It's not that difficult to move 30 pound crops over a 10 week period. That's only 3 pounds per week. You'll make double the profit so in reality you only have to move half the crop to get what the broker would have low balled you. The rest is extra.
Like others have said, branding is key to high prices and staying ahead of the game. Clone selection is also key. It's not that difficult. If you can't get repeat business from retail, your product is not good enough. You shouldn't have to work hard to move your product. If your product is right, it moves itself. Find your niche market and figure out how to make your product look better than everyone else's. If your product can't move itself, maybe it's time to give up growing.
This must be Blue Berry's new handle.
