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U.K cheese brightside cut ?

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God bless LLP where ever he is thesedays & may his garden be always green, not seen him here for quite sometime....may need to hunt him down in person at summer solstice
 

skotty

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The Psychosis clone only has never been confirmed as NL5 x Haze.

LLP met the guys that popped it, it was found in an expensive pack of seeds by a London crew, but the guy he spoke to couldn't remember the specific strain. So it's not NL5Haze x Cheese as it was a pack of seeds from a seedbank, popped way before cheese made it to the seedbanks.

The problem with the NL5XHaze theory is that Psychosis is similar terp wise to Cheese. Cheese is Skunk 1 for sure. NL5 x Haze has no skunk in it, but more importantly has a very distinctive terp profile, lemons, limes, incense, carrots, parsnip, spice, etc etc.

Londinium suggested Super Skunk (Afghan T x Skunk 1). That makes far more sense in terms of both structure and terps. Doesn't really matter what the lineage is though does it?

Peace

The only way to settle the debate is to get the buds into the phylos galaxy and see who she is related to and i bet she contains nl# and haze and it wouldnt suprise me if the sk#1 was involved...

im saying the cut of psycosis i had contained nl# haze and sk#1

And as far as lineage is concerned it matters cause the thread is related to the sk#1 cuts as in bluez/liverz exodus cheese and the bs cheese but people keep mentioning the psycosis cut which i beleive to be a nl# x haze and wondered why they brought her up? I appreciate the psycosis cut is done in 9 weeks but so is the core cut which again has her own massive following but the topic is bright sides cheese i.e sk#1 cuts from 80s 90s

Im pretty sure the psycosis cut deserves a thread of her own as does the core-cut.

But yeah im more than happy to put the brightside cheese cut if she is ever found next to the exodus and bluez/liverz just to see where she fits in .... :tiphat:
 

Piff Rhys Jones

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Unfortunately phylos is unreliable. If you have a look at the report of Skunk 1 submitted by Sam, it doesn't show any connection to any of the cheese cuts submitted. Possibly they're all fake cheeses submitted, but there should be some distant connection at least.

Also phylos say all the OG Kush cuts are genetically identical, which they clearly aren't.

Peace
 

englishrick

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Yes,, phylos are really losing it atm,,not sure how true this is, it seems they might have had a secret tc operation going,, along with that it seems if you send in 2 clones that are clearly different they seem to think they have seen the clone before and its had somaclonal variation,,
 

NEED 4 SEED

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Unfortunately phylos is unreliable. If you have a look at the report of Skunk 1 submitted by Sam, it doesn't show any connection to any of the cheese cuts submitted. Possibly they're all fake cheeses submitted, but there should be some distant connection at least.

Also phylos say all the OG Kush cuts are genetically identical, which they clearly aren't.

Peace


Don't want to stir any shit but you are mixing different things here. I don't know what Sam Skunkman sent there as "Skunk #1". But Skunk #1 was at least at one point in time a strain and not just a single plant. What do we know did the Skunkman send there? A father sample, a mother sample? A special single clone sample? And are these really "THE" ancestors? For me this is not enough info to come to a conclusion. Also the theory that all the cheese cuts are probably fake...doesn't look to me very probable. At least some of them could show some genetic correlation BETWEEN EACH OTHER, when their terp profile is the one. Do they? I don't know cause I don't know how to read this "phylos-thing" the right way. And there's the legend that Cheese is a Skunk #1 phenotype. How accurate is this story after all. I mean how many times have you fucked up clone labelling. It's happening.

What I do know from my own observation is, that Cheese from Dinafem, Xodus#1 from Real Gorilla Seeds and Sensi Seeds Super Skunk have most of their phenos in common.
From a criminological point of view not the phylos galaxy is the weakest point but the rumours and myths of the origin of clones, strains and samples.
 

Cheesegez

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That Phylos galaxy is more tricky than useful ... charts would of been fine and far easier to decipher , that doesn’t make much sence about the cheese not being related to Skunk #1 however, I assume most cuts sent to them are sourced in the US...and that’s assuming they are sequencing the whole Genome.

But yer strange..I recon it’s a blag , send me all Your genetics I’ll keep them safe haha����
 

englishrick

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God bless LLP where ever he is thesedays & may his garden be always green, not seen him here for quite sometime....may need to hunt him down in person at summer solstice


Spoke to llp yesterday,, il send him this
 

GoatCheese

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UK Cheese/Skunk sample on Phylos

UK Cheese/Skunk sample on Phylos

Why some Skunk/Cheese samples aren't showing relation to each other may be the fault of Phylos web page platform (..or the people using it).

The "genetic relatives table" on Phylos hasn't been working right since they started updating the platform quite awhile ago; meaning all the strains related to some particular sample does not ALLWAYS show all the relatives, if any.

Here's one example:
After the update a X-18 sample didn't show any relatives any more thou earlier it did
https://phylos.bio/sims/sample/genotype/eg5r66v8

Before:

picture.php



After: "No relatives found"


picture.php
 

GoatCheese

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Very interesting,,, when do you think they will attempt to improve the service
It's been like that for almost two years now, i think. Are they even aware of this, i dunno.
I used to surf the Phylos sample library quite abit before the update, mainly to see relations between landraces, so i know quite well how much info is missing; about South American and African sativas, Hazes etc. It's shambles. But some samples show loads of relatives.
 

Mate Dave

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The Psychosis clone only has never been confirmed as NL5 x Haze.

LLP met the guys that popped it, it was found in an expensive pack of seeds by a London crew, but the guy he spoke to couldn't remember the specific strain. So it's not NL5Haze x Cheese as it was a pack of seeds from a seedbank, popped way before cheese made it to the seedbanks.

The problem with the NL5XHaze theory is that Psychosis is similar terp wise to Cheese. Cheese is Skunk 1 for sure. NL5 x Haze has no skunk in it, but more importantly has a very distinctive terp profile, lemons, limes, incense, carrots, parsnip, spice, etc etc.

Londinium suggested Super Skunk (Afghan T x Skunk 1). That makes far more sense in terms of both structure and terps. Doesn't really matter what the lineage is though does it?

Peace

You got that mixed up. I said it was likely The T but it would be on the wrong side.. Londinium did mention that is was from old expensive seeds & was lost to London. LLp got the clone from some lads but it was already nicknamed then.

It matters what the lineage is if you was to try to breed it pure with existing stock.. They Galaxy is there to help us decide these things to allow hybridisation & advancements in breeding..
 

englishrick

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I spoke to alot of people at bgd,,, milo said he's not seen Brightside for years,, but a couple of people said they know people who still hold his clone,, so fingers crossed
 

Mate Dave

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I'm just wondering if the stink on the T plant would be recessive & hide & show heterozygous in progeny then it might be the case as I suggested..

I heard B died Rick? Not the cutting but the man himself.. Hope hope this isn't so but maybe folks can confirm this isn't the case..
 

englishrick

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All your info comes from me,,why are you saying you heard b is dead ,,in fact why are you still talking when even gypsy asked you not to come near me,,, I'm the only guy asking questions about b and telling people the real score,, stop with your crapola

You never met the man,, didn't even believe my cheese was different,, your a joker mate,, just stop with the bullcrap and start a fresh where you don't talk backwards and upside-down
 

skotty

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Milo as in big buddha...?

big buddha cheese is fukall like the original cut of exodus mostly probably because he peppered his cut with afghan pollen and some people even debated about the true cut he had??

Cant understand why he cashed in on her i know that pissed loads of people off and he claimed to be the founder... the story of the exodus cut is much bigger than that jumped up brummy **** so maybe the world.would be a better place of he rolled up and died...

Ive always said if our paths ever cross id ask him why he felt the need to do it.. as if just having the cut alone doesnt bring you enough... the guy is a bell end
 

englishrick

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Remember milo got shot in the foot by Brightside giving gh his cheese after milo gave them his afghan cross to sell,,,

Milo is an old member,, he's due some respect for sure,,, he always passed me a bud to smoke , I'm not sure what beef you have with him,, but he's never asked me for anything and always been extra generous in help,, he's always known I had Brightsides Cheese and he's always had respect for B an his clone,,

But,, when it comes to b,, I'm grateful for any information on his where abouts,, the funny thing is I was talking to milo when someone overheard Brightsides name and said Hay I know where that is,, would you turn it down if it happens that milo helped in re aquiring Brightsides Cheese
 
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