Trump thread part 2 (Or anything else we want to talk about that's ridiculous in politics today)

[HempKat]

All this gets real simple when you realize I speak for myself, and no one speaks for me.

I simply stated that democracy is populism.

That is a true statement. Stop bending yourselves into pretzels looking for an angle it’s not true.

You're the one doing the bending. You want people to respond to that statement but when they didn't you threw out your leading question in hopes to get the response you wanted but instead of peope responding to your statement they're responding to your question since it's impossible to answer becausse there is no pure democracy anywhere in the world.

All this gets real simple when you stop trying to play these word games and just make your arguements or counter arguements in a straightforward manner.

 

[HempKat]

no rise.... i am just reading the threads.... trump sucks (which he does), and the dem's are great... nothing more, nothing less

 

[HempKat]

when u have all 3 branches of gov't, u can pass ANYTHING, that does not require a super majority... so people want gun control (i do tooo), why wasn't it passed... etc etc...

Since gun laws impacts something that is seen as a constitutionally protected right it requires more then just a simple majority. If it didn't there would definitely be a lot more gun control laws on the books considering it's something that's been battled in congress for decades.

Is your understanding of how the government works really that vague? i mean this is pretty basic stuff that most people discussing politics understand. If you don't understand things even on such basic levels when it comes to how the government works then perhaps you should consider becoming active in a thread less geard to politics, like perhaps the joke of the day thread.

 

[Cannavore]

All this gets real simple when you realize I speak for myself, and no one speaks for me.

I simply stated that democracy is populism.

That is a true statement. Stop bending yourselves into pretzels looking for an angle it’s not true.

Democracy isn't populism.

Then you responded asking how the most popular ideas don't win in a "pure" democracy.

I responded by saying "capital".... Meaning the rich people own all the institutions, the media, the TV stations, the airways, etc and will spend money as an investment making sure their ideas and their candidates dominate the discussions.

Populism isn't simply "the most popular ideas". And it's mostly a leftist thing as far right populism is a polite way of saying nationalist and/or fascist.

 

[zachrockbadenof]

Since gun laws impacts something that is seen as a constitutionally protected right it requires more then just a simple majority. If it didn't there would definitely be a lot more gun control laws on the books considering it's something that's been battled in congress for decades.

Is your understanding of how the government works really that vague? i mean this is pretty basic stuff that most people discussing politics understand. If you don't understand things even on such basic levels when it comes to how the government works then perhaps you should consider becoming active in a thread less geard to politics, like perhaps the joke of the day thread.

i think u mite be rite.... i'll start my joke of the day with one of your threads... usually good for a laugh

 

[HempKat]

i think u mite be rite.... i'll start my joke of the day with one of your threads... usually good for a laugh

Good luck, I don't have any active threads that I consider mine.

 

[Hiddenjems]

Democracy isn't populism.

Then you responded asking how the most popular ideas don't win in a "pure" democracy.

I responded by saying "capital".... Meaning the rich people own all the institutions, the media, the TV stations, the airways, etc and will spend money as an investment making sure their ideas and their candidates dominate the discussions.

Populism isn't simply "the most popular ideas". And it's mostly a leftist thing as far right populism is a polite way of saying nationalist and/or fascist.

Whether they’ve been coerced or not, the winner of a democratic election is the popular opinion.

It’s simple math.

A document like the us constitution prevents democracy from doing idiotic things to groups small enough to be greatly outnumbered.

 

[Hiddenjems]

You're the one doing the bending. You want people to respond to that statement but when they didn't you threw out your leading question in hopes to get the response you wanted but instead of peope responding to your statement they're responding to your question since it's impossible to answer becausse there is no pure democracy anywhere in the world.

All this gets real simple when you stop trying to play these word games and just make your arguements or counter arguements in a straightforward manner.

Word games? Can a man get pregnant?

 

[Shua1991]

Word games? Can a man get pregnant?

So you're a sophist?

Why do you people torture the language to suit your tired arguments?

 

[Shua1991]

Whether they’ve been coerced or not, the winner of a democratic election is the popular opinion.

It’s simple math.

A document like the us constitution prevents democracy from doing idiotic things to groups small enough to be greatly outnumbered.

This is a lie, by omission. You have terrifyingly bad logic here.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

when u have all 3 branches of gov't, u can pass ANYTHING, that does not require a super majority... so people want gun control (i do tooo), why wasn't it passed... etc etc...

The Constitution provides checks and balances...

Most of the reason that Trump hates it.

 

[Hiddenjems]

This is a lie, by omission. You have terrifyingly bad logic here.

So even though people write a certain thing on a ballot, you decide they didn’t really mean it?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Word games? Can a man get pregnant?

At least you face facts head on and don't just change the subject...

 

[Shua1991]

So even though people write a certain thing on a ballot, you decide they didn’t really mean it?

Yes, when the choice is between two options that is always the case.

Voters remorse is a real thing.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

What about the people who don't vote but they pretend that bitching matters?

 

[Cannavore]

What about the people who don't vote but they pretend that bitching matters?

they're the coolest of them all

only moralistically weak cucks vote for people who support genocidal rapist racist fascists cunts.

 

[Cannavore]

Whether they’ve been coerced or not, the winner of a democratic election is the popular opinion.

electoral college has stepped in

A document like the us constitution prevents democracy from doing idiotic things to groups small enough to be greatly outnumbered.

i disagree oi oi oi

 

[mean mr.mustard]

they're the coolest of them all

only moralistically weak cucks vote for people who support genocidal rapist racist fascists cunts.

Cool yet ineffective.

 

[buzzmobile]

no rise.... i am just reading the threads.... trump sucks (which he does), and the dem's are great... nothing more, nothing less

 

[HempKat]

At least you face facts head on and don't just change the subject...

Ah this must be an example of that sarcasm stuff i've been hearing about.