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Hundreds of NATO troops were housed in Kramatorskshotel, manning air defenses and artillery…..all may well be dead​

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Kramatorsk: Pizzaria Scam as Russians Destroy Hotel Housing US/UK Special Forces Advisors/Contractors and Ukainian Whores - Many US/NATO Dead - THE INTEL DROP

Kramatorsk: Pizzaria Scam as Russians Destroy Hotel Housing US/UK Special Forces Advisors/Contractors and Ukainian Whores - Many US/NATO Dead
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Kramatorsk: Russians destroy hotel housing US/British special forces​



 
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One more step towards the unification of Russia and China (or ChinUssie)​

by Eric Zuesse

On June 8, the Russian channel RT News as "Air drills between Russia and China worry US regional allies (video)reporting (for the first time, to my knowledge) on a joint military exercise between China and Russia, during which the two countries are preparing to retaliate as a team to a possible aggression by the United States and its allies in their region of the world, presumably in response to a military effort by the United States to take Taiwan. Perhaps if the United States continues to arm and train the increasingly separatist government of what is effectively Taiwan Province of China, which then announces its "independence" from China, to become no no longer such a government but a vassal or “ally” of the United States, the United States and its gang invading China will be at war with both China and Russia – and not ONLY China. America's own CSIS war game specialists etc. have concluded that even China alone would likely win against the American tape, but if Russia participated alongside China in defending it against American aggression, the United States would Would the United States go to nuclear war against China and Russia in order to “win” a decimated Taiwan as another “ally” of the United States? In this military conflict, the entire planet would certainly be destroyed, but the individuals who control the United States have so far indicated that they will stop at nothing to make all countries of the world "allies" of the United States. , THEIR empire.

Russia and China are moving towards a unified military command system in which the two independent countries, China and Russia, will form a military alliance, if the US NATO military alliance (which was formed against Russia in 1949 and which refused to disband when Russia terminated its mirror Warsaw Pact military alliance in response in 1991) becomes active or supplemented against China as well. The United States and its NATO vassal countries have refused to honor repeated assurances that they had given to Gorbachev, namely that NATO would not extend to the Russian border; and now the United States is giving increasingly strong indications that it will not adhere to the promises it made to China either.

Since 2007, Russia has warned that unless NATO promises not to include the only country within 400 miles of a possible Kremlin flash bombing – Ukraine, which is only 300 miles away. of the Kremlin - it would take steps on its own to prevent Ukraine from becoming a member of NATO. (If Ukraine were to become a member of NATO, then it could request and receive nuclear missiles from the United States, which are stationed just a five-minute flight from the Kremlin. That is why Russia will not allow such a outcome becomes possible).

The United States has also turned into a lie their commitment to China in 1972, as a necessary condition for China to trade with the United States: The United States promised that they were "of the opinion that it would be against the interests of the peoples of the world for one great country to agree with another against other countries, or for the great countries to divide the world into spheres of interest. (…) The United States recognizes that all Chinese, on both sides of the Taiwan Strait, maintain that there is only one China and that Taiwan is part of China. The United States government does not dispute this position.». In the same document, China indicated its understanding of this statement by the United States. . "Taiwan is a province of China that has long since been returned to the motherland; the liberation of Taiwan is China's internal affair in which no other country has the right to interfere; and all US military forces and installations must be withdrawn from Taiwan. The Chinese government firmly opposes any activity aimed at creating "one China, one Taiwan", "one China, two governments", "two Chinas" and "an independent Taiwan" or advocating the idea that "the status of Taiwan to be determined". The United States did not object to this statement by the Chinese government – which was included in the agreement. Thus, this document clearly stated that the United States would never do anything to violate it. This agreement was the prerequisite for China and the United States to do business together. Today, the United States systematically violates it.

The government of the United States is, at present, a lying government which, despite its lying denials, aspires to take control of the entire planet; this mega-imperialist intention is now clear to the whole world. China and Russia are now taking the necessary steps to ensure that this global imperialist goal of the voracious post-WWII US government can never be achieved. To that end, they are gradually developing into, at least to some extent, a single republic consisting of two major regions: China and Russia.

A special 298-page November 2020 issue ofAmerican Journal of Economics and Sociology, entitled "Chinese farmers in the Russian Far East», already indicated in its introduction that:

«The Russian Far East is a region of southern Siberia located just north of northeast China and south of the vast subarctic belt of Siberia. Unlike Siberia, which is cold and dry, the climate of the Russian Far East is a humid continental climate; it resembles the Great Lakes region of the United States or the prairie provinces of Canada, but with cooler summers and drier winters. In areas of the RFE where soils are drained and rainfall is sufficient, the climate is ideal for cash crops. However, since the collapse of the Soviet Union, large swaths of land today lie undeveloped, for lack of labor and capital to make it productive. Much of the undeveloped land is submarginal, due to waterlogged floodplains, steep slopes, or the great distance to a market complicated by a limited network of railroads and roads.

As the authors note, the region currently specializes in the production of soybeans, one of the most commercialized crops in the world. As part of the trade war, retaliatory Chinese tariffs have been an obstacle for American farmers who sell soybeans to China».

The measures taken by the American government since then have only accelerated the rapprochement of these two neighboring countries, which both share the same ideological commitment against imperialism: China, the world leader in human resources, and Russia, world leader in natural resources.

On August 22, 2022, I headlined “Why China and Russia will probably be the dominant country after the year 2100". I stress that the fact that Russia is the richest country in natural resources in the world and that it borders China makes it the ideal partner for the latter.

On March 29, 2023, I headlined “China will probably become the dominant country in the world". I emphasize that the fact that China is the richest country in human resources and that it borders Russia makes it the ideal partner for the latter.

The joint military exercise between Russia and China suggests that the top leaders of both countries recognize that all of this is true and is becoming more so with each passing day.

source: oriental review
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mexweed said:
why should we believe that Kennedy has some magical access to intel outside of the majority of bullshit everyone else has access to, he doesn't even hold a political seat
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RFK for president of... America?

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Putin Wins – on All Counts
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By Pepe Escobar

When the lightning of History strikes, better cut to the chase in our first draft.

When the lightning of History strikes, better cut to the chase in our first draft.

Here we go.

After the extraordinary events in Russia during The Longest Day, President Putin wins on all counts.

Among other feats, he has made an absolute, inter-galactic ass of the whole collective West MSM – all over again.

He rallied virtually every Russian to end the Special Military Operation (SMO) – or “almost war” (according to some business circles) quicker.

He – and the FSB – amassed a formidable list of traitors and 5th and 6th columnists, which will be properly dealt with.

And he now enjoys unlimited freedom to deploy de facto Counter-Terrorist Operation (CTO) martial law powers.

As much as Putin helped perennial Lukashenko in August 2020, preventing regime change in Belarus, good ol’ Luka prevented Russia from sliding into civil war in June 2023.

A complex wide-ranging counter-terror op is now in effect in Moscow and beyond, while assorted Western sub-zoology specimens are stunned, dazed and confused: wasn’t that supposed to be Putin meeting his Czar Nicholas II moment?

A first glance at the chessboard tells us that all the pieces seem to be falling in their right places.

Prighozin gets a golden parachute in Belarus. Shoigu may be about to be sacked, perhaps even Gerasimov (yes, there are deeply dysfunctional layers inside the Ministry of Defense). The Wagner musicians will be incorporated as a regular Army Corps. They may keep doing business in Africa: demand is huge.

So what really happened after The Longest Day? Hefty CIA funds may have changed hands. But in the end the “coup” could turn out to be the Greatest Russian Trolling of the West Ever.

The Mother of All Maskirovkas

Once again, facts on the ground prove Putin is the undisputed champion of Russia. After keeping a strategic silence for a few hours, his intervention gathered full support from the civilian population, the FSB, the Chechens, the Army, the Communists, everyone.

The exact terms of the deal between Luka and Prighozin, with help from the governor of the Tula region, Alexey Dyumin, are still unclear.

Prighozin said he was satisfied with the terms. Peskov confirmed on the record that a criminal case against Prigozhin would be dropped. A key Prighozin demand was the twin resignation of Defense Minister Shoigu and Chief of Staff Gerasimov. That may – or may not – happen in the immediate future.

And that brings us to the still fascinating possibility this was the Mother of All Maskirovkas. Prigozhin sets up all this circus just to get a meeting in Moscow with Shoigu and Gerasimov.

Talk about an overkill just to go out on a date.

The Mother of All Maskirovkas scenario also implies a move worthy of 5D chess.

On Saturday, Wagner was 200 km away from Moscow.

Yet on Sunday, Wagner was 100 km away from Kiev.

Next level Sun Tzu Art of War, anyone?

Between sovereignty and betrayal

Alexander Dugin correctly points out how this was also an exercise in Sovereignty: “Only Sovereign Lukashenko, together with Sovereign Putin himself, confronted [Prighozin]…It turned out that many can frame the President and the people, acting in the shadows and apparently on his behalf, but saving the Fatherland in a critical situation is not their specialty.”

The corollary is that Russia needs “a sovereign elite, otherwise everything will repeat itself.”

As for the dazed and confused collective West, especially the NATO-Kiev junta, with everyone instantly rebranding Wagner from “terrorists” to “freedom fighters”, getting bogged down in their own swamp is the art they excel in.

Mainstream media spun that the proverbial “Western officials” were “taken by surprise” by the mutiny. That depends on the amount of funds that changed hands, and in which direction, during the preparation.

The SMO, now CTO keeps rolling along. The Russian Army continues to fight, undisturbed. The “counter-offensive” remains teetering over the edge of a cliff, ready to kiss the black void.

Putin winning on all counts implies the whole civilian population – and the military – engaged into preserving him and the Russian institutions, as well as perfecting them. There’s absolutely no nation anywhere across the collective West where we find this level of citizen support.

Russian politics is a special animal. It works at the highest level and also at grassroots level – unlike in the West, where the norm is deep hatred between the elites and the people.

Of course it should always be stressed it’s the less patriotic Russian oligarchs who run away every time something approaching The Longest Day takes place.

For a few hours, the West was betting heavily on the dismemberment of Russia. Not now. And not in the foreseeable future.

The succession is already being prepared, by Team Putin and selected patriotic oligarchs. Among the contenders, there’s a secret name that will stun everyone when it pops up. He’s still invisible in terms of public opinion, and works in the shadows. His name should remain secret for the time being.

As it stands, what matters is that Russia as whole emerged even stronger out of The Longest Day. The man and woman in the street showed himself and herself, once again, as a true patriot, ready to defend the Motherland whatever it takes.

There was no confrontation between those who are pro-Russian institutions and those who are pro-Wagner. People actually support both. People regarded Wagner like the “polite green men” who helped to peacefully retake Crimea in 2014. Facing them, there was not a single policeman or military.
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So Putin is stronger than ever. But everyone should always keep this in mind: the one thing he can’t forgive is betrayal.
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The little midget just doesn't get it. Russia has attacked Ukraine because they do not want NATO so close. The fool says he wants to be part of NATO after the war is over.

"Ukraine wants signal from Nato summit that it can join alliance after war​

President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Ukraine understood it could not join Nato while war was raging on its soil, but that Kyiv wanted to receive a signal that it can join the military alliance after the war ends.

Reiterating Kyiv’s stance before a Nato summit next month, he said Ukraine also wanted security guarantees for the period until it can join the alliance."

So the Russians will push the ukies back to the river to create a bigger buffer zone, and less male ukies. This war won't end soon with attitudes like the midget stipper's.
 
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Roms said:
Another video of pigeon shooting by Ka-52 Alligator helicopter
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The open-source weapons tracker site Oryx, whose helicopter tally matches that of the cited military bloggers, said it had documented evidence of the following Russian losses: a Mi-35 attack helicopter, a Ka-52 attack helicopter, three Mi-8 electronic-warfare helicopters, one Mi-8 transport, and an Il-22M airborne command post.

www.forbes.com

Wagner Mercenaries Did What Ukrainian Troops Couldn’t Do: Shoot Down A Priceless Russian Command Plane

During their 400-mile march toward Moscow, Wagner mercenaries shot down six Russian aircraft: five helicopters and a very valuable Ilyushin Il-22M Coot radio-relay plane.
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buzzmobile said:
The open-source weapons tracker site Oryx, whose helicopter tally matches that of the cited military bloggers, said it had documented evidence of the following Russian losses: a Mi-35 attack helicopter, a Ka-52 attack helicopter, three Mi-8 electronic-warfare helicopters, one Mi-8 transport, and an Il-22M airborne command post.

www.forbes.com

Wagner Mercenaries Did What Ukrainian Troops Couldn’t Do: Shoot Down A Priceless Russian Command Plane

During their 400-mile march toward Moscow, Wagner mercenaries shot down six Russian aircraft: five helicopters and a very valuable Ilyushin Il-22M Coot radio-relay plane.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
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and they used Russian Pantsir systems to do it. the electronic surveillance and command aircraft had 10 men on it. two were the pilot and copilot, 3 were technical sergeants, and the other five were officers. it was an expensive loss for Russia as they only had 3 of these aircraft (Ilyushin 22) set up for this role.

it was an expensive day for Russia and the largest total loss of aircraft in one day in this war.

none of the helicopter and aircraft crew survived so the loss of highly trained personnel is not something they can replace fast.
 
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flylowgethigh said:
The little midget just doesn't get it. Russia has attacked Ukraine because they do not want NATO so close. The fool says he wants to be part of NATO after the war is over.

"Ukraine wants signal from Nato summit that it can join alliance after war​

President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Ukraine understood it could not join Nato while war was raging on its soil, but that Kyiv wanted to receive a signal that it can join the military alliance after the war ends.

Reiterating Kyiv’s stance before a Nato summit next month, he said Ukraine also wanted security guarantees for the period until it can join the alliance."

So the Russians will push the ukies back to the river to create a bigger buffer zone, and less male ukies. This war won't end soon with attitudes like the midget stipper's.
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"the little midget just doesn't get it". when i first read this line i thought "flyreallylow" was asking for help interpreting what he reads.

and "flyreallylow", Ukraine is already being fast-tracked into NATO. everything will be ready for their membership the day a peace treaty is signed. they have already stated that they will not give up NATO ascension to appease the Russians

Ukraine now has the largest and best-equipped army in Europe and has shown that it will fight so they are prime candidates for NATO.

Russia caused this and the addition of Sweden and Finland to NATO.

a brilliant strategy for an anti-NATO country.
 
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GenghisKush said:
I thought that surely this was just a meme, and not something that really happend.
I was wrong.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr on Twitter: "🌟 Join the movement to save our na…

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Kennedy is another example of rich, entitled snobs erroneously assuming that they understand the common man. every Kennedy is born with a share in a billion-dollar trust fund.

yeah, i can see that he understands the "people".

his son Conor Kennedy just volunteered and served in the Ukrainian Army's International Legion.

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New Photos Show Conor Kennedy on the Front Lines in Ukraine

RFK's grandson recently revealed he secretly fought in Ukraine’s International Legion.
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he said, "This war will shape the future of democracy".
 
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