That attitude seems a bit myopic, when you consider that MMJ is on the ballot in FL, a stronghold of the deep south. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I just don't happen to think ANY cannabis bill on a ballot in the deep south lame-ass.
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Vote NO to legalize cannabis....Or else
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That attitude seems a bit myopic, when you consider that MMJ is on the ballot in FL, a stronghold of the deep south. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I just don't happen to think ANY cannabis bill on a ballot in the deep south lame-ass.
like he said considering where we are. every step is a step in the right direction.
Agreed!
FL winning their MMJ rights will set the south and the rest of nation steamrolling the reform movement.
I've been asked(rudely of course) what I will do when weed prices drop to $600-800 an lb upon legalization.
Grow 4 times more is my answer.
Hell! In 1980 lbs of any kind of indoor grown green bud was fetching $3,600.
34 years later, $1,600 for high grade green.
$600 a lb, no big deal.
Only difference, with a proper license, and HARD work, good growers will still make a decent living.
But not going to jail, not getting your kids and property seized, not having your whole world turned upside down, that's priceless.
I guess an open free market, with competition driving prices down scares people.
Yeah that too... and rightly so.
Hello all,
As an added thought...a regulated market cuts into profits through taxation....I think that is a driving factor for the whales in the game also as well as the closet neighborhood grower/dealer. God forbid that taxes be paid on income right?
minds_I
By my estimates in 37 yrs paying taxes.
I've paid over $200,000 in various payroll taxes.
Throw in property taxes.
Add another $75,000 on property that I bought for $60,000.
Right now on a paid for home, costs nearly $400 a month.
I bitch about it, and rightly so, Why? Cause I pay them!
I earned the right.
Taxes are a necessary evil, and wish I didn't have to pay them.
Weird though, I enjoy driving on roads, a good school system, medicare for my mom, etc.
So! I'll continue to pay taxes for legal grown weed, and as a bonus, I'll never have to take a drug test to keep my job.
There's no way anyone's gonna stop legalization.
May as well accept the inevitable
I've paid over $200,000 in various payroll taxes.
Throw in property taxes.
Add another $75,000 on property that I bought for $60,000.
Right now on a paid for home, costs nearly $400 a month.
I bitch about it, and rightly so, Why? Cause I pay them!
I earned the right.
Taxes are a necessary evil, and wish I didn't have to pay them.
Weird though, I enjoy driving on roads, a good school system, medicare for my mom, etc.
So! I'll continue to pay taxes for legal grown weed, and as a bonus, I'll never have to take a drug test to keep my job.
There's no way anyone's gonna stop legalization.
May as well accept the inevitable
monsoon
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So! I'll continue to pay taxes for legal grown weed, and as a bonus, I'll never have to take a drug test to keep my job.
Then you better hope that the voters in your state pass laws that not only allow you to grow at home but that also protect you in the workplace.
Here in CO, neither med use or rec use is protected in the work place.
I'm retired from the rat race.
Union construction worker for most of my work career.
Now I just grow medicinally(of course)
I'm my boss, and my boss says no drug tests.
You are correct though, no protection from drug tests.
It will be curious, when the economy gets into high gear, and employers unable to find "clean" employees, wonder what will happen.
Union construction worker for most of my work career.
Now I just grow medicinally(of course)
I'm my boss, and my boss says no drug tests.
You are correct though, no protection from drug tests.
It will be curious, when the economy gets into high gear, and employers unable to find "clean" employees, wonder what will happen.
I am not afraid of the competition so much as government regulation. My state wants to go to one grower if the schedule listing is changed. And the company is from Canada.
That is what I don't like. If the government just leaves everyone alone so be it. But they will tax it so high and regulate so that they might as well have made it illegal again. I have zero faith in government because it has proven time and time again that they will get out of control. Then if you don't do what they want you will be a criminal.
That is what I don't like. If the government just leaves everyone alone so be it. But they will tax it so high and regulate so that they might as well have made it illegal again. I have zero faith in government because it has proven time and time again that they will get out of control. Then if you don't do what they want you will be a criminal.
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I would have no issue voting for something like what DC just passed.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The national marijuana legalization debate is moving into the backyard of a Republican-controlled Congress, now that the District of Columbia has voted to legalize growing, possessing and sharing small amounts of pot.
Voters in Oregon and Alaska also approved legalization initiatives, joining Colorado and Washington state, where pot is already legally available.
But while states out West enjoy both autonomy and distance, federal lawmakers have the power to quash any District law they don't like. And with legalization getting a foothold on the East Coast for the first time, the District's initiative could force Congress to make decisions affecting the future of legal pot nationwide.
"Members of Congress are literally going to be witness to these changes," said Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance, which spent heavily to push all three ballot initiatives. "It's a form of educating the members of Congress in a way that some members would not get educated, depending on the states that they're from."
All laws in the nation's capital are sent to Capitol Hill for review. Congress rarely invokes that power, but when members do want to block District policies, they can attach amendments to unrelated, omnibus legislation too critical to be vetoed. Congress routinely bars the spending of local tax dollars on abortions for poor women using this strategy, and delayed medical marijuana in the District for more than a decade.
The District voted 69-31 percent Tuesday to approve the growing, possessing or sharing of up to two ounces of pot and up to three mature marijuana plants for personal use. Months earlier, a decriminalization law took effect, limiting the penalty for possession of a personal-use amount to a $25 ticket.
But it could take months at least before pot-smoking is totally OK in the District. Elected officials and advocates can't even agree whether the Congressional review period lasts 30 days while the House and Senate are both in session, or 60.
Also, the initiative doesn't provide for the legal sale or taxation of marijuana.
Democratic mayor-elect Muriel Bowser said Wednesday that she won't let it take effect until the D.C. Council implements rules that she said could be "similar to how we tax and regulate alcohol."
D.C. Cannabis Campaign chairman Adam Eidinger vowed to challenge any delay, which he said could thwart the will of the voters for years. Colorado allowed home cultivation for more than a year before its first marijuana dispensaries opened, he noted.
"Three plants or less doesn't need to be taxed and regulated," he said. "They don't regulate people who brew their own beer."
The incoming mayor has no immediate power over the initiative but once she takes office in January she could introduce a bill that delays implementation until a regulatory scheme is enacted.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The national marijuana legalization debate is moving into the backyard of a Republican-controlled Congress, now that the District of Columbia has voted to legalize growing, possessing and sharing small amounts of pot.
Voters in Oregon and Alaska also approved legalization initiatives, joining Colorado and Washington state, where pot is already legally available.
But while states out West enjoy both autonomy and distance, federal lawmakers have the power to quash any District law they don't like. And with legalization getting a foothold on the East Coast for the first time, the District's initiative could force Congress to make decisions affecting the future of legal pot nationwide.
"Members of Congress are literally going to be witness to these changes," said Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance, which spent heavily to push all three ballot initiatives. "It's a form of educating the members of Congress in a way that some members would not get educated, depending on the states that they're from."
All laws in the nation's capital are sent to Capitol Hill for review. Congress rarely invokes that power, but when members do want to block District policies, they can attach amendments to unrelated, omnibus legislation too critical to be vetoed. Congress routinely bars the spending of local tax dollars on abortions for poor women using this strategy, and delayed medical marijuana in the District for more than a decade.
The District voted 69-31 percent Tuesday to approve the growing, possessing or sharing of up to two ounces of pot and up to three mature marijuana plants for personal use. Months earlier, a decriminalization law took effect, limiting the penalty for possession of a personal-use amount to a $25 ticket.
But it could take months at least before pot-smoking is totally OK in the District. Elected officials and advocates can't even agree whether the Congressional review period lasts 30 days while the House and Senate are both in session, or 60.
Also, the initiative doesn't provide for the legal sale or taxation of marijuana.
Democratic mayor-elect Muriel Bowser said Wednesday that she won't let it take effect until the D.C. Council implements rules that she said could be "similar to how we tax and regulate alcohol."
D.C. Cannabis Campaign chairman Adam Eidinger vowed to challenge any delay, which he said could thwart the will of the voters for years. Colorado allowed home cultivation for more than a year before its first marijuana dispensaries opened, he noted.
"Three plants or less doesn't need to be taxed and regulated," he said. "They don't regulate people who brew their own beer."
The incoming mayor has no immediate power over the initiative but once she takes office in January she could introduce a bill that delays implementation until a regulatory scheme is enacted.
I know the culture is shifting quickly, many folks now see cannabis as much less harmful then alcohol. To me that is a sign of something working
It was a good result...
Washington, D.C. Initiative 71, which legalizes possession, home cultivation, and sharing of marijuana but not commercial production or distribution.
Oregon. Measure 91, which legalizes the recreational marijuana business along with possession and home cultivation.
on the other hand
Alaska. Private possession of marijuana for personal use has been legal in Alaska since 1975, but cannabis consumers there still have no legal place to buy it. nor the right to cultivate it.
Florida. Amendment 2 Failed, it was favored by most voters but fell three points short of the 60 percent needed for a "super majority"
Washington, D.C. Initiative 71, which legalizes possession, home cultivation, and sharing of marijuana but not commercial production or distribution.
Oregon. Measure 91, which legalizes the recreational marijuana business along with possession and home cultivation.
on the other hand
Alaska. Private possession of marijuana for personal use has been legal in Alaska since 1975, but cannabis consumers there still have no legal place to buy it. nor the right to cultivate it.
Florida. Amendment 2 Failed, it was favored by most voters but fell three points short of the 60 percent needed for a "super majority"
final number was 58/42 but yeah majority still loses because it wasn't overwhelming. i thought for sure those kids would have gotten out to vote. needed more campaigning to younger voters. i mean the numbers are simply on our side. more young with each generation. the voters who just turned 18 are like 4-5 generations from the oldest voters. this shoulda won. i am ashamed.
I am very pleased with the progress we have seen as well, but Alaskans do get to grow 6 plants legally under this scheme.
These 6 plant limits are silly, but getting a warrant becomes much harder, and there will never be enough police to count plants!
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Newsflash... Farmer's generally don't garner that much money haha... If you manage the operation you will make more. That's better money then most of the trimmers/waterer's/grower slaves in california make in the end if you factor in the 60 hours a week of work and the amount they make in the end.
Let's be real here. Illegal growers are the only ones against legislation. They can't stop people's personal grows, so it essentially sounds like the only people upset are the ones making a "living" off of a supposed medicinal plant. These same people are afraid of the government or monsanto screwing them over while they are busy lubing up the medicinal community haha.
At least the 35,000 dollar workers can also LEGALLY put their money away in a bank account and have it go towards their retirements.
I'm thinking of a person who did a bunch of labor this season in california for a commercial grower who will be lucky if they make 35,000 total for nearly 2/3 of a year worth of work lol.
I'd stick with my real job that actually pays far more then a measly 19 bucks an hour in the end!
I'm thinking of a person who did a bunch of labor this season in california for a commercial grower who will be lucky if they make 35,000 total for nearly 2/3 of a year worth of work lol.
I'd stick with my real job that actually pays far more then a measly 19 bucks an hour in the end!
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