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:::::::USA Set to Reschedule Cannabis::::::: HHS Releases Recommendation Documents:::::::

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That news story happened a while ago and I have seen it in other articles. The family failed to comply with a simple order because she didn't want the children to be mistreated. So she failed to comply and thats part of why they were taken into custody, however this situation was all due to cannabis possession.
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Thank you for posting this. It's very sad and very telling of the mindset of the heavily indoctrinated
anti-freedom authority worshipping State employees. In any kind of a sane world, people would recognize this for it is, kidnapping.

Nothing those braindead assholes do surprises me though, ultimately any continued disobedience, even the smallest one, to the State, is punishable by death. "Failing to comply" with an order to hand your kids over is an act of bravery. What a horrible situation for the parents and kids.
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It's not fair to those who can't do what they want.
Even all of these have stupid limits.
States that currently allow people to grow their own marijuana plants include: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia and the District of Columbia.
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You are absolutely correct, no aspect of prohibition has ever been fair.

I allow myself to grow marijuana and I am the only authority over me as long as I am not harming another person or their justly acquired property.

This reminds me of a few years back when a Governor was patting himself on the back for "pardoning former weed "criminals". I would have told him to get fucked, I don't need or want your pardon, stick it up your ass. I did nothing wrong, it is and always was government agents (control freak people) who did the wrong thing, not me. It is US, the former weed "criminals" that they should be asking for forgiveness from.

Moral of the story, legality and illegality do not mirror right and wrong.
 
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DEA Schedules Hearing On Marijuana Rescheduling, Delaying Reform Until After Election

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) has scheduled a hearing to consider differing expert opinions on the Justice Department’s proposal to federally reschedule marijuana—an extra procedural step that will take place after the November election. After moving to reclassify cannabis as a...
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DEA Schedules Hearing On Marijuana Rescheduling, Delaying Reform Until After Election​

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The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) has scheduled a hearing to consider differing expert opinions on the Justice Department’s proposal to federally reschedule marijuana—an extra procedural step that will take place after the November election.
After moving to reclassify cannabis as a Schedule III drug under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) back in March, DOJ opened a 60-day public comment period that saw more than 4o,000 submissions. Now that DEA has reviewed the comments, it agreed to an administrative hearing, as requested by several supporters and opponents of the reform.
The hearing will be held on December 2, according to a notice set to be published in the Federal Register on Thursday.

While some advocates and stakeholders had hoped that DEA would avoid this additional step and simply move to final rulemaking, the agency has often scheduled hearings for regulatory proposals of major public interest. And rescheduling cannabis for the first time since it was designated as Schedule I over 50 years ago evidently met that standard.
That said, the hearing adds some uncertainty about the potential rescheduling timeline. There are some concerns this means the rulemaking process will not be completed before January, which could mean an administrative changeup after the November election that theoretically could affect the rescheduling process.

DEA’s latest filing notes that the proposed rulemaking notice that was issued in March said that, “if the transfer to schedule III is finalized, the regulatory controls applicable to schedule III controlled substances would apply, as appropriate, along with existing marijuana-specific requirements and any additional controls that might be implemented, including those that might be implemented to meet U.S. treaty obligations.”
“If marijuana is transferred into schedule III, the manufacture, distribution, dispensing, and possession of marijuana would remain subject to the applicable criminal prohibitions of the CSA. Any drugs containing a substance within the CSA’s definition of ‘marijuana’ would also remain subject to the applicable prohibition in the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FDCA).”

DEA also laid out next steps in the process, explaining that interested parties that may be “adversely affected or aggrieved” by the policy change must submit a notice of intent to participate in the hearing to the agency within 30 days of the formal publication of this filing.
The notice was signed by DEA Administrator Anne Milgram, who notably did not sign the initial proposed rescheduling rule. She said that after the agency received notices of intent to participate in the hearing, she will “assess the notices submitted and make a determination of participants.”
“Following that assessment, I will designate a presiding officer to preside over the hearing,” Milgram said. That presiding officer “will have all powers necessary to conduct a fair hearing, to take all necessary action to avoid delay, and to maintain order.”

“The presiding officer’s authorities include the power to hold conferences to simplify or determine the issues in the hearing or to consider other matters that may aid in the expeditious disposition of the hearing; require parties to state their position in writing; sign and issue subpoenas to compel the production of documents and materials to the extent necessary to conduct the hearing; examine witnesses and direct witnesses to testify; receive, rule on, exclude, or limit evidence; rule on procedural items; and take any action permitted by the presiding officer under DEA’s hearing procedures and the APA.”

DEA has already made clear that it feels additional information is needed on a number of topics related to the scientific review into marijuana that led to the reclassification recommendation. Some view the scheduling of the hearing as more evidence of DEA skepticism.
In Congress, numerous lawmakers have shared their own perspectives on the proposed reform with DEA and DOJ since the Schedule III announcement was made.
In August, for example, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) raised concerns about the Biden administration’s justification for recommending marijuana rescheduling—demanding answers to questions from federal agencies about how they arrived at that decision in what he described as a rushed and unconventional administrative process.
A week earlier, top Democratic senators—including Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY)—sent a separate letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland and DEA Administrator Anne Milgram urging the agencies to ”promptly finalize” the rule to reschedule marijuana.

While rescheduling would remove certain research barriers and free up state-licensed cannabis business to take federal tax deductions under the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) code known as 280E, it would not federally legalize marijuana, as the Congressional Research Service (CRS) has made known in multiple recent reports.
Meanwhile, two additional congressional lawmakers have joined the ranks of GOP members who are challenging what they say is the “unusual” process that led the Biden administration to propose rescheduling marijuana, expressing concern about how the review was carried out and demanding answers.

Rep. Doug LaMalfa (R-CA) condemned the Biden administration’s push to reclassify marijuana, as well as legislative efforts to enact bipartisan cannabis banking reform, because he says the policy changes would “prop up this immoral industry” and give a “green light to the evil that comes from drug use.”
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA) also blasted the Biden administration over what he described as repeated refusals from federal agencies to brief Congress on its plans and justification for rescheduling marijuana, which he argues fuels speculation that the proposed policy change is politically motivated.
Similarly, 25 GOP congressional lawmakers sent a public comment letter in July opposing the administration’s planned rescheduling of marijuana, specifically alleging the government’s recommendation was based on politics rather than science.
At the Republican National Committee convention last month, multiple GOP lawmakers spoke with Marijuana Moment about their own views on how cannabis policy issues such as rescheduling could be impacted if former President Donald Trump wins the November election. They generally deferred to the nominee, but there were mixed opinions about what they would like to see happen.

Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD), for his part, said at the event that “I don’t care” whether rolling back the Biden administration’s marijuana rescheduling move under a potential Trump presidency would hurt the Republican party, because he feels more strongly that the modest reform would endanger public health.
Also, bipartisan congressional lawmakers are seeking to remove a controversial section of a spending bill that would block the Justice Department from rescheduling marijuana—one of several cannabis- and psychedelics-related amendments to appropriations legislation.
GOP senators have separately tried to block the administration from rescheduling cannabis as part of a standalone bill filed last September, but that proposal has not received a hearing or vote.
Meanwhile, in one public comment on the proposed rule, a group representing state-level cannabis regulators recently called on the Biden administration and DEA administrator to provide a clear explanation of how rescheduling marijuana would affect federal enforcement priorities and the U.S. government’s interaction with jurisdictions that regulate cannabis products.
A series of recent polls shows widespread majority support for marijuana legalization, rescheduling and cannabis industry banking access among likely voters in three key presidential battleground states: Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.
 
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Taxation without representation? Why are the lawmakers not holding open hearings in congress?

Contact your lawmaker and ask them to hold hearings in our represenative lawmaking body, congress.

These types of significant lawmaking actions shouldn't be done by the unelected federal agencies.

Personally contacted my lawmakers in late winter about this issue.
 
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Hopefully the newly elected body will correct this in 2025 by taking some action.

Thats probably what the DEA is hoping for, because they don't want to be the ones to make these decisions for cannabis policy reform. They're being forced to because of lack of action by the legislature.
 
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Congressional Researchers Say It’s ‘Likely’ Marijuana Will Be Rescheduled, But It Wouldn’t Fix Federal-State Policy Gap

It “appears likely” that the federal government will reschedule marijuana, congressional researchers say in a new report. But Congress still has the authority to address the federal-state cannabis policy gap “before or after” that reform is enacted. Days after the Justice Department announced...
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"CRS said that potential legislative options for Congress include implementing “more or less stringent marijuana control, ranging from pushing for federal law enforcement to dismantle state medical and recreational marijuana programs to limiting federal marijuana regulation through means such as appropriations provisions, to rescheduling or de-controlling marijuana under the CSA.”


“This last option would largely eliminate the gap with states that have authorized recreational and comprehensive medical marijuana,” the report says. “As Congress considers these questions, states may continue to act on marijuana legalization. No state has reversed its legalization of either medical or recreational marijuana at this time.” "
 
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The request to look at reform went out from President Biden Oct 2022. So it has taken 2 years to finally get a hearing on cannabis reform.
 
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Biden’s Marijuana Clemency Action Is Most Popular Of All Presidential Pardons In U.S. History, Poll Finds

President Joe Biden’s mass marijuana pardons are the most popular acts of presidential clemency in U.S. history—with bipartisan majorities in favor of forgiving people with prior cannabis possession offenses—according to a new poll. The YouGov survey released on Monday asked respondents whether...
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Thanks for posting this. As I mentioned in my semi-rant above, (okay it was an actual rant...lol) this is an EXCEEDINGLY ironic policy. On the surface many people see this political move as a good thing, but a closer look reveals the fuckiness and twisted nature of it.

On one hand blanket pardons granted from high above are easy to recognize as political pandering to get votes and pushes the narrative that "forgiveness" from the government will make a person whole again etc.
On the other hand, it inverts logic, decency and common sense. People that were arrested, stolen from and generally all around fucked with by government agents aren't the people that need to be forgiven.

The people that DID the harm to the arrestees are the ones that should be seeking forgiveness.
In any other situation, it's the person or group of persons that initiate the harm, that are the bad people in need of forgiving.

Prohibitionist legislators, cops, prosecutors, jailers, etc. are the ones that need to get down on their knees and beg to be forgiven. Lots of States will STILL gladly arrest you for coloring outside their lines.

This is part of a greater control freak narrative encompassing cannabis wherein our natural rights are shifted into a kind of government granted revokable privilege. As if people need permission from "them" to control what they can consume or grow. It paves the road to loss of other freedoms.

"All is forgiven, as long as you continue to obey us". "We forgive you for all that shit we did to people like you". "Now, it's okay for you to have a couple of plants in your backyard, we give you permission"

Screw the Orwellian double speak. Free the weed...completely.
 
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Captain Red Eye said:
Thanks for posting this. As I mentioned in my semi-rant above, (okay it was an actual rant...lol) this is an EXCEEDINGLY ironic policy. On the surface many people see this political move as a good thing, but a closer look reveals the fuckiness and twisted nature of it.

On one hand blanket pardons granted from high above are easy to recognize as political pandering to get votes and pushes the narrative that "forgiveness" from the government will make a person whole again etc.
On the other hand, it inverts logic, decency and common sense. People that were arrested, stolen from and generally all around fucked with by government agents aren't the people that need to be forgiven.

The people that DID the harm to the arrestees are the ones that should be seeking forgiveness.
In any other situation, it's the person or group of persons that initiate the harm, that are the bad people in need of forgiving.

Prohibitionist legislators, cops, prosecutors, jailers, etc. are the ones that need to get down on their knees and beg to be forgiven. Lots of States will STILL gladly arrest you for coloring outside their lines.

This is part of a greater control freak narrative encompassing cannabis wherein our natural rights are shifted into a kind of government granted revokable privilege. As if people need permission from "them" to control what they can consume or grow. It paves the road to loss of other freedoms.

"All is forgiven, as long as you continue to obey us". "We forgive you for all that shit we did to people like you". "Now, it's okay for you to have a couple of plants in your backyard, we give you permission"

Screw the Orwellian double speak. Free the weed...completely.
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On the state level it seems like some states are "asking forgiveness" for the prior transgressions by adding a "social equity" component to licensing. Minnesota for example is giving first preference in doling out licenses to those who actually have been convicted of weed crimes. I wonder if that's a "we forgive you" or "we're sorry, forgive us" or maybe it's a bit of both.

I think with many licenses, a freedom is taken away by the govt and then sold back.

Apparently the latest news is that the DEA, an unelected "agency", is going to wait to decide how it will rule the people in regards to rescheduling until after the election.... It also recently rattled its sabre and warned people that regardless of individual state's laws pro or con for weed, the feds can arrest anyone for Fed weed crimes up to and including simple possession (even though it said that's not it's focus at present).
 
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On the state level it seems like some states are "asking forgiveness" for the prior transgressions by adding a "social equity" component to licensing. Minnesota for example is giving first preference in doling out licenses to those who actually have been convicted of weed crimes. I wonder if that's a "we forgive you" or "we're sorry, forgive us" or maybe it's a bit of both.

I think with many licenses, a freedom is taken away by the govt and then sold back.

Apparently the latest news is that the DEA, an unelected "agency", is going to wait to decide how it will rule the people in regards to rescheduling until after the election.... It also recently rattled its sabre and warned people that regardless of individual state's laws pro or con for weed, the feds can arrest anyone for Fed weed crimes up to and including simple possession (even though it said that's not it's focus at present).
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They did that shit in Oregon, it lasted less than 6 months of a 2 year period. Then they all cashed out, now the gov [democrat] is balls deep in this place called LaMota [under FBI investigation] .....they also just had to relegislate themselves out of fenty crisis as well.....Democracts in Oregon, have fucked legal, since the beginning.
 
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Yeah being thinking over this one for months now and its come down to it...

Agencies being given new powers and authority to make law/rules regarding health and medicine is outside the US Constitution. The authority actually belongs to the individual states if not explicitly given to the federal government in the constitution to limit the size and power of the US government.

The new type of framework of government will result in the loss of more natural rights. Look at what happened with COVID 19. The mainstream media has control of the narrative for some people, and that is part of the power structure.

Also selective enforcement allows them to go after political activists.

Cannabis prohibition is a tool in the hand of the politicians which they will use to gain power for themselves.

The legislators care little about the wellbeing and medical needs of the people of this nation.
 
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Look at these gutless lawmakers. They tweet but seldom take any real action. Blumenauer has been a great advocate for cannabis reform.

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DEA Pushing Marijuana Rescheduling Past Election Is ‘Incredibly Disappointing,’ Congressman Says As Stakeholders React To Hearing

The Drug Enforcement Administration’s (DEA) decision to schedule a public hearing on the Biden administration’s proposal to reschedule marijuana in December, after the election, has been met with mixed reactions. Congressional lawmakers, industry stakeholders and advocates are sharing a range of...
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