War

[Roms]

Y. Prigozhin believes and imagines himself inclined to govern Ukraine after the conflict but he keeps sinking into his own low-end capitalist quagmire. There will be no more Ukraine in fact and this objective is far from touching his little delinquent mind. Russia has probably voluntarily used him too much and he freaks out, classic post trauma syndrome after a year of war, especially since he realizes that his ambitions are in vain and that he does not have and will not have no power over Nova Russia. “The Frog who wants to be as big as an ox” fabled La Fontaine. In short, now he will certainly perish properly sniped during a next front from Belarus and he will receive his posthumous medals.

 

[GenghisKush]

There will be no more Ukraine in fact

This is an expression of genocidal ambition.

 

[Roms]

The world belongs to you​

by Israel Shamir

The mystery of the Ukrainian war still eludes its Julius Caesar. Yet more and more crucial details are slipping through the roadblocks. Putin shows his maps, Lukashenko divulges documents, Zelensky chatters and tells… When the war broke out, the United States had just completed their great feat: the consolidation of their power over the entire civilized world. No one in history could claim such a feat; neither the ancient Roman Empire, nor the British Empire, nor Hitler nor Stalin; but the Yanks succeeded. Their chosen agents and proxies ruled all the important states: England and France, Germany and Japan were all ruled by American agents. Germany and Japan may still be occupied by the US military, but even though France has no US troops, it is still led by a US agent. Sweden's US proxy recently agreed to give up its valuable and profitable neutrality. Finland has given up Russia's inexhaustible supply of cheap gas and timber to become a pawn, deep in the wilderness of the far north. These American agents were going to be able to inflict horrible suffering on their subjects; they were going to destroy industries, bring famine and epidemics upon their nations, just to follow the magic wand into the hands of Washington. No country is far from an American military base: yes, they control the world.

Russia and China have also been subjugated: they retain vestiges of independence, but accept American orders. The Russian communism that preserved the huge Russian state through the world wars finally fell, and the neoliberal regimes that followed sold or demolished whatever was left standing. The Russians ignored their own security because they were promised that NATO would never expand eastward into the former Soviet states, but that promise was not honored. The United States openly reneged on its promises, not even allowing Russia to complain. Putin, who takes relatively good care of his people and remains popular with them, demanded that NATO withdraw to the borders of the 1997 accord. They flatly refused to discuss it; but Putin was still hesitant to confront the global supremacy of the United States.

China was subjugated by trade, because it was left to manufacture and sell cheap goods, thus getting rid of its own poverty. President Xi has in fact obeyed the wishes of the United States, but still more or less maintains the illusion of independence.

The great planet Earth practically belongs to the United States. With hundreds of military bases, the dollar as the universal currency, what more could you want? The world belongs to you! Americans could finally relax and enjoy the good life. But they were always too greedy and hubris led them to sacrifice their own possessions. By attacking Russia, they could well put an end to their hegemony.

They decided to teach Russian Putin a lesson. To do this, they used the Desert Storm model that they implemented in 1992 against Saddam Hussein in Iraq. As you may remember, the American ambassador had told Saddam that the United States would not oppose his taking over Kuwait, a small but wealthy principality that was part of Iraq until the British separated it. So Saddam did just that, only to discover he was being called the new Hitler. The United States had attacked Iraq in what was called Operation Desert Storm; in the process they killed some 40 soldiers and caused the death of 000 Iraqi civilians. Over the next decade, the United States bled Iraq with sanctions, repeatedly invaded, and finally hanged Saddam. In the same way, they convinced Mr. Putin that the United States would not interfere in Ukraine. It was a trap, and he fell into it.

The situation in Ukraine had been worrying for some time and was already explosive. The current regime in kyiv was established after the 2014 coup, which was orchestrated by Victoria Nuland and her minyan [Jewish cenacle] of Neocons. The regime was generously supported by the United States as long as it remained vehemently anti-Russian. They began by bombing the ethnically Russian-dominated eastern Ukrainian region of Donbass. Although the Kiev regime signed the Minsk agreements promising a certain degree of autonomy in Donbass, it trampled on them and later admitted to having concluded these agreements just to have more time to prepare for war with Russia . But Putin is a peaceful man and he didn't want to send his army to fight. The Russian army was reduced during his reign; expensive weapon systems were destroyed or stored. Putin reduced the army to a rather small professional army, ready for minor conflicts on the periphery, relying on the nuclear weapons he inherited from the USSR, designed to adjust to doomsday scenarios. Everything else – pertaining to the conventional confrontations that dominated the XNUMXth century – has been neglected. Finally, still convinced that the United States would not interfere, Putin entered Ukraine to impose peace.

The sad experience of June 22, 1941 had marked him. It was the day Germany invaded Russia despite the peace treaty between the two countries. Stalin had learned from his spies that the attack was imminent, but he did not believe it; he was sure it was just an enemy rumor. The first strike of the German panzers reached the walls of Moscow six months later. Putin did not want to give the Ukrainians the same gift that Stalin did to Hitler. Strike first! – that is Putin's motto.

Within days, the Russian army was already at the gates of kyiv. It was quick, short and decisive. Immediately, in Istanbul, the representatives of Russia and Ukraine finalized a diplomatic agreement. The deal was made possible through the good offices of Russian Jewish oligarch Roman Abramovich, owner of the Chelsea club, who wanted to avoid sanctions. Mr. Oleg Tsarev, who followed these events closely (he was a candidate for the presidency of Ukraine in 2014), said that Mr. Abramovich had bribed the Ukrainian leaders so that they quickly agreed to the agreement. The agreement was not bad for Ukraine: they had to reduce their army, accept permanent neutrality and accept that Donbass be returned to Russia. This was reasonable, considering the eight years that Donbass had been bombarded by the Ukrainian army. But it was not to be: Mr Johnson, the British Prime Minister, arrived in kyiv and outbid Mr Abramovich. Ukraine accepted more war. It was a popular decision in Ukraine: the people wanted war.

A few days before the war, the subject had been broached on Mr. Savik Shuster's popular Ukrainian talk show. Surprisingly, almost 90% of the public had voted for war, rather than respecting the Minsk agreements. The United States also insisted on war. They felt that Putin was caught in their trap. Meanwhile, the Russian army had already begun to withdraw from kyiv and the Kharkov region. The Russian generals brought their heavy weapons back into Russian territory and quickly withdrew. The withdrawal was tactical – the Russian army in Ukraine was very small, just enough for a lightning raid but not for a prolonged occupation. But it was still a humiliating exercise.

Worse, the United States and its Ukrainian allies staged a copy of Timisoara in the small town of Bucha, with corpses taken from graves and the morgue, to blame Russian soldiers for atrocities. Timisoara is this Romanian mining town where a similar massacre had been organized by the CIA in 1989 in order to quickly depose and execute then-leader Mr. Nicolae Ceausescu.

To fight a longer war, Russia needed to find more soldiers, and so the mobilization began. Many pro-Western (and not so young) young men had left Russia, mainly to the former Soviet republics of Georgia, Kazakhstan, etc., and to Israel where entry visas are not required for Russians. Some pro-Westerns have made an attempt to settle in Europe, aspiring to refugee status (they were encouraged and educated by emigrants from previous waves). This whole generation had grown up after the fall of the Soviet Union and had been brought up to believe that the West was wonderful. Russia is the only ex-Soviet republic that has not experienced a nationalist upsurge; all other Soviet states were inspired by their own nostalgia for nationalism or even (in the case of Ukraine) influenced by neo-Nazis. While Ukrainians and Georgians are taught in school that they are the best, Russians are taught that they are not particularly wonderful. Even ordinary patriotism can hardly be unearthed in Russia. Their love is turned towards the West; the media's love affair with America is a universal trend, and it worked for Russia too.

Russian nationalism had been eradicated almost completely in the USSR, although nationalists had one or two major magazines in the last days of the Soviet Union. In the 1970s, Russian nationalists tried to make themselves heard, but they were later accused of anti-Semitism and remained silent (the poet Stanislav Kunyaev recounts this last fight). Even under Putin, the nationalists continue to be discouraged, although the Jews (who had left en masse for Israel) have been partly replaced by Armenians. Only the last years of Stalin's reign were reasonably good for Russian nationalists. This is why there was no positive response to the mobilization. Pro-Western personalities have succeeded in appropriating practically all cultural resources, and for a creator, there was no choice: if he wanted to be published, if he wanted to break into the cinema, he had to be pro-western. The war in Ukraine was a good thing from this point of view. At least some Russian patriotism has become legitimate again, although this is still not the dominant mood. The United States imposed anti-Russian sanctions on all of its allies, allowing only imports that the United States wanted for its own purposes. Even the tribunal in The Hague was subject to American sanctions (the United States threatened to occupy The Hague if its judges dared to investigate the massacres in Vietnam and Afghanistan by American forces). They filed a complaint against President Putin for the totally fictitious accusation of kidnapping Ukrainian children (about 150 Ukrainian children were moved from the battlefield to summer vacation camps, while twice as many children were taken by the EU from their parents). Although unfair, the very accusation had a positive impact on Mr. Putin: from that moment on, he understood that if he failed, he could expect the fate of Saddam Hussein; ergo it can't fail.

The war turned into a old fashioned trench battle and heavy fortifications. The only important battle (after Mariupol) was the battle for Bakhmout, a small provincial commune. A previously little-known man, Yevgeny Prigozhin, will forever be remembered. He was called "Putin's chef" for a funny reason: he once owned a catering business that fed schoolchildren in Moscow and St. Petersburg. But in 2015, he became the director and commander of a company of mercenaries, the Wagner Group, and his soldiers had a great impact in Syria and then in Africa. It was his soldiers who took Bakhmout after "the chopper", as they called this operation. Thousands of Ukrainian soldiers were killed there. Prigozhin is also a master of public relations. He ruthlessly criticizes the MoD (Ministry of Defence), the General Staff, the Generals and the Minister of Defence. He accused them of a lack of patriotism, of caring little about Russian soldiers. The only exception he made was for his old acquaintances from the Syrian campaign, General “Armageddon” Surovikin and three-star General Michael Mizintsev who commanded the troops during the reduction of Mariupol. The son of a peasant from Vologda, Mizintsev was the highest-ranking Russian officer currently on the battlefield and he was deputy defense minister. After Bakhmout's chopper, Mizintsev retired from his post at the MoD, and he became the second-in-command of the Wagner Group.

Why did Mr. Putin allow such ruthless criticism of his Defense Ministry? Apparently he wanted to have a balance. He remembers that the Iraqi army was defeated by the United States with the help of Iraqi generals who had accepted American bribes and who betrayed their country and their leader. The Wagner group was insurance against a similar move by the Russian generals.

The Wagner group is a good army, full of soldiers and officers ready to fight. At first he had the problem of running out of ammo, but it seems that has been resolved. The USSR left a rich heritage of arms and ammunition; although its production has been weakened somewhat, they have recently improved it. After the disastrous reign of Gorbachev-Yeltsin, things had to be reconnected, and the war in Ukraine gave Mr. Putin a chance to force the connections. Yes, it's always better to avoid war altogether, but Putin squeezes NATO lemons and turns them into Russian lemonade. Yes, the Russians were naive enough to believe that the United States could help them instead of fight them. They were that stupid? But it started a long time ago, this Russian fantasy of a free and magnificent West as an earthly paradise and a model of democratic perfection. Putin had also accepted this paradigm for many years. So the war was good insofar as it allowed Russia to reactivate itself, just like its army, and its patriotism.

After Bakhmout's chopper, the Russian army sat and waited for the Ukrainian offensive. It started two weeks ago, and yet there is still no great victory. But who knows? It is not impossible that the Ukrainians will get something, as long as the Russians refuse mobilization and are reluctant to put their economy on a war footing. It seems that Mr. Putin has finally accepted that the NATO war will not end anytime soon. He is now thinking about much longer term strategies, as this is also a time of great realignment in the world. Europe could thrive on cheap Russian resources; Russia could prosper by selling it to them. But as long as European states have American agents, this will not be the case.

Recently, a very pro-Western expert named Sergei Karaganov has published an article calling for a tactical nuclear strike against NATO. On the other hand, a Russian strategist, a patriot and even a Stalinist, Mr Shishkin, persuaded his audience to avoid this, because tactical warfare must turn into strategic nuclear warfare. This discussion is still ongoing. But it seems that major American and European figures are no longer afraid of nuclear war, not after COVID-19, and especially not after the shocking rise in the cost of living (thanks to the green agenda and the destruction of European agriculture). Who would want to live their life in these conditions? Unless the power of the global oligarchs is broken, we are all tempted to prepare for Armageddon, with no regrets.

Finally, my scholarly friend Professor Z believes that once every thousand years humanity is destroyed by a race of spacebenders and reborn to take care of the planet. Now aliens even appear on the pages of the NYT. It's probably a good time for us to be wiped out, and thanks to Greta Thunberg, Bill Gates, Antonio Fauci et al for all of that.

source: The Unz Review

 

[Roms]

This is an expression of genocidal ambition.

Absolutely reverse accusation, most of Ukraine and Russia have the same Slavic genetics so the genocide ambition comes from your system against Slavics.

This is an expression of peace but you English/U.S. are mostly blind to this word and concept.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Absolutely reverse accusation, most of Ukraine and Russia have the same Slavic genetics so the genocide ambition comes from your system against Slavics.

This is an expression of peace but you English/U.S. are mostly blind to this word and concept.

This is amusing until you see what it gets you in reality.

 

[Microbeman]

Y. Prigozhin believes and imagines himself inclined to govern Ukraine after the conflict but he keeps sinking into his own low-end capitalist quagmire. There will be no more Ukraine in fact and this objective is far from touching his little delinquent mind. Russia has probably voluntarily used him too much and he freaks out, classic post trauma syndrome after a year of war, especially since he realizes that his ambitions are in vain and that he does not have and will not have no power over Nova Russia. “The Frog who wants to be as big as an ox” fabled La Fontaine. In short, now he will certainly perish properly sniped during a next front from Belarus and he will receive his posthumous medals.

who? putin?

 

[Roms]

I would imagine much more a Chechen commando to tune the violins

 

[Roms]

Russian army foiled 21 enemy attacks and neutralized around 805 Kiev soldiers in 24 hours​

In the past 24 hours, Russian troops have repelled 21 Ukrainian attacks and eliminated around 805 soldiers. They bombed four ammunition depots from the Kiev army and intercepted a Totchka-U missile, said Russian Defense in a new balance sheet.
For the past 24 hours, Kiev has continued to make counterattack attempts on several routes, reports June 25 to the Russian Defense Ministry in its daily record.
In total, 21 attacks were thwarted, specifies the proceeding.

Human losses​

During the fighting, Russian troops neutralized nearly 805 Ukrainian soldiers, including about 430 on the Donetsk axis.
In addition, Kiev forces lost up to 25 soldiers on the Koupiansk axis, and more than 170 others on those of Donetsk-Sud and Zaporojié. Finally, up to 130 men were eliminated on the Krasny Liman axis and more than 50 on the Kherson axis.
Russian forces also defeated two sabotage and reconnaissance groups. Three Ukrainian soldiers surrendered.

Armaments put out of service​

Among the artillery pieces decommissioned are two D-20 howitzers, four D-30s, two Msta-Bs and one Gvozdika. In addition, an American-made M777 artillery system was reduced to ashes.
Moscow forces also managed to raze four ammunition warehouses of the Ukrainian army.
Air defense intercepted a Totchka-U tactical missile and a HIMARS multiple rocket launcher projectile. In addition, four drones and a tank were also wiped out.
In total, in 24 hours, the Russian strikes targeted 108 artillery stations as well as personnel and military equipment in 137 zones.

Since the start of the special military operation in Ukraine, the Russian army has shot down 444 planes, 240 helicopters and 4,779 drones. It destroyed 426 surface-to-air defense systems, 10,348 tanks and other armored vehicles, 1,131 multiple rocket launchers, 5,228 pieces of field artillery and mortars, and 11,179 other military equipment.

 

[Kimes]

Unironically if this snippet from the fogs of war holds water, he might have just gotten a personal nuclear insurance policy..

Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding spectacularly.

 

[igrowone]

the latest - seems Belarus doesn't know where Prigozhin actually is at this time

 

[RobFromTX]

Go figure

 

[RobFromTX]

He has to be crazy to think he can pull something like that and walk away from it. He should have just kept on truckin to moscow and died like a man

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Or just rubbed out Putin and his loyals.

 

[Kimes]

 

[Zeez]

the latest - seems Belarus doesn't know where Prigozhin actually is at this time

Maybe the whole show was a Hail Mary play against the broadcast counteroffensive.

 

[igrowone]

He has to be crazy to think he can pull something like that and walk away from it. He should have just kept on truckin to moscow and died like a man

maybe crazy like a fox
he's coming from nothing as a young guy, self made wealthy
reputation is smart, ruthless, and has charisma
the next few days could be real interesting

 

[RobFromTX]

maybe crazy like a fox
he's coming from nothing as a young guy, self made wealthy
reputation is smart, ruthless, and has charisma
the next few days could be real interesting

I'd never order take out again. I know that. Nothing but frozen t.v. dinners from here on out

 

[growshopfrank]

I'd never order take out again. I know that. Nothing but frozen t.v. dinners from here on out

Free flying lesson.

 

[armedoldhippy]

if Prigozhins men were willing to follow him into Moscow, i doubt seriously that Putrid will try to do anything to him. i don't think the Russian military has either the balls or capability to take him on while Wagner is a going concern in the region. i'd be watching Africa VERY closely to see if Wagners troops there head back to Belarus, if i was Putrid...

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I'm sure only a certain percentage of soldiers would actually appreciate either leader opting for peace... but do we know what kind of settlement was reached between Putin and Prigozhin...?

Do Russians actually want peace, at least after they brought warfare....?