War

[Hiddenjems]

My guess is the best thing that can happen (not actually) is that our troops get hit by Iran. Then we can funnel trillions of American tax dollars to defense contractors defending Israel and avenging our troops in “iran, Iraq part 2”……

 

[RobFromTX]

My guess is the best thing that can happen (not actually) is that our troops get hit by Iran. Then we can funnel trillions of American tax dollars to defense contractors defending Israel and avenging our troops in “iran, Iraq part 2”……

 

[Cannavore]

 

[moose eater]

uneducated presumptuousness. Now that should be the thread title

Factually speaking, your posts have been shown to be exactly that, numerous times over Rob. No one has made you post incredibly daft and misguided statements about things you either don't know much about or are so conditioned that you're incapable of seeing them or 'knowing' them when they're staring you in the face.

The thread has lots of factual statements, from a wide variety of sources, including by me. Your posts frequently have 'ignorant' and 'presumptuous' written all over them in something more bold than invisible ink.

Shall I pick a few as examples for you? Or are you more like the knight on the bridge in Monty Python's 'In Search of the Holy Grail'?

By the way, there are lots of people I disagree with who aren't on ignore. It takes a special type of ignorance, absence of self-awareness, disingenuousness, hypocrisy or buffoonery to achieve the ignore function with me.

 

[moose eater]

 

[RobFromTX]

Factually speaking, your posts have been shown to be exactly that, numerous times over Rob. No one has made you post incredibly daft and misguided statements about things you either don't know much about or are so conditioned that you're incapable of seeing them or 'knowing' them when they're staring you in the face.

The thread has lots of factual statements, from a wide variety of sources, including by me. Your posts frequently have 'ignorant' and 'presumptuous' written all over them in something more bold than invisible ink.

Shall I pick a few as examples for you? Or are you more like the knight on the bridge in Monty Python's 'In Search of the Holy Grail'?

By the way, there are lots of people I disagree with who aren't on ignore. It takes a special type of ignorance, absence of self-awareness, disingenuousness, hypocrisy or buffoonery to achieve the ignore function with me.

I dont know why youre busting balls chief. I didnt call you ass eater, right did

And sorry im not misguided because I dont see this conflict in black and white. Theres a huge grey area

 

[Cannavore]

cool

 

[JKD]

After ordering the assassination of Sinwar and Nasrallah, Netanyahu shocked and outraged by assassination attempt.

@RobFromTX - I’m pretty sure the funny pictures thread makes you immune from anyone’s ignore list.

 

[moose eater]

I dont know why youre busting balls chief. I didnt call you ass eater, right did

And sorry im not misguided because I dont see this conflict in black and white. Theres a huge grey area

Here's some clariofication for your grayness; even the uS has acknowledged that the west Bank settlements aer iletgal. Over 140 countries at the UN have stated that Palestine is its own nation. Israel has been stealing land and committing attrocities with impunity in Gaza for 76 yeasr. The US continues to oprotect Bibi and Israel from their comeuppance at the UN via the unuiolateral veto aurthority, and the war crimes by Israel have been mounting for that same 76 years.

An occupying force has no right to self-defense under the law, but the occupied do.

Israel has thwarted numerous efforts toward peace talks and has stated they want to take Gaza; more land theft, murder and rape. Meanwhile they and the US propaganda machinery claims it is Hamas that has avoided peace talks.

Israel claims to be acting in response to Iran's strikes, but Iran's strikes were specifically in response to Israel illegally blowing up a consulate, illegal occupation of Gaza and the West Bank (which the UN has ruled on) and assassinating individuals. Blind to their own crimes? Like the US?

US law, international law, and the treaties the US entered into voluntarily all state that for any nation to continue arming those engaged in war crimes and violations of human rights makes them complicit to those crimes and is illegal.

That's all pretty much black and white.' Period. If you say not, show me.

Right's chronically intoxicated, FOX-News-talking-points-spewing has been on ignore for quite some time.

He's an ass and I have no time to waste on such derelict fools filled with misinformation. In fact, having lived in Canada, I have had suspicions that he's BARELY Canadian, as he sounds much more like those he currently resides near and works with; redneck, entitled, and misinformed Texans and Arizonans. His rep here among those who've been here for a long time speaks for itself.

But it was you, Rob, who asks why I'm busting chops, or however you put it, after you open up a post stating that you're taking a poke at me, thus making you astoundingly American-qualified at heart, chronically taking shots at others, then playing the victim when called out for it. You're not Israeli, are you? Because that's their move historically speaking. As well as the US move at the Gulf of Tonkin and numerous other places. Such manipulative, cowardly, blindered bullshit goes back a long way for some countries and individuals, though usually covered up for by the blinders of nationalism. Either way, it's behavior that lacks in honesty or integrity.

Any other points you'd like to discuss?

 

[moose eater]

After ordering the assassination of Sinwar and Nasrallah, Netanyahu shocked and outraged by assassination attempt.
@RobFromTX - I’m pretty sure the funny pictures thread makes you immune from anyone’s ignore list.

Blowing up an off-limits-to-aggression consulate didn't help Bibi's case much.

Yes, I got giddy when I read the missile had hit Bibi's home, only to be saddened or disappointed that he and his wife weren't home at the time... like, IN that corner of the house, even.

Edit: Maybe someone needs to slyly dart the bastard with a tracker of sorts? Maybe one of those Russian KGB umbrellas, either with the poison tip or with said tracker?

 

[moose eater]

Oh, and to add to the facts that are black and white as referenced by Rob, the ICJ has effectively ruled that Israel is a criminal state. There is that, of course. And it seems pretty black and white to me.

 

[moose eater]

Looks like someone inside the illegal death machinery is upset with the status quo. Too fucking bad, eh?

 

[RobFromTX]

But it was you, Rob, who asks why I'm busting chops, or however you put it, after you open up a post stating that you're taking a poke at me, thus making you astoundingly American-qualified at heart, chronically taking shots at others, then playing the victim when called out for it. You're not Israeli, are you? Because that's their move historically speaking. As well as the US move at the Gulf of Tonkin and numerous other places. Such manipulative, cowardly, blindered bullshit goes back a long way for some countries and individuals, though usually covered up for by the blinders of nationalism. Either way, it's behavior that lacks in honesty or integrity.

Any other points you'd like to discuss?

Lol im a german american, about as non-jewish as you can get, but even I recognize that there are plenty of innocent people living in Israel that dont deserve to have rockets launched at them...almost daily....for the past 15 years. Put your preference where you want to but I have hard time believing "the zionists" launched this conflict when they invaded 5 settlements on Oct.7th to kill a bunch of other zionists.

Yeah yeah occupied land. But two wrongs don't make a right and all that shit. In a better world we'd stop funding foreign wars and spend our tax dollars more consciously, like giving wang doodle transplants to gender confused teenagers hacked up on prozac

 

[Chi13]

Didn't mean to skip over your post hombre but I support all those things. I also support resistance to occupation and the right to self determination which the Palestinians lack. I want them to hold their own elections and whatnot and not live inside of a blockade.


I wouldn't ask you to side with anything lol you have your own choice of course and i'm not necessarily siding with hamas either. there's no other choice for palestinians but resistance through hamas. all other avenues have been blocked. they literally bombed the hamas negotiator then Israel and the US and much of the western media responded by gaslighting, asking why won't Hamas come to the table. This past year has been really disgusting.


I agree but I also support freedom and autonomy overall which includes freedom from occupation

Resistance to occupation is a noble cause. Deliberately targeting civilians as a response is not.

When Hamas came to power they eliminated their opposition and disarmed the population. There have been no elections since. You aren't going to get elections with Hamas in power. Prior to October 7 Hamas's popularity and support was low. Do you really think the average Gazan citizen would have wanted Hamas to commit their acts on Oct 7?

I would also love the Palestinians to have the right to self determination and have elections. Not going to happen with Hamas in charge.

 

[RobFromTX]

Yeah i imagine the majority of palestinians are having some serious buyers remorse. Im sure hamas thought that Israel would just call in a few airstrikes and then negotiate a hostage-for-prisoner release within the first week and here things are with no end in sight. That nutjob Bibi needs to go but you have to be an idiot to live in gaza and still want hamas running the show and obviously there's no shortage of them

 

[Brother Nature]

All is not lost guys, the right and left in the us have finally found some common ground in their support for the murdering of Arabs.

 

[JKD]

All is not lost guys, the right and left in the us have finally found some common ground in their support for the murdering of Arabs.

Every cloud…

What a dishearteningly accurate observation.

 

[JKD]

Yeah i imagine the majority of palestinians are having some serious buyers remorse. Im sure hamas thought that Israel would just call in a few airstrikes and then negotiate a hostage-for-prisoner release within the first week and here things are with no end in sight. That nutjob Bibi needs to go but you have to be an idiot to live in gaza and still want hamas running the show and obviously there's no shortage of them

I think Hamas wanted Israel to grossly overreact, lose international support, and cause a wider conflict.

 

[moose eater]

"But wait!! There's more!!"

After Israel Killed Hamas Leader, D.C. Pushes to Hand Palestine to Saudi Arabia

Bent on a security pact with Saudi Arabia, Congress and the Biden administration see their chance in the death of Hamas leader Sinwar.

theintercept.com

Not that the US has a history of playing global chess and fucking the place up or anything.

And remember, it was primarily Saudis on those aircraft on 9/11, funded in part by Saudi Royal Family money.

 

[JKD]

When you criticised the US killing civilians in conflicts you were called anti-American, not Christianophobic. Don’t know why this is different.

Also don’t know why no one realises you’re actually just anti-nation states using their military to murder civilians.