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Brother Nature

Brother Nature

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HempKat said:
Why do you think relations between the current administration and MBS have cooled down so much? Did you think it was all about the reporter that he had sliced and diced?
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Jamal Khashoggi and US/Saudi relations have about as much to do with each other as the price of tea in china has on California weed prices. You guys don't give a fuck about human rights when it doen't serve your (the US's) interests. Saudi Arabia realizes where their financial future lies, it's a shame the US doesn't and it's why you're paying $5 a gallon for fuel. You can argue about Russian/Ukraine till you're all blue in the face, but what's the US's role there and why does it even matter? Why is the narrative that the Ukrainians need support when Yemen doesn't, when Palestine doesn't, when Somalia doesn't, when Venezuela doesn't, when Afghanistan doesn't, when Native Americans didn't? Bow out, the US heyday is over, get used to re-calculating your international seed purchases in Yuan.
 
HempKat

HempKat

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HempKat said:
Why do you think relations between the current administration and MBS have cooled down so much? Did you think it was all about the reporter that he had sliced and diced?
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Brother Nature said:
Jamal Khashoggi and US/Saudi relations have about as much to do with each other as the price of tea in china has on California weed prices. You guys don't give a fuck about human rights when it doen't serve your (the US's) interests. Saudi Arabia realizes where their financial future lies, it's a shame the US doesn't and it's why you're paying $5 a gallon for fuel. You can argue about Russian/Ukraine till you're all blue in the face, but what's the US's role there and why does it even matter? Why is the narrative that the Ukrainians need support when Yemen doesn't, when Palestine doesn't, when Somalia doesn't, when Venezuela doesn't, when Afghanistan doesn't, when Native Americans didn't? Bow out, the US heyday is over, get used to re-calculating your international seed purchases in Yuan.
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I'm not surprised you are too blinded by your opinion to recognize I was being sarcastic about things with MBS having anything to do with Khashoggi. Thanks for echoing my point that it doesn't. Also if Saudi Arabia knows where it's financial future is that things are going to be based on the Yuan soon then why is China making deals to supply all it's oil needs with Russia? I would think if Saudi Arabia really knows it's financial future it would be eyeing that huge market opening up now that Europe is trying to separate itself from Russian oil. It could make lots of money and score big political points by replacing Russian oil with Saudi Oil. Also $5 a gallon, where are you getting your info from? Where I'm at it's $3 and change and the national average is $4.13. The main reason why the US role matter in Ukraine is that we were also a signatory to the Budapest Memorandum where we promised to help Ukraine should they ever be invaded. Now frankly as I see it, the Memorandum gives the US the right and obligation to actually have boots on the ground in Ukraine but sometimes rights and obligations aren't all that matters. We recognize that with it's nuclear arsenal and willingness to use them we have to be careful when it comes to Russia. As for Yemen, Somalia, Venezuela, Palestine and Afghanistan we don't have memorandums with them obligating us to come to their aide and frankly with the exception of maybe Yemen none of those countries want our help.
 
Brother Nature

Brother Nature

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Cool, maybe grammatically structuring your paragraphs would convey your point better? Glad you can read me by a single post on the internet too, that's quite a talent, you should be a psychologist. The rest of your post shows you only give a fuck about the American perspective, which is a shame because that's why Trump became your president and why the US is a joke to the rest of the world. The Euro/US market means nothing, your nuclear policy is no different than the Russians, but go ahead and keep sniffing each others intellectual farts in wine glasses, it's done you well thus far.
 
mexcurandero420

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
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In California you have gas prices of $5-6/gallon.
The US/UK is supplying arms to the Saudis to fight the Houthis in Yemen.The Houthis get their arms from Iran, so like Ukraine, Yemen is the country, where a proxy war is going on between Saudi Arabia and Iran.
 
Brother Nature

Brother Nature

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Austria makes great motorcycles, and apparently racists. Their racists don't ever win awards though, they just give up and shoot themselves in the head, unlike their motorcycles, who cannot shoot themselves anywhere, because they're motorcycles that don't have usable limbs.

Is there a Grand Prix of racism? No, well damn...

The Racism GP, ft. "Every politician ever" and Bubba Sparx... with a special appearance of your drunk uncle at Thanksgiving who falls asleep locked outside hugging his oil seeping Harley's front wheel.
 
mexcurandero420

mexcurandero420

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chilliwilli said:
Russian fake news for their bootlickers.
According to gazprom austria is one of them but thats fake news according to austrian news
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h.h.

h.h.

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HempKat said:
Again you're missing the point, you keep trying to compare American Citizens needs to the needs of Ukrainians and there is no comparison because American Citizens are just the victims of poor representation in Congress while Ukrainians are the victims of war. I'm not saying American Citizens need the money more then the Ukrainians need help. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy and inconsistency of our representatives. If the government was too poor to improve the lives of it's citizens as we were struggling to emerge from a pandemic less then a year ago then we're still too poor to help Ukraine with similar amounts of money. What was true last fall about our country's financial situation is still true today, nothing has changed. The only real difference between now and then is that the spending proposed then didn't enrich the politicians or the entities that give them money. The spending that is happening now on the other hand does financially benefit quite a number of politicians and entities that give them money. Mind you I'm not saying we should stop helping Ukraine, I'm saying if there was any truth to the objections on spending proposed last fall then those who objected back then should be objecting just as loudly now.
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In times of real need, we tighten our belt. Not all politicians are crooked. I was honest at my job. I know others are too. There is fiscal conservancy. It keeps our taxes from going through the roof. Limits government power. It’s a good thing, but sometimes we need to spend.
You might not afford a new car, but I bet you’ll take your kid to the doctor, even if you have to miss a meal.
 
h.h.

h.h.

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HempKat said:
Same could be said of you on your point about Azov Battalion. Yes the Originators of Azov Battalion back in 2014 when they helped fend off Russia's first invasion did have a lot of members that could be called neo Nazi's. As a result of their effort back then and in the years since against the separatists they have become seen by most of Ukraine as just fierce defenders of Ukraine and many young men who are not neo Nazi's have joined them, seeing themselves as Patriots rather then Nazi's. During that same period many of those Azov members that gave rise to equating Azov with Nazi's have left the Battalion to try and form a hard right nationalist party that got so few votes they don't hold any seats in the current government. So to try to paint all of Azov as nothing more then Nazi's is pretty intellectually dishonest and essentially now a strawman argument.
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Radicalization through oppression. Go figure.
 
chilliwilli

chilliwilli

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Lol the "ukraine neonazi starter pack " the fsb "found" monday.

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Some idiotic russian farmerboy mixed up sims and sim cards:ROFLMAO:
 
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St. Phatty

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audiohi said:
lol indeed

We've barely started dipping into our stockpile.

$782 billion per year, buddy.

We don't have healthcare, but we do have weapons.
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Not exactly.

US military contractors simply use the US government as a bank to be robbed.

The second to last military program I worked on, I was told to forget about a $7 tube of dielectric grease to fix a moisture-in-the-electronics problem on F22.

Then I was offered a Program Manager position if I would write the proposal to charge the US government $5,000,007 for that same dielectric grease.

I gained a lot of insight into why the US Air Force lost -22- F22's when Hurricane Michael visited Tyndall AFB in October 2018.

And F22's cost $330 Million each - and climbing.

Thanks for paying my Salary though.
 
mexcurandero420

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
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St. Phatty said:
Not exactly.

US military contractors simply use the US government as a bank to be robbed.

The second to last military program I worked on, I was told to forget about a $7 tube of dielectric grease to fix a moisture-in-the-electronics problem on F22.

Then I was offered a Program Manager position if I would write the proposal to charge the US government $5,000,007 for that same dielectric grease.

I gained a lot of insight into why the US Air Force lost -22- F22's when Hurricane Michael visited Tyndall AFB in October 2018.

And F22's cost $330 Million each - and climbing.

Thanks for paying my Salary though.
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But still a big shame, they stopped the production of the F22.This plane is so much superior than the F35 which costs even more.
 
Cannavore

Cannavore

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h.h. said:
I see. So all Ukrainians are baby rapers in your lame opinion. I could care less about straw men. You’re here repeating bullshit because you learned it from a meme.
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a strawman is a logical fallacy lmfao not a meme. and you're still doing it haha.
 
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