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Saudi Arabia has been killing Houthis in Yemen with US weapons for years.
Iran arms the Houthis and now the russians
Maybe Saudi Arabia can buy Iranian drones from russia?
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Ca++
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Russia and Saudi are the oil price fixing group known as opec. They have agreed there is no point selling lots of oil when demand is so high. They will sell less oil. The demand for which will make them just as much profit. They don't feel the need to pump lots more to you. They are not your friend. You are just money to them. They are pushing up prices, rather than production. As Russia and Saudi are such big players, they work together on this, so as not to undercut the other. It doesn't make them friends either. It's just monopolising the market at a time nobody can stop them.
Neither are your friends. They just want money. To leverage them, you need to withhold everything they need in return. What do your government sell them, that they actually want. That is where the weapons come into this. It's just a commodity.
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at the moment, you are correct. Russia does not have enough for their own use much less anything on the shelves for sale. historically, however, they ship quick and have easy credit for countries in the middle east. it's not in our interests to allow Houthi missiles to damage Saudi oil facilities... cutting off ones nose to spite your face is never a good idea.
Agree to disagree
It's long past time to remind people what's up.
It's long past time to remind people what's up.
US issues sweeping restrictions on chip sales to China
https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/7/...nductor-chips-intel-micron-china-ohio-science
India?
https://eurasiantimes.com/kashmir-f-16-snub-to-india-two-us-coast-guard-ships-visit-pakistan/
After Kashmir & F-16 Snub To India, Two US Coast Guard Ships Visit Pakistan Reflecting ‘Strong Relationship & Cooperation’
https://eurasiantimes.com/kashmir-f-16-snub-to-india-two-us-coast-guard-ships-visit-pakistan/
Nixon opening them up to our markets (and vice versa) looked like a good idea, fiscally. we should have been more careful what we sold them though. and virtually ALL of their "exchange students" in college here are active duty military working for the CCP. industrial/military espionage on a massive scale... we give them trade/military secrets, we get cheap plastic shit sold at Wal Mart. not much of a deal to my eyes...
yeah, the administration is miffed because India is not boycotting Russian oil etc like we hoped. we "try" to be as friendly to Pakistan as we can, given the circumstances over there.
Ca++
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I didn't know about this threat.
So you are saying to Saudi "stop reducing production, before somebody really reduces it"
While Saudi are oil guys and Russia gas, they are both fuel products. Both countries want more money for it, so must not under-cut the other on pricing.
I missed the mark on opec. They control 80% of the oil. Russian gas is an alternative where fuel is concerned.
yes, basically. it is in the best interests of the industrialized nations that fuel is flowing smoothly, since damn near all economies rely on it. we've been selling the Saudis what they need to protect themselves (and a lot more). they -could- buy these things elsewhere, but would get lower quality, and no US marines out there someplace to help if need be. if they cut supply to support Russia, exactly what other tools do we have at hand ? the Saudis want/need a Russia or China as a potential partner to counter-balance our influence. if seen as controlled by the US by the Muslim world, they will become targets. tis a difficult situation to be in for both parties in reality.
We do a bit more than defend their oil.
We also provide intelligence, training and technical support on weapons systems, along with refuelling war planes carrying out air strikes. And of course, the weapons they use to fight Iran through Yemen.
The defensive/offensive differentiation was always a bit fuzzy and more a game of semantics
We also provide intelligence, training and technical support on weapons systems, along with refuelling war planes carrying out air strikes. And of course, the weapons they use to fight Iran through Yemen.
The defensive/offensive differentiation was always a bit fuzzy and more a game of semantics
Navy Resumes Flight Training of Saudi Students After Pensacola Shooting
https://news.usni.org/2020/02/26/na...ng-of-saudi-students-after-pensacola-shooting
should open a flight school in Saudi Arabia. no reason they have to come here that i see. bound to contaminate their religious upbringing, isn't it? not a hijab in sight, lol...damn near everything else is visible as well.
Brother Nature
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Last time the us taught the saudis to fly jets didn’t turn out so well….
Bad things happen when number of takeoffs do not equal number of landings.
their govt already has pilots. they would have to refuel to fly from there to here. let's make them do that instead of taking off from air bases in THIS country where they are training. and those were private flight schools that showed the 9/11 attackers only how to steer, but not land or anything else. there is no absolute protection from a suicidal commercial/military pilot.
The 128th?
Ca++
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The Ukraine seem to be loosing again. The only advances are from the russians, who have about surrounded Bakhmut.
Without a game changer, I'm not sure they can do much. Russia bomb them, they don't bomb Russia. It doesn't take a computer simulation to see the outcome.
UK defense minister cancelled his defense meeting in the UK today, as his plans unexpectedly took him to Washington
There are growing monetary reasons the Ukraine should win now, and they have a lot of untapped gas the US want access to. Contracts are being drawn up. The Ukraine are meant to win this.
Small attacks over the boarder into Russian staging areas have been gaining pace. This has not over stepped any line in the sand drawn by Russia. It's now a part of the theater, and I feel some new actors are due to join.
Without a game changer, I'm not sure they can do much. Russia bomb them, they don't bomb Russia. It doesn't take a computer simulation to see the outcome.
UK defense minister cancelled his defense meeting in the UK today, as his plans unexpectedly took him to Washington
There are growing monetary reasons the Ukraine should win now, and they have a lot of untapped gas the US want access to. Contracts are being drawn up. The Ukraine are meant to win this.
Small attacks over the boarder into Russian staging areas have been gaining pace. This has not over stepped any line in the sand drawn by Russia. It's now a part of the theater, and I feel some new actors are due to join.
