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Vote NO to legalize cannabis....Or else

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armedoldhippy

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No not true, I sell heirloom tomatoes to chefs and markets no tax, how old am I? Don't be frustrated Glow. My opinion on nonregulated cannabis is not ment to upset you this topic needs to be talked about so we don't get fucked over like alcohol. Yea anyone know anyone with a still? what a pain in the ass. Most herbalists out where we at still buy high quality moonshine for tinctures because of the stupid high tax price of "legal" booze. Not so legal if you think about it.

yup, know several folks with stills. legal to buy, legal to possess, NOT legal to fill with mash and distill without a federal permit. "legal" and "unregulated" do not mean the same thing. :tiphat:
 

mean mr.mustard

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There is actually no intelligent response that can be made to your mad and paranoid rantings. Your syntax and turbo posts scream of a clown who I was once unfortunate to encounter called Organic Freak. Rip off artist and a sociopath... Good luck with stopping the legalisation freight train pal. All the talk in the world, all the hype, all the lies, all the BS will get you no where:moon:

It's probably because there isn't much to say against the possibility.

What are your options?

"You can't expect me to believe that Big Pharma would somehow patent anything! Certainly not to profit unfairly from it anyway...."

Just doesn't really hold water.

I can see that.
 

glow

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It's probably because there isn't much to say against the possibility.

What are your options?

"You can't expect me to believe that Big Pharma would somehow patent anything! Certainly not to profit unfairly from it anyway...."

Just doesn't really hold water.

I can see that.

Don't know if you've noticed but any fool can grow weed. It actually takes some talent to put together pharmaceuticals. Sure let them patent ---- who cares. You can still grow weed.
 

glow

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No not true, I sell heirloom tomatoes to chefs and markets no tax, how old am I? Don't be frustrated Glow. My opinion on nonregulated cannabis is not ment to upset you this topic needs to be talked about so we don't get fucked over like alcohol. Yea anyone know anyone with a still? what a pain in the ass. Most herbalists out where we at still buy high quality moonshine for tinctures because of the stupid high tax price of "legal" booze. Not so legal if you think about it.


113 pages --- hmmmmm I would think its been talked to death.
 

joe2

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armedoldhippy, I think it would suck if cannabis was regulated like alcohol. Everyone, I think it would suck if the Fed writes the laws on legalizing cannabis. I fear restrictions in the numbers of plants we grow, I fear heavily sprayed commercial crops for sale in stores like tobacco, hell I fear people still going to jail over a "legal plant" tobacco and alcohol aint legal....ATF? anyhoo that's what I got to say peace yall grow some big ass beautiful and be cool :)
 

glow

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armedoldhippy, I think it would suck if cannabis was regulated like alcohol. Everyone, I think it would suck if the Fed writes the laws on legalizing cannabis. I fear restrictions in the numbers of plants we grow, I fear heavily sprayed commercial crops for sale in stores like tobacco, hell I fear people still going to jail over a "legal plant" tobacco and alcohol aint legal....ATF? anyhoo that's what I got to say peace opuyall grow some big ass beautiful and be cool :)

I'd note you're a 36 post wonder who joined in Jan 2015. Stanky Balls are you making up new names again? Anyway Joe2 how many people went to prison in the US last year for brewing their own alcohol or growing their own tobacco? Ponder that one deeply son ---
 

mean mr.mustard

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Monsanto is feeding the world.

They are here to help and all these purists are standing in the way of progress.

:jerkit:

You know as well as the rest of us that the possibilities exist.

The difference is that you want to place the plant in the hands of the worst kinds of people for them to regulate.

You would like to see that as a step forward.

Some people don't.

Ridicule as you see fit, just understand we are watching.

:tiphat:
 

shaggyballs

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Don't know if you've noticed but any fool can grow weed. It actually takes some talent to put together pharmaceuticals. Sure let them patent ----
who cares. You can still grow weed.

Many people care, maybe you should care just a bit.
Give it a shot someday.
Or just continue to say fuck everybody, thats the the thing with freedom, you can do what you think is best for you.

Let FREEDOM ring!:biggrin:
 

shaggyballs

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Ruling By State Supreme court: Up to five years in prison for cannabis users who drive in Michigan


When marijuana is involved any amount of marijuana that was in the driver’s blood or urine while he was driving will establish that the driver was under the influence. (Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 257.625(1),(2)(c), (4)(c), &(8).)

Penalties for Driving Under the Influence

Penalties vary according to whether the offense is a first of subsequent conviction. And, while not described here, harsher penalties apply if alcohol is also involved in the offense.

First convictions. Defendants face a fine of up to $300, up to 93 days in jail, up to 360 hours of community service, or any combination of these penalties. (Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 257.625(9)(a).)

Second conviction within seven years. Defendants face a fine of between $200 and $1,000, between five days and one year in jail, between 30 and 90 days of community service, or any combination of these penalties. (Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 257.625(9)(b).)

Third and subsequent convictions. Defendants face a fine of between $500 and $5,000; and either one to five years in prison, or probation (with 30 days to one year in jail, and 60 to 180 days of community service). (Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 257.625(9)(c).)

The court may order vehicle immobilization for not more than 180 days.

Therefore if any patient identifies themselves, a police officer will be more likely to arrest that patient thinking that it is probable their THC level is unlawful.

Shag says
Do not show your card!
Do not consent to testing, make the police get a court order, this is your right.

If you do not stand for something.
You will fall for anything!
 

geneva_sativa

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I have been holding off from posting this but,

it seems with the new legal status in some states we seem to be seeing less freedom and more of the shit we been trying to be rid of.

Think it ain't so ?

Know this, the state is raw power,

you give them an inch and they will take it all.

Not because they are necessarily evil, but just cause it is the nature of the ever expanding state to enforce all its' policies . . .

but make no mistake folks, they will steamroll over your ass if the opportunity presents itself.
 

the gnome

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I have been holding off from posting this but,

it seems with the new legal status in some states we seem to be seeing less freedom and more of the shit we been trying to be rid of.

Think it ain't so ?

Know this, the state is raw power,

you give them an inch and they will take it all.

Not because they are necessarily evil, but just cause it is the nature of the ever expanding state to enforce all its' policies . . .

but make no mistake folks, they will steamroll over your ass if the opportunity presents itself.

:yeahthats
 

glow

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Ruling By State Supreme court: Up to five years in prison for cannabis users who drive in Michigan


When marijuana is involved any amount of marijuana that was in the driver’s blood or urine while he was driving will establish that the driver was under the influence. (Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 257.625(1),(2)(c), (4)(c), &(8).)

Penalties for Driving Under the Influence

Penalties vary according to whether the offense is a first of subsequent conviction. And, while not described here, harsher penalties apply if alcohol is also involved in the offense.

First convictions. Defendants face a fine of up to $300, up to 93 days in jail, up to 360 hours of community service, or any combination of these penalties. (Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 257.625(9)(a).)

Second conviction within seven years. Defendants face a fine of between $200 and $1,000, between five days and one year in jail, between 30 and 90 days of community service, or any combination of these penalties. (Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 257.625(9)(b).)

Third and subsequent convictions. Defendants face a fine of between $500 and $5,000; and either one to five years in prison, or probation (with 30 days to one year in jail, and 60 to 180 days of community service). (Mich. Comp. Laws Ann. § 257.625(9)(c).)

The court may order vehicle immobilization for not more than 180 days.

Therefore if any patient identifies themselves, a police officer will be more likely to arrest that patient thinking that it is probable their THC level is unlawful.

Shag says
Do not show your card!
Do not consent to testing, make the police get a court order, this is your right.

So you think you should not have to pay taxes and should be allowed to drive while impaired ---- ? Do you think everything in life should be free also? Th epoint here is that this law exists regardless or will under legalisation or prohibition. The funny thing is really all of your debate and howels of disapproval are pointless - the train is on the tracks and growers are a vast minority with very little power to determine what legislators do. Frankly I am kind of happy about that listening to the hysteria we are seeing here. Keep talking kids ---- it will get you no where. What will be done will be done. Oh and given over 50% of lab tested med is showing positive for chem PGRs Monsanto makes you cretins look ethical. Bring on legalisation!
 

shaggyballs

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So you think you should not have to pay taxes and should be allowed to drive while impaired ---- ? Do you think everything in life should be free also? Th epoint here is that this law exists regardless or will under legalisation or prohibition. The funny thing is really all of your debate and howels of disapproval are pointless - the train is on the tracks and growers are a vast minority with very little power to determine what legislators do. Frankly I am kind of happy about that listening to the hysteria we are seeing here. Keep talking kids ---- it will get you no where. What will be done will be done. Oh and given over 50% of lab tested med is showing positive for chem PGRs Monsanto makes you cretins look ethical. Bring on legalisation!
It is very strange a smart guy like you sees truth as hysteria.:biggrin:

No body even said impaired driving should be allowed ...Please feel free to quote if so???
This law states if you use cannabis you can not drive till it is completely out of your system, very clearly too.

That means waiting weeks or months after consumption before you are able to drive again.
Do you really think someone is impaired 1 week after consumption of cannabis?????
:laughing:

By your response is it safe to assume you approve of laws like this?
It is a fair question ...No?

the train is on the tracks and growers are a vast minority with very little power to determine what legislators do.
And you think the people should not even get a say in in the process of making the laws that govern us???
We should just do as we are told like sheeple????

In this country we still have the ability to vote those out of office that seek to create foolish laws.

And I feel we should stand and fight for what we believe is right, or die trying....No?
This is not a dictatorship ...Yet!!!
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mean mr.mustard

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So you think you should not have to pay taxes and should be allowed to drive while impaired ---- ? Do you think everything in life should be free also? Th epoint here is that this law exists regardless or will under legalisation or prohibition. The funny thing is really all of your debate and howels of disapproval are pointless - the train is on the tracks and growers are a vast minority with very little power to determine what legislators do. Frankly I am kind of happy about that listening to the hysteria we are seeing here. Keep talking kids ---- it will get you no where. What will be done will be done. Oh and given over 50% of lab tested med is showing positive for chem PGRs Monsanto makes you cretins look ethical. Bring on legalisation!

So you are saying you never questioned why you were paying taxes?

You really don't seem like the type to not break that down... at all.

Everything in life is free. Look around and ask yourself what you paid for.

The funny thing to me is you bitching about misspellings and then running roughshod through the same trench.

But that aside, some "howels" of disappointment are more for our fellows than for that of our opposition.

And if you really want to be frank... I don't think you are happy. And some of us aren't children.

Oh and admit you already found Monsanto ethical.

Who do you think sends in those samples??!!

It's most certainly not the greedy fuckers who want to monopolize their block(s).

Didn't mean to get all New Jack City....

Kid.
 

mean mr.mustard

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Don't know if you've noticed but any fool can grow weed. It actually takes some talent to put together pharmaceuticals. Sure let them patent ---- who cares. You can still grow weed.

Sorry for the double post but this is just killing me.

I don't think you noticed that I know fools are putting together pharmaceuticals with very little talent.

Give them patents... sure go ahead... :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be a big deal.

They wouldn't turn right back around and use any extra piles of cash to fund Congress to vote against any real research that may screw them out of a nickel's profit.

"Go ahead and sign right here.... oh sure I think you would probably be able to grow whatever whenever....

I mean it's like whatever you want: "Monsanto isn't the coolest just SIGN SIGN SIGN!!!"

Plant your whole yard full... We may just release a fuckton of patented pollen right next door.

It's so odd... we just acquired that property.

Seems the farmer violated our policy concerning patented GMO....

:chin:
 
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