exoticrobotic
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In early flower, a taskenti x thh cross had very strong rosemary/lavender terps.
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In early flower, a taskenti x thh cross had very strong rosemary/lavender terps.
exoticrobotic
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have you found this in any mexicans? or just se asian?
exoticrobotic
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What i find interesting when smoking the Posi haze preserved by tom is a specific area on top of my head towards the back always gets hotter and i feel cerebral bloodflow increasing there. It's almost like you can feel neural connections becoming enhanced.
Mm x oaxacan space shuttle has them but with lemon lime added.
I have grown unknown 90’s Mexican brick seed, tons of it but no Mexican heirloom other than oaxacan. No minty pine eucalyptus that I grew but that’s my very limited experience.
I did find sweet pine in some inbred skunk haze but not the same.
I have grown unknown 90’s Mexican brick seed, tons of it but no Mexican heirloom other than oaxacan. No minty pine eucalyptus that I grew but that’s my very limited experience.
I did find sweet pine in some inbred skunk haze but not the same.
exoticrobotic
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i've noticed pine notes from afghan/paskistan hashes.
Maybe it can be found there, the taskenti side in the cross, the taskenti has mint notes in the smoke afterall.
i'm not suggesting thh has any afghan remnants or skunk in it, noooo but it will be interesting for me to see where seedsman oh terpenes flow to in relation to thh.
Maybe it can be found there, the taskenti side in the cross, the taskenti has mint notes in the smoke afterall.
i'm not suggesting thh has any afghan remnants or skunk in it, noooo but it will be interesting for me to see where seedsman oh terpenes flow to in relation to thh.
Stoneguru
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I noticed a lot more culinary herb types in Nevil's haze. Anise, mint, one wa
Thanks for this. I remember Dwight mentioning Nevil said MM overtook the haze in crosses, but not sure what he meant...maybe that the added profile muted it.
This is what happened with most of the early 5hazes imo. Best 5haze I had for from the original and was the most refined diesel fuels on a bed of pine needles into Frankincense. Chems or the diesels that were called that after clearly has 5haze for those that had that type, but mucked up by the cross.
It makes sense that SSSD would get pulled back out and cleaned up back toward haze in a cross like that. I also saw pictures of it with the trichomes all over the stems which is also reminiscent. Of old 5haze.
Camphor and metal in THH sounds right in the wheel house. Was it true to flavor? Any of his haze stems as touched as the flowers?
I know he curses Mexican as headache weed, but I bet a few made it past his selections.
@hempy
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The MM is a Thai Colombian, just like Haze.
Some Haze few I ever came cross had the acrid Piney smell, but most have anything from Floral to woody to even incense smells. Some even have fruity smells.
Tom himself talks a lot about the Mango and I think Green Apple from memory in the Posi Haze.
Some Haze few I ever came cross had the acrid Piney smell, but most have anything from Floral to woody to even incense smells. Some even have fruity smells.
Tom himself talks a lot about the Mango and I think Green Apple from memory in the Posi Haze.
exoticrobotic
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i've never grown nevil's haze. When i was frantically buying seeds in and around the year 2000 it was not available. It was highly hyped up...
Luckily i bought a few packs of seedsman original haze instead which i reckon was the much better option anyway.
I see Anise in a lot of Oldtimer crosses and always thought it was an African terp. Africa is a region i feel holds quite a few trippy cerebral life changing plants aswell.
exoticrobotic
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In the latest thh plants i have, stem rubs have been crisp green apple.
Stoneguru
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I ran hard into that direction. Even ran Pico's that had something like 4% solo dominant pinene and a couple hundred NL pine tar '79 Christmas etc. . The type of pine in chems, Afghani and all of those Is a totally different terpene and set of terpenes.
This is sharp penetrating bright cleaner fuel type. Smelling it flares up your nostrils like vics vapor eucalyptus, camphene and camphor possible rather than pinene.
About halfway through smelling a fresh flower opens up nasal passage so much it's like you have a third nostril right below your third eye and pull back to catch your breath. Only smelled it on the haziest types.
It's another set that indica pines. Next time I find one I am sending it strait in for testing to find out what it is at play exactly.
exoticrobotic
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you mean like lavender with ammonia end to it?
I find the anise terps share some ammonia/freebase smells to it but i dont smell anise in the hazes at all whereas i do smell the pissy ammonia smell in both seedsman ohaze and posi haze.
the ammonia smell makes my nose screw up, i dunno, maybe its all the pollen on the buds
Stoneguru
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Oops, that was a post I didn't finish. The only Nevil's haze I had was 3 pack hunt in 98, ghost train haze, Outback haze x NL . In all it was powerful smoke, but warmer notes with various culinary notes. From my understanding maybe leaning into haze A. The C before it got poorly selected and outcrossed and bottlenecked into mango was fire fuel and fresh pine needle and frankincense.
I am running testers of Dwights Outback Haze #8 crossed to a Nevil's 5haze C frankincense Nigerian Silk plant. I think Nevil's Haze Selected by Nevil will have something special relative to the line as a whole
He had years and a castle to know what he was looking for. Running THH opens up a lot of possibilities to pull these lines even further into their roots!
Stoneguru
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Not at all ammonia or the piss types..however. just like the diesels and chems turned the r find 5haze Into an earthy Afghani spectrum I suspect the piss ammonia has some of the same terpenes in play,..but through either poor selection or outcrossing they got mottled from through true fire form.you mean like lavender with ammonia end to it?
I find the anise terps share some ammonia/freebase smells to it but i dont smell anise in the hazes at all whereas i do smell the pissy ammonia smell in both seedsman ohaze and posi haze.
the ammonia smell makes my nose screw up, i dunno, maybe its all the pollen on the buds
Tom's and others mention the green apple phenos. Perhaps in a similar way.. this is what proceeded the mango hazes. Taking a good mango 5haze to Toms Apples might pull it out just as a diesel or chem can get cleaned up or pulled back by a haze.
Breeding backwards is possible just as forward into. A series of techniques and procedures, but doable.
exoticrobotic
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I have never tried a nevil's haze nor haze A or haze C except in a few mrnice afghanhaze seeds from 2010 which were in all honesty unfortunately bunk. Werent they supposed to hace haze A in them or was that afghan T that was suposedly unusual about it, i cant remember.
The posi haze, i feel along with seedsman ohaze are enough excellent in their highs, along with Oldtimer1's Oldtimes to provide me with enough life changing smokes to last a lifetime.
I did smoke nl5haze in the 90s which was very nice too but i feel these old hazes/nigerians are where it is at.
I have wondered if there is any relation to Oldtimer1's Oldtimes and your Nigerian Silk plants.
exoticrobotic
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You smoke a good haze like posi or a good strain like oldtimes for a few months and they are life changing smokes.
Sincere thanks to everyone involved in reproducing, preserving and bringing such gems to the market.
Sincere thanks to everyone involved in reproducing, preserving and bringing such gems to the market.
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Stoneguru
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The vibrations and waves of energy of Nigerian Silk and old timers haze have more similarities than most equatorials and no comparison to BLD hybrids. It's like Adderall and MD... In the best. Lazer focused higher consciousness. Waves. Oh my God I am so high. Multi-tasking laughing. Like going over hills at 80 mph. That tickle right solar plexus. It's not everyone of them. Sometimes you get all that energy without the focus and are just dumb.
My wife calls them the dumb ones. She has a lower tolerance and really liked old timers. He selected really good vibes. I can't find it right now, but Nevil had Nigerian listed before he made 5haze.
The Silk cut was listed in big book of buds 1st addition..late 90's. Don't give up on Nevil's hazes brother. I have been hunting for what was lost in the early 90's for decades at varying passes. Hell of a lot of hay and dark or empty highs. It's in there and a lot of people are bringing it back...it is fairly bottlenecked between a couple primary parents at this time, but things are happening.
That said. I think Toms work and the way he did it was exactly the right thing at the right time. Dont tell him though. I gave him shit for months and him me and that's just the way it is
Stoneguru
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Not to mention how far he went. Taking shit from everyone. Filled his whole indoor with 5% haze so not like he was getting rich on it and finally toward the end the most insane California winter storm that ever hit that spot. Shut down all power, roads. Everything. It was 5 or 7 feet in hours or something like that And he got it doneThe vibrations and waves of energy of Nigerian Silk and old timers haze have more similarities than most equatorials and no comparison to BLD hybrids. It's like Adderall and MD... In the best. Lazer focused higher consciousness. Waves. Oh my God I am so high. Multi-tasking laughing. Like going over hills at 80 mph. That tickle right solar plexus. It's not everyone of them. Sometimes you get all that energy without the focus and are just dumb.
My wife calls them the dumb ones. She has a lower tolerance and really liked old timers. He selected really good vibes. I can't find it right now, but Nevil had Nigerian listed before he made 5haze.
The Silk cut was listed in big book of buds 1st addition..late 90's. Don't give up on Nevil's hazes brother. I have been hunting for what was lost in the early 90's for decades at varying passes. Hell of a lot of hay and dark or empty highs. It's in there and a lot of people are bringing it back...it is fairly bottlenecked between a couple primary parents at this time, but things are happening.
That said. I think Toms work and the way he did it was exactly the right thing at the right time. Dont tell him though. I gave him shit for months and him me and that's just the way it is
exoticrobotic
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i have a few packs of the blue plastic ones. I was so dissapointed with the afghanhaze i tried i'm reluctant to give them any time or space.
More interesting to me, are some seedsman colombian red haze from 2004 i have which is nevils haze x colombian red. this is likely the old nevils haze and at some point if i get the space i may well give them a go.
The picture of the buds for the col red hze strain look identical to a seedsman ohaze i have going at the mo, the most resinous of the bunch.
Stoneguru
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That is one I had been looking for, but didn't get at the time. Keep me in the loop when your ready. That would not only be an important preservation, but colab potential as well. I ran some Bodhi that claimed Colombian red, but I wasn't impressed...it's hard to go from the haze highs back to BLD hybrids. Maybe if I got cancer or something I'd BLD, but all Equatorial spirit medicine for now.
What else do you know about that one? Anyone ran a thread on it?
exoticrobotic
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i read a thread 20 years ago someone grew it said it was like the old colombian red so i bought it
