Vote NO to legalize cannabis....Or else

[Can'tTouchThis]

I had a friend pulled over a couple of weeks in Colorado with 10 oz's in the car and a gun. They smelled weed and searched the car. The cops told him to get his gun registered with the state since he recently moved there from out of state and they sent him on his way. Pretty awesome. It really doesn't seem like the cops care at all if you're over limits of any kind.

 

[shaggyballs]

Newsflash... Farmer's generally don't garner that much money haha... If you manage the operation you will make more. That's better money then most of the trimmers/waterer's/grower slaves in california make in the end if you factor in the 60 hours a week of work and the amount they make in the end.

Let's be real here. Illegal growers are the only ones against legislation. Absolutely a false claim...They can't stop people's personal grows, No? HMMM!...so it essentially sounds like the only people upset are the ones making a "living" off of a supposed medicinal plant. More false accusations These same people are afraid of the government or monsanto screwing them over while they are busy lubing up the medicinal community haha.

News flash
You need to read the news!
Have you read this thread?
All the answers are here for your enjoyment.
Feel free to enlighten yourself if you so chose.

The main reason most people are against legalization is, the fact that they do not wish to be forced to obtain their medicine from COPS and Congressmen ect.
All this is here to read, if you wish to do so.
Stay informed my brother....seek the truth!

Shag

 

[shaggyballs]

I had a friend pulled over a couple of weeks in Colorado with 10 oz's in the car and a gun. They smelled weed and searched the car. The cops told him to get his gun registered with the state since he recently moved there from out of state and they sent him on his way. Pretty awesome. It really doesn't seem like the cops care at all if you're over limits of any kind.

If anyone thinks this will become the NORM, then they need to rethink their approach to life....Just my opinion.
Feel free to be free and do as you choose.
Shag

 

[The Doktor]

I think you have been smoking too much shitty weed shaggs. Paranoid much?

 

[glow]

I think you have been smoking too much shitty weed shaggs. Paranoid much?

Second that

 

[shaggyballs]

Naw,Not paranoid at all I am 100% legal.

I just like to know the truth.
Is that really being paranoid?
Feel free to start the personal attacks now!
It is what I have come to expect from certain people.
For those that seek the real truth just look around a bit, you will find it for yourself.
It gets old arguing with ignorance.

 

[Jhhnn]

Naw,Not paranoid at all I am 100% legal.

I just like to know the truth.
Is that really being paranoid?
Feel free to start the personal attacks now!
It is what I have come to expect from certain people.
For those that seek the real truth just look around a bit, you will find it for yourself.
It gets old arguing with ignorance.

Well, yeh, but those of us experiencing legalization in CO aren't ignorant at all. We live it. We've had two years of legalized possession & personal growing, also a few days shy of a full year of retail sales.

It's great. We never had it so good.

Some localities have a hard on for caregivers w/ extended plant counts, establish zoning ordinances against it & demand strict conformance to electric codes. That's the only real negative trend. Nobody goes to jail over it if they quit & pay the fines if there are any.

Legal personal growing means hands off truly small growers in general. They're not looking to bust you & obtaining a warrant strictly for growing is apparently a tough task. People have to be getting involved with officialdom on a different level to get hassled about it. Child welfare. Domestic violence. Dealing. Underage participants. Stealing power. Warrants. Setting the house on fire. Stupid shit. In Denver, you can get a minor ticket for minor stupid shit like blatantly toking on public property. That's a little weird- I can toke up on the front porch, but not on the sidewalk. Not that I'd do either.

People who buy the stuff & take it home like beer have no hassles, nor do people who treat it like brewing their own beer, either. Hell, I don't think they're looking to bust back yard grows, either.

If you're using CO law as cover to grow big for the black market, particularly if you're shipping out of state, they're looking to fuck you as hard as they can. Yeppers. If you have guns, they'll put weapons charges on top like a cherry on a milkshake.

Nothing new about that.

That's real life experience, not worrying about what might happen if.....

 

[mk6]

well said ^^^ every state should have this vary freedom!

being busted for cannibis is just fkn wrong! quit putting people in jail period!

 

[glow]

well said ^^^ every state should have this vary freedom!

being busted for cannibis is just fkn wrong! quit putting people in jail period!

^^^^

You bet - vote yes to any legalization Bill.

 

[glow]

Naw,Not paranoid at all I am 100% legal.

I just like to know the truth.
Is that really being paranoid?
Feel free to start the personal attacks now!
It is what I have come to expect from certain people.
For those that seek the real truth just look around a bit, you will find it for yourself.
It gets old arguing with ignorance.

^^^

Couldn't agree more - your ignorance is old.

 

[shaggyballs]

Did any of you even vote in the poll I posted?


So what your saying Jhhnn is people who go to jail for growing in other states.
And if the future holds a fine of $1,000 per plant that cool too as long as it wont happen to you.

People in states that legalized are still going to jail for not buying from the authorized dealers cops, former politicians.

Jhhnn for as active as you are politically, you play ignorant to what is really happening around you very well! you sir are one good danncer as we have danced aroud this issue over and over.

There are many more people who are not so fortunate to live in CO. that are very unhappy about their current situation.
Let us just ignore their cries for help shall we, thinks are warm and fuzzy in CO. so screw the rest.
Is this what you are really saying or shall we dance some more.

 

[glow]

Shaggy you know this fear mongering BS flew in Ca years back when the clowns voted no to legalization (note that dispensaries and other commercial interests were lobbying for no to legal cannabis because they had a lot to lose) . Times have changed - two states now legal and they're here telling you its all good. Fortunately today this shit just doesn't fly.

Wake up and smell the roses - me thinks your only motivation here is for your own commercial self interests.You're running a tired old race using the same fear mongering tactics that a few greedy bastards in Ca used - your Monsanto line is just lame and let's face it pal you completely constructed that story by editing and perverting the real story. Monsanto was never mentioned - you added their name.

 

[shaggyballs]

^^^

Couldn't agree more - your ignorance is old.

Dir sir

Might I make an observation?
It seem as though you have been assimilated!

In all your threads you condemn those who make statements such as yours without science and other documents to back up their statements.

And then you dismiss what others have to say on YOUR topics due to conjecture.

Yet your first statement to me is a personal attack.
Your second in opinion and conjecture.

I am sorry to say you are looking much like those you condemn on a regular basis.

A little strange in my mind?
Are you not the highly regarded whistle blower we have all come to know and love.

Also:
Dear sir, may I politely ask did you even read the thread?
If so, do you still not feel the evidence before you is enough to see that the people are being lied to?
Home growing is being eliminated.

This is very strange coming from you as I once though you were trying to see through all the corporate lies being told to us?

This sort of this can make one wonder.....

Just my observation.
I will not try to match wits with you, as I am out gunned..LOL
I have trouble dancing with Jhhnn that cat is smooth!
But TRUTH is king!


Shag

 

[glow]

Dir sir

Might I make an observation?
It seem as though you have been assimilated!

In all your threads you condemn those who make statements such as yours without science and other documents to back up their statements.

And then you dismiss what others have to say on YOUR topics due to conjecture.

Yet your first statement to me is a personal attack.
Your second in opinion and conjecture.

I am sorry to say you are looking much like those you condemn on a regular basis.

A little strange in my mind?
Are you not the highly regarded whistle blower we have all come to know and love.

Also:
Dear sir, may I politely ask did you even read the thread?
If so, do you still not feel the evidence before you is enough to see that the people are being lied to?
Home growing is being eliminated.

This is very strange coming from you as I once though you were trying to see through all the corporate lies being told to us?

This sort of this can make one wonder.....

Just my observation.
I will not try to match wits with you, as I am out gunned..LOL
I have trouble dancing with Jhhnn that cat is smooth!
But TRUTH is king!


Shag

Shaggy you've lost it pal. That much is clear. Good luck with the perversion of facts, Fortunately most here are clever enough to see right through you. You'd be right - the truth is king. Always take the high moral ground. In your case you took the low moral ground and as a result nothing you say is credible thereafter.

PS - you'd note that I have a track record of exposing those who take the low moral ground Therefore my actions and words are entirely consistent. Yours, on the other hand, are entirely inconsistent.

 

[shaggyballs]

Shaggy you know this fear mongering BS flew in Ca years back when the clowns voted no to legalization (note that dispensaries and other commercial interests were lobbying for no to legal cannabis because they had a lot to lose) . Times have changed - two states now legal and they're here telling you its all good. Fortunately today this shit just doesn't fly.

Wake up and smell the roses - me thinks your only motivation here is for your own commercial self interests.You're running a tired old race using the same fear mongering tactics that a few greedy bastards in Ca used - your Monsanto line is just lame and let's face it pal you completely constructed that story by editing and perverting the real story. Monsanto was never mentioned - you added their name.

You sir are a very smart cat .
But sorry to say you can't be right all the time.
You got me pegged all wrong, but you may think as you wish.
I only hope to preserve home growing and limit big monopolies.

Again I state, dear sir....Did you read the thread.
The facts are in plain site.
If you are against that, then what are you really standing for??

All I am saying is give the power to the people is that really too much?
I am not the only one.
I must say GLOW I thought this sort of talk was what you stood against
I guess I need to reform my opinion as you action are very conflicting at this point.

And now is where you may continue your personal attack.
Completely avoiding the issue....strange you state many time how this is childish and unproductive.
Yet here you are engaging is just the activities that you have such distaste for.

Some call this a flip flopper...others.....well I won't go there!

 

[glow]

You sir are a very smart cat .
But sorry to say you can't be right all the time.
You got me pegged all wrong, but you may think as you wish.
I only hope to preserve home growing and limit big monopolies.

Again I state, dear sir....Did you read the thread.
The facts are in plain site.
If you are against that, then what are you really standing for??

All I am saying is give the power to the people is that really too much?
I am not the only one.
I must say GLOW I thought this sort of talk was what you stood against
I guess I need to reform my opinion as you action are very conflicting at this point.

And now is where you may continue your personal attack.
Completely avoiding the issue....strange you state many time how this is childish and unproductive.
Yet here you are engaging is just the activities that you have such distaste for.

Some call this a flip flopper...others.....well I won't go there!

Shaggy - whose facts? Your facts? Or the real facts? You place an extremely interesting spin on facts (i.e. spin facts by adding facts that weren't there to begin with).

Oh and what you think about me is extremely irrelevant. I wake up every morning, look at myself in the mirror, and smile knowing deviants and miscreants hate my guts. I actually hope that you hate my guts LOL

 

[shaggyballs]

Shaggy you've lost it pal. That much is clear. Good luck with the perversion of facts, Fortunately most here are clever enough to see right through you. You'd be right - the truth is king. Always take the high moral ground. In your case you took the low moral ground and as a result nothing you say is credible thereafter.

PS - you'd note that I have a track record of exposing those who take the low moral ground Therefore my actions and words are entirely consistent. Yours, on the other hand, are entirely inconsistent.

I state clearly that I stand for home growing and you stand against me correct?
And then you say I lost it, and it is clear.

SO let me get this straight, are you really saying that you feel standing for home growing rights, and giving power to to people is morally wrong? (your words were morally low)
As This is what your current statements indicate.

If you even scanned this thread you would see I state this many many times.
Come on GLOW you are a smart guy, did you even read the thread.
It is all black and white.

It is very strange how this sort of thing is not tolerated by you in your threads.

But you are the one, going against what you say you believe.
Again I state I do not wish to match wits with you as I stated.
I know when i am out gunned.

It would be good to know where you stand on home growing.
And letting people have the power to decide where they get their medicine.

This is what I stand for...you seem to stand against these beliefs.
And this really puzzles me.
I ask myself....He is a very smart guy,,,,why can he not see the truth before him??

If you want tell me why you think home growing is a bad thing.
You may also tell me why big monopolies should control cannabis.
Feel free to set me straight on these important topics if you wish.
As you would say, stay on topic...LOL

So address the 2 questions i posed.
Or just go back to the personal attacks...if that floats your boat!

 

[glow]

I state clearly that I stand for home growing and you stand against me correct?
And then you say I lost it, and it is clear.

SO let me get this straight, are you really saying that you feel standing for home growing rights, and giving power to to people is morally wrong? (your words were morally low)
As This is what your current statements indicate.

If you even scanned this thread you would see I state this many many times.
Come on GLOW you are a smart guy, did you even read the thread.
It is all black and white.

It is very strange how this sort of thing is not tolerated by you in your threads.

But you are the one, going against what you say you believe.
Again I state I do not wish to match wits with you as I stated.
I know when i am out gunned.

It would be good to know where you stand on home growing.
And letting people have the power to decide where they get their medicine.

This is what I stand for...you seem to stand against these beliefs.
And this really puzzles me.
I ask myself....He is a very smart guy,,,,why can he not see the truth before him??

If you want tell me why you think home growing is a bad thing.
You may also tell me why big monopolies should control cannabis.
Feel free to set me straight on these important topics if you wish.
As you would say, stay on topic...LOL

So address the 2 questions i posed.
Or just go back to the personal attacks...if that floats your boat!

Correct me if I'm wrong Shaggy but in legalizing they haven't overturned med laws. Is this correct?

What they have done is protect people from persecution and prosecution for possession offenses correct?

What this means is that people will not be persecuted or prosecuted at the whim of jack booted, gun carrying thugs correct? What this means is people who would have incurred criminal records and for that matter been incarcerated are no longer subject to a regime of oppression... correct?

At which point did they hand over cultivating to large commercial interests? Correct me if I'm wrong but large commercial interests would not be interested in staking millions of dollars while cultivation is still a federal offense.... correct? Therefore, any move on the part of large commercial interests would only occur after federal legalization... correct?

Now Shaggy, wake up and smell the roses. No doubt if and when federal legalization does occur large commercial interests will become involved and monopolies will be formed. Sorry mate but if you believe otherwise then you are living in lala land and understand nothing about capitalism. Let's face it mate these monopolies are already attempting to form and psssst it isn't Monsanto but the likes of Harborside that you need to look out for. I was in Oakland during the legalization fiasco when dispensaries were making bids for mega grows. What a shit show that was. Same pricks who were lobbying against legalization were trying to protect their interests and nothing else. That makes them as evil as Monsanto in my books.

However, when and if federal legalization does occur the whole single narcotics convention isn't worth the paper it is written on and millions of people worldwide will no longer face prison for cannabis offenses but here you are saying vote no to legalization. Yeah pal - of course i support you. I am a self serving scum bag who wishes to self loathe each time I look in the mirror

 

[shaggyballs]

Shaggy - whose facts? Your facts? Or the real facts? You place an extremely interesting spin on facts (i.e. spin facts by adding facts that weren't there to begin with).
Could you please give me an example?

Oh and what you think about me is extremely irrelevant. I wake up every morning, look at myself in the mirror, and smile knowing deviants and miscreants hate my guts. I actually hope that you hate my guts LOL
Ok now I am in the deviants and miscreants.And you hope I hate you.
Why would you say such a thing.
I thought I gave you many compliments, as I have much admiration for your work.
Did I say something to you I don't remember?
You sure have your mind made up about me and we never even spoke before now
Why all the hate, What did I do to you??

This sort of this is where i get confused.
Also:
Where in this thread am I treading even close to immoral ground as you suggest.
Could you please give an example here for reference to your point.
Maybe you could also be more clear as to what you are standing against.....this is a long thread.

I know you are extremely smart, without a doubt.
But you are being extremely vague, this is not like you?
I am very confused, I only see personal hatred in your posts.
But you and I never spoke, yet you act as if I slept with your wife.
Why, I ask again Why?
What is your motivation?

 

[glow]

This sort of this is where i get confused.
Also:
Where in this thread am I treading even close to immoral ground as you suggest.
Could you please give an example here for reference to your point.
Maybe you could also be more clear as to what you are standing against.....this is a long thread.

I know you are extremely smart, without a doubt.
But you are being extremely vague, this is not like you?
I am very confused, I only see personal hatred in your posts.
But you and I never spoke, yet you act as if I slept with your wife.
Why, I ask again Why?
What is your motivation?

You're giving yourself far too much credit Shaggy - I have no feelings about you whatsoever. It is more a case of what you stand for and what you represent. Any fool who votes no to legalization of any form is a shit bird who has no right to be associated to a culture which has fought hook line and sinker at great cost for legalization. You're a disgrace to a cause that has every right to be proud because WE have put our bodies and freedom on the line to fight an abhorrent wrong only to have sell out pricks who claim to represent that culture spin lies and disinformation to maintain a system of oppression and violence against cannabis users.Prob is mate you have no sense of morality and right and wrong and therefore you can't even conceive of what I am saying when discussing taking the low moral ground. Either way pal, move aside... legalization is coming.