U.K cheese brightside cut ?

[englishrick]

That's the ticket bro,, all mine are looking near dead or gone,, i get ya, good connect

 

[mack 10]

@rick,. You really thought I was mate Dave?
Dude I'm disappointed,
No disrespect to MD.

My area had blues/livers on lock since day dot.
I didn't source non of my cuts but one
(Blues wise) online.

Post more later, gotta run.

An the Mack's Blues is my creation,
Not a re named livers.
There are threads on all this hidden
Right on IC mag.

 

[mack 10]

Try saying blues/livers in a conversation and you soon realise it's an Internet name,,

You obviously don't live in the Midlands.

 

[mack 10]

Anyone else remember the Mr livers story from Cannaboy/matedave,,,it was actually mate dave who made the livers suffix perpetual,, i just didn't know they were different at the time I used the /,, now its part of the name and the story lol,, don't be silly

No offence to you skotty you seem like your trying to fly straight,, an if your clones come totally independently of icmag I have tons of respect for that shit,, but if your clone came though the guys I just mentioned I'd hesitate on the truth about where it came from an who put it there,, just think the name mate dave,, is it a name you trust

I thought they where diff people?

Can't remember if it was Mr L or his crew that put the name on to differentiate against other cuts.
Last I heard he had retired to Jamaica/west indies.

I remember all that bs with cannaboy
Or whoever was passing fake clones as ogs. (Originals)
Just because people don't post shit up don't mean they dont have it.

Not sure my cut I'd the same as UK 420 crew
As I never had a chance to compare.

Peace and love,

 

[mack 10]

Em used to say blues is sweet and livers has more old garage smell,, who you gona believe eh,,?,,, and also this is one of the first times I've mentioned EM was the first to pass the blues,,, in many ways EM is turning into a similar story to Brightside,,, where the fuk is he?

Let's be clear,, before I brought the blues clone to icmag via EM and was asked not to mention it,, everyone was just clucking on blues ,, uk 420 boys were getting raped hard,,

Cannaboy aka mate dave harassed me for a clone, this was the first time mate dave got on icmag , at the Same time he opened up multiple accounts,, i literally have pms wgere we are continuing conversations from one account to the next,,, mate dave passed on these accounts to his friends,, this is why I thought mate dave was the same dude as mac10 for years,, so mac,, you pop up with the blues clone without the /livers suffix for the 420 holding hands with mate dave,, if I remember it was even called macs blues,, you saying the clone didn't come through me and EM,,, what the fuk is this rhetoric/bollox,, you know Mr livers too like mate dave does,, stays at his house an all that jazz

This post is sooo wrong.
Thought you was a G for info @ Rick?

Makes sense why I got a few odd comments.
I don't know MD and have held hands with him as you put it.

I correct it later..

 

[englishrick]

This post is sooo wrong.
Thought you was a G for info @ Rick?

Makes sense why I got a few odd comments.
I don't know MD and have held hands with him as you put it.

I correct it later..

are you trying to say mate dave and Cannaboy are not the same guy?,, ,,

 

[englishrick]

So both you guys don't have any links to mate dave whatsoever?,, i have this reaction nowadays because of that bile spouting he has done for god knows how long,, anyone who's down with his bolox is on a list by default in my eyes

If you guys both brought independently acquired blues clones I have loads of respect for this,, only question I ask is,, where the fuk were you both when I was slugging all over for something that wasn't my Brightside, jahs or suicide,,

 

[skotty]

here in the midlands we cant get enough cheese and trust you aint never seen so much..

exodus and bluez are the ones that always stuck out the most for me..

i know where the exodus is and can get her flowers most likely get the cut aswell but the bluez is just more danker and darker and sweeter with heavy chemical cleaning lemon terps id also say she is creamy.. i cant even describe the amount she has going on i miss loads out everytime i try and describe her but she was the 1 i wanted most and i know my cut came from sheff because this particular batch would only come around so often so i had to wait for the guy to bring the batch down with the cut..

people think its blue cheese when you mention blues because that also used to be about alot but with the stilton cut it actually taste the blueberry with the cheese dank on the blues cut its waaaaay more aniseed and night and day difference

like i said lad ive smoked alot of cheese and they all have a certain uniqeness to them but each and every single cheese cut/clone is different in her own way

 

[Blazeee]

I've always been told that the UK Blues and the authentic Livers cut were different gals... being the Livers superior.

Cheers.

I also believed this to be true.

Offline, on road, around these sides and most of the midlands, the name Livers is unheard of, everyone just refers to it as blues. The name Livers is more of an online thing i have never heard anyone offline use the name Livers.

Although i believe the blues and livers to be 2 different cuts.

Hemperor did a side by side years ago, with the livers cut he held and others sourced offline.

I used to buy loads of blues / livers from sheffield and rotherham. Used to have a link in sheffield where i would get what i describe as the 'Blues'.

I lost that link then gained another one in rotherham, where i used to score the livers. That bud from rotherham was the same as the clone that i recieved online the through friends, which came to me labled as the livers.

The Livers clone was passed to me from a friend online, who you know Rick, as do a few others here.. As far as i know that Livers clone our mutual friend has came direct to him through Hemperor. Im pretty positive that is correct, you can check with him if you wish.

The Blue cheese cut our friend held was also very similar to the Livers/blues but with a subtle cheese taste to her, and could be very easily mistaken by even some of the more experienced tokers. That Blue cheese was a true stinker, i just had a nightmare getting her to root and keeping her happy.

 

[hazyfontazy]

Fuck all to do with me but I don't get that question... https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74779&pictureid=1788813

But here's the real 1 if it makes anyone happy

 

[englishrick]

I was hunting online for the blues clone for ages,,it seemed like nobody was bringing in independent clones,, i waited years for EM to dig it out,, when I finally got it a second one came immediately,,,now it seems loads of blues, cheese and livers have come in independent of the old ones like Brightsides, Mr Cheese, Suicide, psycho,, EM Blues,,

It's nice to hear people are bringing in independent stuff,, back in 2007 it seemed like I was the only guy working on it,, everyone checked out around 2009,,i was basically left with shit people for years whos rhetoric was toxic,, I'm sure you know who I'm talking about,, the guy has made question peoples identitys,,it's been fuked up for a while,, but everything definitely seems to be getting back to straight talk again,, I'd almost given up on it

Yeh mac,, i thought you and dave were bumb boys,, and anyone connected to Mate David is subject to overly heavy scrutiny from me

 

[englishrick]

I also believed this to be true.

Offline, on road, around these sides and most of the midlands, the name Livers is unheard of, everyone just refers to it as blues. The name Livers is more of an online thing i have never heard anyone offline use the name Livers.

Although i believe the blues and livers to be 2 different cuts.

Hemperor did a side by side years ago, with the livers cut he held and others sourced offline.

I used to buy loads of blues / livers from sheffield and rotherham. Used to have a link in sheffield where i would get what i describe as the 'Blues'.

I lost that link then gained another one in rotherham, where i used to score the livers. That bud from rotherham was the same as the clone that i recieved online the through friends, which came to me labled as the livers.

The Livers clone was passed to me from a friend online, who you know Rick, as do a few others here.. As far as i know that Livers clone our mutual friend has came direct to him through Hemperor. Im pretty positive that is correct, you can check with him if you wish.

The Blue cheese cut our friend held was also very similar to the Livers/blues but with a subtle cheese taste to her, and could be very easily mistaken by even some of the more experienced tokers. That Blue cheese was a true stinker, i just had a nightmare getting her to root and keeping her happy.

As soon as you say it's independent I'm all ears,,

You probably haven't noticed this but dave has literally been taking every morsle from me and trying to reinvent it for a while now, sending it out as his own shit all warped to bolster his brevado,,, i fuked up by giving Cannaboy aka mate dave the blues clone,,he then starts spouting the livers story,,, weirdly mac10,, you joined at the same point dave was going quantam ,, that's why I thought mac was a mate dave account,,

cheesey rightfully crushed him for living in the "upside-down",,, but that's when he starts trying to say its called blues/livers,, i initially used the slash / before I got the clone and dave perpetually referd to it as blues / livers,,, so the nane blues / livers is like a fukin trigger word to me now,, does my nut in

 

[englishrick]

Apparently he's heard Brightsides might have died,, see what I'm saying,,, im the guy who's worried he might be and only just accepting it,, only last week have I started saying I think he's probably passed,, fuk,, but then he pops up saying he's heard something,,,he's literally heard it from me yet talks like it's not

 

[englishrick]

its baffling how can you both support mate dave,, or even just sit on the fence concerning his approach for the last few years ,, if he changed his tune I get it,, but it's been nothing but bravado for years ?

 

[mack 10]

Dude, I don't support MD.
But as he's not here to defend himself,
I leave it at that.

Don't take this online shit too serious.
Don't let people get under your skin.

Now, just to drill it in,
I'm not mate Dave, have never met MD.
Nor have I traded with him.

Don't know where you got that idea?

I don't know Bright side but hope he passed peacefully
If he has moved on.

Next time, ask . Don't assume.

 

[englishrick]

When mate dave starts bunny boiling on ya tell me again not to make assumptions,, it's better to assume than get ya bunny boiled

Not supporting mate dave is enough for me,, sorry for assuming,, but trust me,, it's probably helped me many times already

 

[Blazeee]

As soon as you say it's independent I'm all ears,,

You probably haven't noticed this but dave has literally been taking every morsle from me and trying to reinvent it for a while now, sending it out as his own shit all warped to bolster his brevado,,, i fuked up by giving Cannaboy aka mate dave the blues clone,,he then starts spouting the livers story,,, weirdly mac10,, you joined at the same point dave was going quantam ,, that's why I thought mac was a mate dave account,,

cheesey rightfully crushed him for living in the "upside-down",,, but that's when he starts trying to say its called blues/livers,, i initially used the slash / before I got the clone and dave perpetually referd to it as blues / livers,,, so the nane blues / livers is like a fukin trigger word to me now,, does my nut in

Heres a pic that mate dave posted from his other account, of your blues clone years back from this thread here.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2968117&postcount=34

And heres a pic of the Livers clone i was passed from our mutual friend, who may i clarify is NOT mate dave, and grew out myself. I would say they are the same.

Edit

The livers is just another name for the blues, and resulted as far as I can tell from one misguided individual believing that attaching personal info to a 'strain' would make it travel further - right in one sense, I guess, but not that sensible, IMO. No more on that topic...

 

[mack 10]

the livers always has those foxtails at the end of flower

 

[Blazeee]

Did some more digging around, man this shit makes my head hurt. Its so confusing, i regret even searching for this stuff, i feel more confused than i originally did lol.

Heres a quote from elevator man

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3824363&postcount=110

I've posted over and over again saying that nothing but confusion would result in pursuing these 'strains', as their origins are too buried to verify, and anyone who could, probably wouldn't. I suspect 'Mr. Livers' regrets his idea now. But for the record, blues/livers are one and the same, and the Mystery Strain/aka smelly one is a more fuely, less sickly-sweet version, but they look physically almost identical, so it's easy for mistakes to be made.

I sent out a blues clone probably a couple of years ago now, but never sent the Mystery Strain, so if anyone's tracing that line, it's definitely blues, as known amongst our group. I've never encountered anything called 'KillerSkunk', BTW, so no idea if that's what folks call the Mystery Strain elsewhere...?

Heres some pics from 2005 uploaded by Verge / VRG (the guy who owns underground originals), of the 'Blues', which is clearly the same as the other plants in my previous post.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11993&page=2

And heres another pic Verge / VRG posted in 2009

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=2298131#post2298131

Elevator man was correct After seeing these pics it is clear that the Clone passed to me as 'Livers' is the same as what Rick knows as the original original Blues clone?

This clone is the same stuff i used to pick up in rotherham.

Fuck knows what clone the stuff I used to get from sheffield was then? At the time it was all sold as 'blues'. But the stuff from sheffield was slightly different to this 'livers' clone. Maybe it could have been the mystery strain aka smelly one elevator man talks of?

 

[englishrick]

Man,, that's some good digging,, even I've missed EM using the blue / livers term,,, maybe that's where I got it from originally,,,but weirdly,,, im super sure EM even contracting himself in regards to blues and livers being identical clones,, I'd need to do some digging myself but I'm sure he used the word "basement" and "dank" in relation to the difference between blues and livers,,, witch I'd never heard him use before,,

Yeh it's fukin confusion,, but yeh,, i was that guy who put out the blues from EM,, then I got an identical clone labeled Sheffield blues from the guys who sell weed to the happy Mondays crew,,,that's when I just started calling it the blues clone and was sceptical about the livers suffix

BTW,, sorry for getting all edgy on scoty and mac before,, and mac for quite some time,, i honestly thought you was down with the most annoying guy on this site,, EVER!!