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Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

zachrockbadenof

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. I've heard reports that countries who manufacture in China are now looking to places like Vietnam and Indonisiea to maintain low labor costs.
they ain't looking... factories have been moving out of china to vietnam/etc for a few years now... and u are rite... china is no longer the low-cost producer of goods...
 

PadawanWarrior

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The Mexican cooperation on stopping illegal immigrants started with the Biden administration which is why the number of actual boarder crossing under Biden have been going down to levels lower then when Trump was in office the first time.
😂

Oh my! If you actually believe that nonsense I truly feel sorry for you.

😂😂😂😂😂
 

Travis Kelcee

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The Mexican cooperation on stopping illegal immigrants started with the Biden administration which is why the number of actual boarder crossing under Biden have been going down to levels lower then when Trump was in office the first time. It had zero to do with Trump's threats to Mexico which is why after their phone call where Trump tried to claim some sort of victory, the Mexican President made it a point to refute the way Trump was trying to make things sound. I'm sure you won't believe any of that though because you've been listening to inflate numbers where in some instances immigrants were counted multiple times to inflate the numbers.

I did hear that Trudea annd Trump had a dinner meeting but I've not heard anything suggesting Trudea is doing anything to stop migrants from coming into the US from Canada. Then again I've not heard any reliable reports of large umers of migrants crossing from the Canadian border either.
Keep in mind that around 35% of Mexico’s GDP is contingent upon exports to the USA, meanwhile only around 1% of our stuff exports to them. Then add in the remittances of dollars to Mexico, and more than 50% of the Mexican economy is contingent upon us just being friendly to their needs.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has no clue or comprehension about the scale of Trump’s leverage over her. This is like a spoiled teenager threatening to cut up the credit card dad gave her if she can’t go to the concert. Beyond funny.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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That’s interesting. Where do you live ? Are you also saying that the recent hike in food prices is also trumps fault
I live on the east coast in the mid atlantic. As for recent price hikes in food, no I don't blame that on Trump specifically. His poor handling of the pandemic and the impact it had on supply chain disruptions played a key role in creating the recent inflationary period. Since a lot of the latest price hikes (those in the last year or two) happened as the supply chains started getting back on track and the Biden administration success on driving the inflation rate down from 9% to around 2.3%, I blame cooporate greed taking advantage of widespread inflation to jack up prices where it would be less likely to be questioned.
 

zachrockbadenof

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The Mexican cooperation on stopping illegal immigrants started with the Biden administration which is why the number of actual boarder crossing under Biden have been going down to levels lower then when Trump was in office the first time.
haha... what a load of BULLSHIT... according to customs and border control, there were 2.4m encounters during trumps time in office, and during biden it has been 10m...

going down... fuk yeah... it can't go up...
 

HempKat

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Keep in mind that around 35% of Mexico’s GDP is contingent upon exports to the USA, meanwhile only around 1% of our stuff exports to them. Then add in the remittances of dollars to Mexico, and more than 50% of the Mexican economy is contingent upon us just being friendly to their needs.

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has no clue or comprehension about the scale of Trump’s leverage over her. This is like a spoiled teenager threatening to cut up the credit card dad gave her if she can’t go to the concert. Beyond funny.
Forbes seems to have a much different take on trade between the US and Mexico then what you're suggesting here. perhaps you're looking at old data?

"Mexico did more trade with the United States in 2023 that ever and it once again become the United States’ top trade partner, according to U.S. trade data released today.


U.S. trade fell slightly 3.85% in 2023, according to U.S. Census Bureau data. The $5.1 trillion total remains the second-greatest total on record, trailing only the $5.3 trillion total in 2022.



In addition to a new top trade partner, the nation has a new top port, a new leading export and a new leading import.


Port Laredo finished as the nation’s top port for the first time on the strength of its trade with Mexico, which replaced Canada as the nation’s top trade partner after two years.


The top U.S. export for the first time was oil, which replaced gasoline and other refined petroleum products. The top import was passenger vehicles, replacing oil.

The U.S. trade deficit, the difference between exports and imports, was $1.1 trillion, the third consecutive year above the $1 trillion mark. With trade having risen so rapidly in recent years, that’s not surprising."

 

HempKat

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haha... what a load of BULLSHIT... according to customs and border control, there were 2.4m encounters during trumps time in office, and during biden it has been 10m...

going down... fuk yeah... it can't go up...
Sure it can during the past year I heard Trump claim that there were 10 Million illegal, then later on 15 Million andd even more recently 20 Million. The bullshit is you just accept what Trump tells you as the gospel truth.
 

zachrockbadenof

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I live on the east coast in the mid atlantic. As for recent price hikes in food, no I don't blame that on Trump specifically. His poor handling of the pandemic and the impact it had on supply chain disruptions played a key role in creating the recent inflationary period. Since a lot of the latest price hikes (those in the last year or two) happened as the supply chains started getting back on track and the Biden administration success on driving the inflation rate down from 9% to around 2.3%, I blame cooporate greed taking advantage of widespread inflation to jack up prices where it would be less likely to be questioned.
haha... what the fuk.... 9pct.... and he's brought it down... what a fukin saint... thanks joe...

trumps poor handling of the pandemic... it certainly was a fuk'd up time.... but joe didn't do much better- i remember in the spring biden calling on everyone to get the shot, so u can see grandma and not infect her-
more Americans died during Biden era, even with vaccine availability, compared to the Trump era.. thanks for nothing joe
 

zachrockbadenof

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Yeah, sounds like we're in roughly the same boat, except if Trump keeps going thru with the tariffs he's been threatening, food is going to get way more expensive then it was at the height of the recent inflationary period.
if we don't export grains, exactly how would food prices go up??
 

eastcoastjoe

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I live on the east coast in the mid atlantic. As for recent price hikes in food, no I don't blame that on Trump specifically. His poor handling of the pandemic and the impact it had on supply chain disruptions played a key role in creating the recent inflationary period. Since a lot of the latest price hikes (those in the last year or two) happened as the supply chains started getting back on track and the Biden administration success on driving the inflation rate down from 9% to around 2.3%, I blame cooporate greed taking advantage of widespread inflation to jack up prices where it would be less likely to be questioned.

Interesting. We live in the same region but seem to have experienced different things. Out of curiosity, how should trump have managed the pandemic to avoid this inflation you say he caused?

I seem to remember him not wanting to shut the country down , claiming the economic impact would be far worse ?
 

zachrockbadenof

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Sure it can during the past year I heard Trump claim that there were 10 Million illegal, then later on 15 Million andd even more recently 20 Million. The bullshit is you just accept what Trump tells you as the gospel truth.
the bullshit i am accepting is from the govt... the govt that biden has been running (now thats a funny) for 4yrs... trump can say its 10/20 or 50.... the figures i gave is from the govt
 

shiva82

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I don't know enough about it to elaborate beyond having children circumcised has long been stated to lead to better hygene and therefore less complications due to poor hygene.
this is not true in any way . circumcision is mutilation and has never been essential
 

eastcoastjoe

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haha... what the fuk.... 9pct.... and he's brought it down... what a fukin saint... thanks joe...

trumps poor handling of the pandemic... it certainly was a fuk'd up time.... but joe didn't do much better- i remember in the spring biden calling on everyone to get the shot, so u can see grandma and not infect her-
more Americans died during Biden era, even with vaccine availability, compared to the Trump era.. thanks for nothing joe

These guys talk so tough about freedom but I remember who mandated vaccines that didn’t even prevent transmission
 

HempKat

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Farmers have been getting government subsidies to grow certain crops for a long time. That program is never going to change.

If what your saying actually happens , which I don’t think it will, maybe those subsides can be used to incentivize farmers to grow actual food that can be marketed right here in this country.

I’m not sure how many farmers you know but I live in a cow town. There aren’t any poor farmers here. Quite the opposite actually.
Yes there have been long standing subsidies that usually involved paying farmers to not grow certain crops. I'm not talking about those. I'm talking specifically new subsidies that were instituted during the Trump trade wars where China stopped taking orders for crops (mostly soybean and corn) cauding much of the crops meant for China to go to waste. As a result they petitioned Trump for new subsidies to make up for their losses so that they could continue to be in business and plant new crops. If you want you can find numerous interviews with actual farmers where they discussed this in great detail.
 
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