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Whenever I need comedy I come back to this show.



They made a parody of this, they changed around the words to make it more ridiculous. Only they had to stop doing it because it was too confusing. You couldn't tell the difference between the parody and the real thing.
 

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Ukraine: Who shot down 7 Ukrainian MiG-29s in one day? The British are sure it is a Su-57​

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by Alexander Sitnikov

Unlike the American F-35, the Russian 5th generation fighter has become invisible to radar.

The summary of the Russian Defense Ministry on the course of the special military operation (for the period from October 14 to 20, 2023) provides sensational information: “Thanks to the effective actions of combat aircraft and air defense units, 12 aircraft were destroyed over the past week, including: 10 Mig-29 and two Su-25 attack aircraft, as well as two Mi-8 helicopters of the Ukrainian Air Force. In the last 24 hours alone, seven Ukrainian Mig-29 aircraft were shot down by air defense systems».

Such high losses for the Ukrainian defense forces can only be explained by the use of a new type of weapon, Telegram believes. Plus, something Bandera supporters and their Yankee conservatives know nothing about.

According to public data, our military aviation had 10 Su-57s at the beginning of the year, and this year the fleet should be replenished with 10-14 additional aircraft, endowed with know-how that the enemy cannot what to guess.

Recall that at the end of March, Ruselectronics (part of the state company Rostec) announced the development of a new radio-absorbing material that can seriously increase the capabilities of Russian aircraft to evade radars and is capable of absorbing up to 'to 95% of radar waves.

«The new radar-absorbing material, if successful, could give the Su-57 a significant advantage, complementing the fighter's already strong focus on low operating costs and the ability to operate with low logistics costs . It is still unclear when the new material can be considered ready for use on military aircraft», commented the experts of Military Watch about this news.

According to them, the new product will make the Felon the world's only stealth aircraft. The use of the Su-57 against the Ukrainian defense forces, which rely on data from American AWACS patrolling 24/24 in Poland and Romania, is therefore logical, even necessary.

If we remember what Ignat said about the alleged invulnerability of the “ghosts of Kiev” during the confrontation with the Russian Aerospace Forces last summer, then, according to him, Russian aircraft cannot miss to be noticed by NATO equipment, both on the ground and in flight. They say that as soon as the Su-34/35 take off from the airfield, Ukrainian air defense is already following their flights.

The fact that Bandera's SEVEN Mig-29s, carrying JDAM guided bombs, were destroyed in one day directly indicates that with a very high probability they were shot down during an air battle. As a rule, these stand-off bombing aircraft do not enter the zone of our front-line air defense and take off at a height for launch, and then move to ultra-low altitudes, which allows them to hide from our radars.

Most likely, they were destroyed from an area covered by independent anti-aircraft gunners. Russian Su-34/35s do not fly there. Thus, the conclusion is obvious: it was a Su-57. But if earlier he chased the “ghosts of kyiv” from afar, this time, apparently, he was nearby.

By the way, since October 2022, reports began to appear that the Su-27 and, possibly, the Su-24 of the Ukrainian Air Force were shot down at a distance of 217 km by an R- missile 37M fired from the Belgorod region. British intelligence suggested that it may be the “Felon”, after which the corresponding conclusions were made.

A report from the Kingdom's Ministry of Defense (January 2023) indicated that Su-57 fighters launched long-range air-to-ground or air-to-air missiles at Ukraine. And this would have constituted the first Western confirmation that the Felon actually participated in combat operations,”at least since June 2022».

It also states: “The Su-57 fighters used Russia's longest-range air-to-air missile, the R-37M, which has a maximum engagement range of 400 km and is the only known air-to-air missile, outside of China, capable of threatening maneuver targets at a range greater than 200 km».

Nevertheless, the British did not see this as a disaster, because at that time the Su-57 was an inconspicuous aircraft, which, at the very least, was supposed to be visible to the best NATO radars. For example, Moscow, understanding this, will not risk sending the “Felon” into the zone of responsibility of independent air defense. Well, the “ghosts of kyiv” just need to follow some recommendations.

By the way, on October 20, fighter jets of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a Ukrainian Su-24 aircraft near the city of Odessa, which planned to strike Crimea with a Storm Shadow missile. This version is supported by information that a British Boeing RC-135 W Rivet Joint radio reconnaissance aircraft, accompanied by two Eurofighter Typhoon fighters, flew 150 km south of Sevastopol. This usually happens before the next British cruise missile launch. But not this time. If the Su 34/35 had taken off to intercept it, the British would have definitely warned the Ukrainian pilot.

source: The People's Cause
 

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How British colonialism killed 100 million Indians in 40 years​

Between 1880 to 1920, British colonial policies in India claimed more lives than all famines in the Soviet Union, Maoist China and North Korea combined.

By Dylan Sullivan
Adjunct Fellow in the School of Social Sciences, Macquarie University
and Jason Hickel
Professor at the Institute for Environmental Science and Technology (ICTA-UAB) and Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts

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Our research finds that Britain’s exploitative policies were associated with approximately 100 million excess deaths during the 1881-1920 period, write Sullivan and Hickel[British Raj(1904-1906)/Wikimedia Commons]
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mean mr.mustard

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Indeed without France no U.S check your little baby history so we're responsible of the worst monster in history. And one century later the monster came and bombed and killing tens of thousands of french civilians. Glory to Russia for winning the WW2.

It was British and US troops who saved France in WW2.

The USA dropped the bomb, ending WW2.

There's your little baby history.
 

Roms

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On Monday morning, there were more than 5,000 victims and 1,500 missing.
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The war, the separation of the world, or the end of an Empire?​

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The American "Straussians," the Ukrainian "integral nationalists," the Israeli "revisionist Zionists" and the Japanese "militarists" are calling for a generalized war. They are alone and they are not mass movements. No state has yet committed itself to this course.

Germany with 100 billion euros and Poland with much less money are rearming massively. But neither of them seems eager to take on Russia.

Australia and Japan are also investing in armaments, but neither of them has an autonomous army.

The United States is no longer able to replenish its military and is no longer able to create new weapons. They are content to reproduce the weapons of the 1980s in an assembly line fashion. However, they maintain their nuclear weapons.

Russia has already modernized its armies and is organizing itself to renew the ammunition it uses in Ukraine and to mass produce its new weapons, which no one can compete with. China, for its part, is rearming to control the Far East and, in the long term, to protect its trade routes. India thinks of itself as a maritime power.

It is therefore difficult to see who would and could start a World War.

Contrary to their speeches, French leaders are not at all preparing for a high-intensity war [1]. The military programming law, established for ten years, plans to build a nuclear aircraft carrier, but reduces the size of the army. It is a question of giving ourselves the means of projection, but not of defending our territory. Paris continues to reason as a colonial power while the world is becoming multipolar. It is a classic: the generals prepare for the previous war and ignore the reality of tomorrow.

The European Union is implementing its "Strategic Compass". The Commission coordinates the military investments of its member states. In practice, they all play the game, but pursue different goals. The Commission, on the other hand, is trying to take control of decisions on the financing of armies, which until now have depended on their national parliaments. This would make it possible to build an empire, but not to declare a generalized war.
Clearly everyone is playing a game, but apart from Russia and China, none is preparing for a high-intensity war. Rather, we are witnessing a redistribution of the cards. This month, Washington is sending Liz Rosenberg and Brian Nelson, two specialists in unilateral coercive measures [2], to Europe with the mission of forcing the Allies to comply. In the words of former President George Bush Jr. during the war "against terrorism": "Whoever is not with us is against us".

Liz Rosenberg is efficient and unscrupulous. She is the one who brought the Syrian economy to its knees, condemning millions of people to poverty because they dared to resist and defeat the Empire’s surrogates.

The Hollywood western discourse a la George Bush Jr. of good guys and bad guys has failed with Türkiye, which has already experienced the 2016 coup attempt and the 2023 earthquake. Ankara knows that it has nothing good to expect from Washington and is already looking to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Yet the same discourse should succeed with the Europeans, who remain fascinated by the power of the United States. Of course this power is in decline, but so are the Europeans. No one has learned any lessons from the sabotage of the Russian-German-French-Dutch gas pipelines, North Stream. Not only did the victims take the blame without saying anything, but they are about to receive further punishment for crimes they did not commit.

The world should therefore be divided into two blocs, on the one hand the US hyperpower and its vassals, on the other the multipolar world. In terms of the number of states, this should be half and half, but in terms of population, only 13% for the Western bloc against 87% for the multipolar world.

The international institutions can no longer function. They should either fall into lethargy or be dissolved. The first examples that come to mind are the effective exit of Russia from the Council of Europe and the empty seats of Western Europeans in the Arctic Council during the year of the Russian presidency. Other institutions are no longer relevant, such as the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), which was supposed to organize East-West dialogue. Only the attachment of Russia and China to the United Nations should preserve them in the short term, as the United States is already thinking of transforming the Organization into a structure reserved exclusively for the Allied Nations.

The Western bloc should also reorganize itself. Until now, the European continent was dominated economically by Germany. In order to be certain that Germany would never get closer to Russia, the United States wanted Berlin to be content with the western part of the continent and leave the center in the hands of Warsaw. So Germany and Poland armed themselves to impose themselves in their respective zones of influence, but when the American star faded, they would fight against each other.

When the Soviet Empire fell, it abandoned its allies and vassals. Having seen its inability to solve the problems, the USSR first stopped supporting Cuba economically, then dropped its vassals of the Warsaw Pact, and finally collapsed on itself. The same process is beginning today.
The first U.S. Gulf War, the 9/11 attacks and their host of wars in the broader Middle East, the expansion of Nato and the Ukrainian conflict will have offered only three decades of survival to the American Empire. It was backed by its former Soviet rival. It has lost its raison d’être with its dissolution. It is time for it to disappear too.
 

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Some of the 1400 Zionist nationals killed during the Palestinian offensive were killed by their own army​


Zionist propaganda would have us believe that Palestinian fighters killed some 1400 Zionist civilians in cold blood.

Not only must we reject as an untruth the thesis according to which these 1400 people were civilians but the information, admittedly fragmentary, available shows that a certain number of the Zionist nationals were killed by their own army acting according to the "Hannibal directive".

Mounadil al Djazaïri

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by Anonymous contributor

Editor's note: The author of this article asked that his name not be published, fearing for his personal safety due to intensifying fascist persecution of critical voices in Israel.

Many details of what happened on October 7 remain shrouded in mystery, including how the 1400 dead Israelis were killed. More and more information indicates that the Israeli army is responsible for the deaths of civilians and soldiers.

Since October 7, the events of that day have been shrouded in mystery. Not only are there questions about the enormous failure of the Israeli intelligence apparatus to anticipate what was happening in the tightly besieged Gaza Strip or the rapid collapse of their billion-dollar "Maginot Line", but also on the details of what really happened in the military bases and surrounding colonies. From the Gaza Strip. We know that, according to commonly accepted estimates, 1400 Israelis were killed on October 7 and in the days that followed, but we do not yet know the details of these deaths.

Some reports are starting to emerge, including documents on the killing of Israelis by Palestinian fighters, but a growing number of reports indicate that the Israeli military is also responsible for the deaths of Israeli civilians and soldiers on October 7 and the following days.

The Hannibal Directive in action?

On Friday October 20, Haaretz has published a lengthy article by its senior military analyst, Amos Harel, describing Israel's failure to prepare for the Hamas attacks of October 7. He presents to his readers “Gaza Division Commander Brigadier General Avi Rosenfeld", whom he met a few weeks before the war, and who told him that "Things aren't going to get better, at some point they're going to get worse».

He goes on to describe what happened on October 7:

«The Coordination and Liaison Office was attacked on October 7 along with all outposts along the division line. A large Hamas force seized the adjacent Erez crossing, which was closed for the Simchat Torah holiday. From there, in a few minutes and without resistance, they [the Hamas militiamen] advanced into the military base, killing and kidnapping the soldiers of the Civil Administration, although a few of them managed to return fire before 'be hit… General Rosenfeld holed up in the division's underground war room with a handful of soldiers, men and women, desperately trying to save and organize the attacked sector. Many soldiers, mostly non-combatants, were killed or wounded outside. The division was forced to request an airstrike against the base itself in order to repel the terrorists».

This dry and glowing description of the high-ranking officer hiding with a few soldiers in an underground bunker and ordering an aerial bombardment of "the base" where his soldiers were fighting against Hamas militants, perhaps wounded and perhaps taken prisoner, has many to see, to say about the Israeli psyche in these bloody times.

This reminds me of the events of August 1, 2014, during the most violent Israeli campaign against Gaza to date. On August 1, there was a ceasefire, but an Israeli unit launched a provocation which resulted in the capture of one of its soldiers by Palestinian militants. The Israeli response had been devastating, clearly designed to ensure that the soldier Hadar Goldin would be killed with as many Palestinians as possible. According to investigations carried out by Amnesty International and UN, cited in Wikipedia, who are "massive Israeli bombardment killed between 135 and 200 Palestinian civilians, including 75 children, in the three hours after the alleged capture of the only Israeli soldier».

These events are not accidental local eruptions of the "Samsonian" desire to die (or let one's soldiers die) with one's enemies. This is a well-documented official policy of the Israeli military, at least since 1986, known as "Hannibal Directive”, “Hannibal Code” or “Hannibal Doctrine”.

This approach may not have been limited to General Rosenfeld's order to bomb his own soldiers. It will be years before we can (or cannot) have a complete picture of what happened on October 7 and the following days. But in addition to the military deaths, there are also some details regarding the Israeli role in the deaths of Israeli civilians that can already be found amid the massive flow of propaganda surrounding the day's events.

Deaths of Kibbutz Be'eri

Electronic Intifada published a long interview by Yasmin Porat, describing how she was held hostage by Palestinian militants on Kibbutz Be'eri. According to her account, the kidnappers treated her and the other hostages, “humanly", believing that they would be allowed to retreat safely to Gaza thanks to the protection of Israeli captives. However, when Israeli soldiers arrived, “they eliminated everyone, including the hostages. There was very, very intense crossfire».




His testimony is complemented by that of Israeli soldiers who described how the Israeli army fired tank shells at buildings where the militants and their hostages were hiding.

On October 11, Quique Kierszenbaum reported in The Guardian his visit to Kibbutz Be'eri, a visit organized by the Israeli army's propaganda unit. He writes :

«Building after building was destroyed, whether in the Hamas assault or in the fighting that followed, nearby trees were broken and walls were reduced to concrete ruins from which the tanks Israelis destroyed Hamas militants where they were hiding. The floors collapsed. Roof beams were tangled and exposed like rib cages».

In another article published in Haaretz in Hebrew (it does not appear to be available in English) on October 11, probably following the same military-guided public relations tour, Nir Hasson and Eden Solomon interviewed “Erez, deputy commander of a reserve armored battalion". He described how he and his tank unit “fought inside the kibbutz, house by house, with tanks". "We had no choiceHe concludes.

More recently, Nir Hasson returned to Beeri and interviewed a local resident named Tuval, who was lucky to be away from the kibbutz at the time of the attack but whose partner was killed. In Articlede Haaretz of October 20, Hasson reports:

«His voice trembles when he thinks of his companion, who was then besieged in his refuge. According to him, it was only on Monday evening and only after commanders on the ground made difficult decisions - including bombing houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists as well as the hostages - that The IDF completed the capture of the kibbutz. The price to pay was terrible: at least 112 residents of Be'eri were killed. Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. More bodies are believed to still lie in the rubble».

This quote is important for several reasons; The first is because it adds to the understood timeline of events. This testimony would seem to indicate that many Israeli captives were still alive on Monday October 9, two full days after the events of Saturday October 7. Although it might be understandable that captives were killed in the intense crossfire of an initial Israeli bombardment, in response to the attack on the 7th, this account seems to indicate that the decision to attack the kibbutz and all those who were there was taken as a clear military calculation.

It is clear that Palestinian militants were hiding in these buildings with their Israeli captives as Israeli soldiers fought their way inside with huge tank shells and hand-to-hand combat. It is worth investigating who caused most of the death and destruction that took place. This is particularly important as these deaths are now being used to justify the destruction of Gaza and the massacre of thousands of civilians.

Implications for Israeli captives in Gaza

All this is not history or just the past. There are implications for the next stage of the war, which could be even bloodier. A central element of the conflict is now the fate of more than two hundred Israeli captives, soldiers and civilians.

For the Palestinians, this is a historic opportunity to free their longtime activists from what they call "the strongholds of occupation." Even though Palestinians know that the liberation of their land is still a distant dream, the release of their prisoners through a prisoner exchange is the most precious victory they can fight for. However, Israel, as it has repeatedly proven in the past and as recent events seem to indicate, may be willing to put the lives of its soldiers and citizens at risk rather than witness the joy of freedom celebrated on both sides of the border.

source: Mondoweiss via Mounadil al Djazaïri
 

GOT_BUD?

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Yeah. It's looking more and more if they can get the hostages freed Israel has no reason for the ground war.

They can just continue to bomb them from afar with impunity.
 

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