U.K cheese brightside cut ?

[GoatCheese]

... I think the line was called skunk 18.5F3a ? I can't recall where it was posted!

(i've remembered it was in the description for Jack Flash!!)

Yea, if you guys Google "Skunk 18.5" you'll find info calling it a F3 generation of Skunk.

Sensi Seeds' Skunk was originally made with Nevil's Skunk parents. It's possible that these were from his own skunk-line, so perhaps these F3 generation plants.

Does Sensi still use the same parents for their Skunk#1 seeds, i doubt that but what do i know.


Next question is..
What generation of Skunk were those seeds that Sam gave to Nevil?
Where they from the last seed batch made in USA or from the first seeds made in Europe or what?
I think i remember reading about this earlier but i just checked and i didn't save the post/link. It was probably here on ICmag or at Mr Nice forums.
I don't have any energy to find that info right now.

 

[NBE One !]

n/a

 

[udontknowme]

Crystal

 

[Spaventa]

Looking for the cheese in seeds is worse than a needle in a haystack. First there are thousands of haystacks too loo through and secondly, there is no evidence that there is a needle in any of them lol

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Just to chuck a bit of petrol on the fire... You will never guess what I saw in some Cheese I was just trimming... a few bananas... The crop was slightly neglected due to an emergency move, but nothing too bad. The Exodus clone I have now grows slightly differently to how I remember, but the smell is spot on Exodus, it came from the same Spiral Tribe conncection as before, from someone who works in a growshop and has been looking at other people's "Exodus Cheese Clone" weed for over 15 years.

Now, how to do it again, I have no idea...

 

[kopite]

I believe the 18.5 was a backcross of a Afghan dominant skunk#1...so a little more than just a skunk#1??

It would appear it was a precursor to Sk#1

Sensis superskunk is a cross of skunk 18.5 and an old afghan..18.5 is a inbred line from the original skunk not the #1 version.. J

Sorta got away from the brightside clone discussion so apologies.

 

[Mate Dave]

The ancestral Skunk I don't believe will throw many. It's already had a filal selection done. There are 2 batches of seed so you'll want to try batch 1 & 2.

The Cheese is a pure old-world F1.

Neville always say's you can cross many things & if you grow enough seed the 8 week anomaly will show itself sooner or later.

Nev had no reason to not trust Sams pedigree.

 

[3rd-3yed]

The ancestral Skunk I don't believe will throw many. It's already had a filal selection done. There are 2 batches of seed so you'll want to try batch 1 & 2.

The Cheese is a pure old-world F1.

Neville always say's you can cross many things & if you grow enough seed the 8 week anomaly will show itself sooner or later.

Nev had no reason to not trust Sams pedigree.

Batch 1 & 2 simply mean they come from two different barrels of seeds but still from the same open pollinated field, one just have not been stored properly as it showed bad result in seeds viability.

Yes this line will still need refining like selecting the most offensive smelling phenos from big numbers, open pollinate again and then refining it once you find roadkill smelling ones. Like you said filial selection work was already made by Sam since maybe a decade but this is the Cali Skunk version wich means those seeds are open pollinated before the Holland selection work on the sweet side of the spectrum. Recessive genes will show, maybe it will be rare to find a pure Roadkill but I'm sure it's here. Maybe only 1/50 or 1/100 will show the desired traits in this first avaible reproduction idk.

Cheese is not a F1, in 1989 it's just a special pheno from Sensi selection/reproduction of an already worked "sweet" Skunk #1 IBL since many years...


Peace

 

[Kalbhairav]

The ancestral Skunk I don't believe will throw many. It's already had a filal selection done. There are 2 batches of seed so you'll want to try batch 1 & 2.

The Cheese is a pure old-world F1.

Neville always say's you can cross many things & if you grow enough seed the 8 week anomaly will show itself sooner or later.

Nev had no reason to not trust Sams pedigree.

Be careful here..
No one knows the specific generation of the seed used in the open pollination for the Ancestral Skunk1 that breeders retail are selling.

And as already stated above, the batches are just to distinguish between the seed that BR were selling which come from different barrels. The actual seed from batches 1 & 2 are from the same open field pollination.

Sorry to go off on a tangent but MD has to get his facts right.

 

[Mate Dave]

I was referring to the germination viability of the seed & even if there are millions of viable ones there are many more millions dead. That is all I was suggesting. The genes are valuable..

I've not seen Nevile post anywhere about breeding stinkier skunk. It was already stinky & sweet if you read about the cup where it came as a late entry & won.

What time was there for this Selection work? What dates did Sam do his breeding as 1989 is 1989..

Sam never gave anyone his best genes he say's. 'That means that nobody got a true breeding Mono hybrid' Maybe they got F1's, Somebody had to test grow something

He was upset about passing out the skunk he did @ the time & was reluctant to sell his haze seeds to Nev all them years ago. So do not think that 1 or 2 unique plants from that line or those batches will not be able to produce the the amount of Hybrids that Nev made from Haze. Will they be of the same batch from back then? Questionable.

I believe that Rob & Sam were weeding out the intersex plants in the Europe grow. What else do you throw away in an OP?

 

[3rd-3yed]

I'm pretty sure Neville received (83'-84' I don't remember) the later sweet version once Sam was established in Amsterdam and was already working on refining his "sweet" skunk since a few years here.

That's my guess why he didn't found raw Skunk terps.

By 89' the sweet skunk was IBL as near a decade work has been done.

 

[Spaventa]

I'm pretty sure Neville received (83'-84' I don't remember) the later sweet version once Sam was established in Amsterdam and was already working on refining his "sweet" skunk since a few years here.

That's my guess why he didn't found raw Skunk terps.

By 89' the sweet skunk was IBL as near a decade work has been done.

Im stoned but that sounds plausible

 

[Mate Dave]

The Afghan gave the stink. This clone is not Afghan Skunk, the Stink it's raw Colombian/Acapulco Gold x Afghan stink.. Pure skunk it's been said many many times..

We have had all the Afghan Skunk crosses all these past 10 years & none of them were what the cheese cutting is

Pardon me..


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7277673&postcount=59
The Gold was famous for it's skunk aroma, the afghan made it worse.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=7279099&postcount=72

There is no Roadkill in the Breaders retail.

 

[Cheesegez]

Sorry to go off on a tangent but MD has to get his facts right.

Lol maybe in his next life , if he’s wrong he will just start copying and pasting shit from his GCSE Biology book and he still gets it wrong

Each to their own tho man , gotta love him all the same tho

 

[Mate Dave]

Hey Kalbhairav.

 

[Kalbhairav]

Cheers mate, although I have that poster already

 

[kopite]

I'm pretty sure Neville received (83'-84' I don't remember) the later sweet version once Sam was established in Amsterdam and was already working on refining his "sweet" skunk since a few years here.

That's my guess why he didn't found raw Skunk terps.

By 89' the sweet skunk was IBL as near a decade work has been done.

Old Ed said Skunk came to Holland in 84 with SamS

(though others say 85, SamS)

ED did not have Skunk#1 until after 85, you need to ask him what the photo is and what year.
-SamS

 

[hazyfontazy]

Old Ed said Skunk came to Holland in 84 with SamS

84/85/86/87 the good old days lol

 

[944s2]

Hey Kalbhairav.

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Dave,,,,
As your aware over the many years i have never had " an axe to grind " with you but with respect old mate,,,
i dont remember you being so critical and sometimes spiteful a few years back,,,,
Yes,,you liked your science but you never used to put people down
if you percieved there grow skills were lacking or below your expectations then i think i remember you trying to be helpful in your way and some peeps liked it and some didnt,,,,
I hope you take this in the spirit its meant mate,
A happy and healthy 2018,,,,s2

 

[kopite]

84/85/86/87 the good old days lol

Liverpool won the league back then!!