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Tom Hill Haze

CharlesU Farley

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Tom Hill said:
I have grown cannabis and bred it for my own use for 40 years. If I have remnant seed I try to make it available to folks. I have tried to use middlemen once or twice but always got fucked. I have tried to be nice and polite but whether you guys like it or not a giant percentage of you are douchebag hippie clowns. It's just not really worth it I find it much more profitable to be as repulsive as is possible. So go fuck yourselves lol.
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I think we both would agree you're the _opposite_ of Todd McCormick. The question still remains, is Maha right, did your chemically fuck with the sexuality of cannabis?
 
CharlesU Farley

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Tom Hill said:
You didn't. I have never released gynoecios seed lots.
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Thank you!!!

It's one thing to chemically fuck with the sexuality of cannabis for your own use, to determine the feasibility of a staminant plant and quite another as a quick, lazy ass way to market a stellar pistillate plant.

Hope you stick around... like Owsley and Nevil, I learn more from intelligent assholes than I do from dumbass nice guys. ;)

I never participated here here on ICM, because NL Seattle Greg got shit canned within 24 hours of his first post, and he's a hell of a lot nicer guy than I am. :eek:

_Respect_
 
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Tom Hill said:
I have grown cannabis and bred it for my own use for 40 years. If I have remnant seed I try to make it available to folks. I have tried to use middlemen once or twice but always got fucked. I have tried to be nice and polite but whether you guys like it or not a giant percentage of you are douchebag hippie clowns. It's just not really worth it I find it much more profitable to be as repulsive as is possible. S
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Tom Hill said:
I believe he based that on me advising on tactics to reverse stubborn individuals. I have done it but no, not released them.
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You kept the seeds for your own grow or didn’t consider them valuable ?
 
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Basically there is not a magic perfect formula you will find it is individual specific based on autosomal driven environmental thresholds. What you will find though is that even clones from the same individual will have micro variations. The way to combat this is to reverse several clones of the same individual as you will find variance in that population in regards to pollen shedding etc.
 
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You kept the seeds for your own grow or didn’t consider them valuable ?
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I've kept them for my own use. I have tried half sib selection, pedigree method line breeding , backcross programs, many things with haze that I have never released due to not realizing any improvement. Haze is a mind fuck, trixy bitch. Thinking you can improve her is a young man's fantasy, I'm over it.
 
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Old Uncle Ben

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CharlesU Farley said:
Yeah, I don't think anyone on this forum would understand what ph's Yield-O-Rama was all about (I remember we both thought it was bullshit) and Potroast pleading for a just a gram per watt for God's sake!!! o_O

Digging through the BCGA archive, I found this which may be of interest to you:

Wernard got most of his strains from a guy called old Ed and posies spec for haze used to be:-
Mostly Mexican and Colombian some southern Indian and Thai A pure breeding stabilised hybrid pure sativa appearance many slim flowers can be lime green, dark green, silver blue or purple smell/taste Incredible sticky sweet. almost sweet and sour smell high very potent, clear up, energetic high
height 2 -3 metres
yield med - high
harvest date Netherlands natural photo period - end December
12 hr exposure to harvest 12 to 16 weeks

For Holland they recommend glass or poly tunnel with darkening from June with 13 hrs dark to finish September for the best yields and potency. other info inbred 20 years, approx 5 to 10 % are special the rest just so so, 75% are female. This is very close to my strain except the very best go to between 16 and 18 weeks, homegrown must have done what they call improving the strain to reduce the hrs to 10 to 13 because thats not what posi started with. In fact it is very close to what you get with an F1 cross between original haze and original skunk No 1 which is probably closer to the truth.The other thing is to grow original haze well indoors light levels in excess of 100 w per sq ft are needed its not an economical crop.

Eric it is a 15 year old one off sorry!

All the best Ot1.

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      <b><font size=+1>F</font>rom</b> 67ed <p>

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      I might add, I heard that their haze only took 10-13 weeks to flower compared to 12-16 weeks by others, and I wanted to find out why, so I e-mailed them to ask. Ot1, I recall you said the best haze took up to 18 weeks to flower, any comments? Peace<br>


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      <br><b><font size=+1>T</font>ime</b> 18:42, 17 Nov 1998<br>

      <b><font size=+1>F</font>rom</b> 67ed <p>

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       Yep, Posi haze is mostly Columbian x Mexican with small amounts of thai and south Indian. It was created by "the Haze brothers" in California 20 years ago. Here's an email I got from Homegrown fantasy two days ago:<img src="/resources/spacer.gif" alt="" width=8>High there 76 ED !!

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      Our Haze is indeed from Posi's genetics, the flowering times do differ. Hydro tends to be quicker. Bio ( on soil) we find cantake 1 - 2 weeks longer. 10 - 13 weeks would be most likely on a hydro base. Of course there is some variation from growroom to growroom, even though it's the same strain. Haze is one of our most popular strains and is well worth the wait. A real uphigh of cosmic proportions.

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      Wishing you stickey fingers,Isolde & John>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eric, I agree, that's why I fought to grow the thai outdoors, only bringing it in to the HPS when temps went below 50 degrees. I just can't get potent plants growing indoors! I had a haze hybrid from Neville 9 years ago, and made thousands of seeds, but my house was broken in to, and all seeds stolen! Since then, getting more haze has been a real obsession with me. Peace<br>


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      <br><b><font size=+1>T</font>ime</b> 17:44, 17 Nov 1998<br>

      <b><font size=+1>F</font>rom</b> Lady J <p>

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      Haze is a sativa hybrid. If I remember right, they mentioned mexican,columbian and thai in varying degrees. This would explain some of the variation I saw in the hybrids Nevil sent me. Some of the extreme sativa characteristics included one plant with a 6" sport in 24hrs. That happened right after the induction of flowering. Outdoors they would have been giants.

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      <br><b><font size=+1>T</font>ime</b> 17:22, 17 Nov 1998<br>

      <b><font size=+1>F</font>rom</b> ERIC <p>

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      hey toker2 if im right i believe that haze is a satavia that has south american genetics

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      my experience with the satavias is that outside they will knock you on the floor with a smile

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      but the same clone inside will just give you a smile..

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      so your assesment is correct..hell to tell you the truth EVERY STRAIN i have tried outdoors my friends grew inside and mine is always more potent....<br>


Sorry to those wo can't read HTML... it's a cut 'n paste.

And UB, there wasn't a reference to TH that I could find _anywhere_ in the BCGA archive, so he hasn't been developing cannabis and posting shit about it online since the 90's like we have. :cool:
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Thanks for sharing amigo! Hoo nose. It's all a crap shoot these days. Hell, nobody can even define what the fuck The Real Haze is LOL. Old Timer ! was a frequent poster back in the day.

The healthiest and most vigorous seedlings I have now are also the Positronics crosses I made 26 years ago. Then there's Jock the distributor. One of the seeds I grew out looked like a blueberry. Leaves were tinted blue. I don't trust most of these seedbanks, and Jock.

Speaking of OT and Haze - https://shop.mandalaseeds.com/collections/ace-seeds/products/oldtimers-haze

I crossed TFD's green Haze with C99, Peak19. Still have those.

We'll see.
 
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Tom Hill

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Kamala is not your first cousin by chance? That was quite some word salad.

Enjoy the dressings.......
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Same old Ben and same old Texas shit same old life east of the i5. Don't understand it? No problem just make fun of it idiots won't know which way to go just throw some 20-20-20 pellets on it Ben impress us all with some of your epic half pounders 😂
 
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