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Tom Hill Haze
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RobFromTX
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In my experience its just the changing of the times. The friends i have that quit mainly did it because it became so potent that they didn't find it enjoyable anymore. And anyone that remembers the lime green brickweed from yesteryear knows what i mean. It didn't have jacked up thc levels and the buzz was so social and comfortable. You could smoke an ounce of it and build a deck behind the house. And i enjoy the mainstream hybrids sometimes but ive learned to hit it and put it down. Long gone are the days of rolling joints and blunts for me, even with the landraces .
Good grief im old
I can’t tell what cause the negative reaction some of my friends and relatives have. Even I react negatively to a few strains and I can’t tell why neither because I can enjoy one pheno and not her sister made with the same DNA, strange
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Original Haze x Skunk#1 s1 from a 40 years old cutting.
Would Mama Thai be okay?
Goeie môre Uncl Ben,That's not "O. haze". It's just another knock off. Thai was very recessive in the gene pool of the original Sam the Skunkman haze. He told me the Thai and Indian was added later to the Mex X Col F1., that;s why they're both in parentheses in the original mix "trademark". Whatever....
Will the real "haze" please stand up?
If you're after the high that "haze" is supposed to, hyped to be, which I assume is the old sativa "uplifting, euphoric, psychedelic" stuff, you'd be better off not chasing your tail and buy something like Ace's Golden Tiger, Thai's X Malawi's. Malawi X Panama or Zamaldelica
Golden Tiger
Genetics Koh Chang Thai, Hmong Thai x Malawi Killer Type sativa Cultivation indoor/outdoor/greenhouse THC 25-30% CBD >0.5% CBG 1% High very powerful, stimulating, cerebral Aroma floral, spicy, lemon, earthy Flowering time (indoor) 11-14 weeks Harvest time (outdoor) November Yield high Plant...shop.mandalaseeds.com
Would Mama Thai be okay?
50% Thai, 12.5% Lumbo & 37.5% DC…?
Looks a lot like thisOriginal Haze x Skunk#1 s1 from a 40 years old cutting.
Goeie môre Uncl Ben,
Would Mama Thai be okay?
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Mm/thai78 x pink pan-o-haze/nl87
CharlesU Farley
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Yeah, I don't think anyone on this forum would understand what ph's Yield-O-Rama was all about (I remember we both thought it was bullshit) and Potroast pleading for a just a gram per watt for God's sake!!!Gosh, wish I knew how to grow big plants.
Digging through the BCGA archive, I found this which may be of interest to you:
Wernard got most of his strains from a guy called old Ed and posies spec for haze used to be:-
Mostly Mexican and Colombian some southern Indian and Thai A pure breeding stabilised hybrid pure sativa appearance many slim flowers can be lime green, dark green, silver blue or purple smell/taste Incredible sticky sweet. almost sweet and sour smell high very potent, clear up, energetic high
height 2 -3 metres
yield med - high
harvest date Netherlands natural photo period - end December
12 hr exposure to harvest 12 to 16 weeks
For Holland they recommend glass or poly tunnel with darkening from June with 13 hrs dark to finish September for the best yields and potency. other info inbred 20 years, approx 5 to 10 % are special the rest just so so, 75% are female. This is very close to my strain except the very best go to between 16 and 18 weeks, homegrown must have done what they call improving the strain to reduce the hrs to 10 to 13 because thats not what posi started with. In fact it is very close to what you get with an F1 cross between original haze and original skunk No 1 which is probably closer to the truth.The other thing is to grow original haze well indoors light levels in excess of 100 w per sq ft are needed its not an economical crop.
Eric it is a 15 year old one off sorry!
All the best Ot1.
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I might add, I heard that their haze only took 10-13 weeks to flower compared to 12-16 weeks by others, and I wanted to find out why, so I e-mailed them to ask. Ot1, I recall you said the best haze took up to 18 weeks to flower, any comments? Peace<br>
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<br><b><font size=+1>T</font>ime</b> 18:42, 17 Nov 1998<br>
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Yep, Posi haze is mostly Columbian x Mexican with small amounts of thai and south Indian. It was created by "the Haze brothers" in California 20 years ago. Here's an email I got from Homegrown fantasy two days ago:<img src="/resources/spacer.gif" alt="" width=8>High there 76 ED !!
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Our Haze is indeed from Posi's genetics, the flowering times do differ. Hydro tends to be quicker. Bio ( on soil) we find cantake 1 - 2 weeks longer. 10 - 13 weeks would be most likely on a hydro base. Of course there is some variation from growroom to growroom, even though it's the same strain. Haze is one of our most popular strains and is well worth the wait. A real uphigh of cosmic proportions.
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Wishing you stickey fingers,Isolde & John>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eric, I agree, that's why I fought to grow the thai outdoors, only bringing it in to the HPS when temps went below 50 degrees. I just can't get potent plants growing indoors! I had a haze hybrid from Neville 9 years ago, and made thousands of seeds, but my house was broken in to, and all seeds stolen! Since then, getting more haze has been a real obsession with me. Peace<br>
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<br><b><font size=+1>T</font>ime</b> 17:44, 17 Nov 1998<br>
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Haze is a sativa hybrid. If I remember right, they mentioned mexican,columbian and thai in varying degrees. This would explain some of the variation I saw in the hybrids Nevil sent me. Some of the extreme sativa characteristics included one plant with a 6" sport in 24hrs. That happened right after the induction of flowering. Outdoors they would have been giants.
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<br><b><font size=+1>T</font>ime</b> 17:22, 17 Nov 1998<br>
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hey toker2 if im right i believe that haze is a satavia that has south american genetics
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my experience with the satavias is that outside they will knock you on the floor with a smile
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but the same clone inside will just give you a smile..
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so your assesment is correct..hell to tell you the truth EVERY STRAIN i have tried outdoors my friends grew inside and mine is always more potent....<br>Sorry to those wo can't read HTML... it's a cut 'n paste.
And UB, there wasn't a reference to TH that I could find _anywhere_ in the BCGA archive, so he hasn't been developing cannabis and posting shit about it online since the 90's like we have.
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Aalsmeer greenhouse 1986
Haarlem 1988 indoors
Haarlem 1988 indoors
RobFromTX
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All comes down to what youre use to i suppose and that includes tolerance. My daughter and her friends prefer concentrates. Pens, wax and all that shit. For the most part they consider flower an inferior product. One hit of wax makes me feel like one miserable bastard but that stuff is the new rave. Sometimes i miss picking seeds out of some nice brick to roll up a spliff. It was just as much a social ritual as it was about getting high and it had good time vibes you just don't find in todays scene. Now its about getting as high as possible as fast as you can. Thats why its important to preserve these landraces more than ever. Id rather smoke low thc weed with no bag appeal than something that makes me want to put on a straight jacket. Just one mans perspective. Like i said im getting old haha
And UB, there wasn't a reference to TH that I could find _anywhere_ in the BCGA archive, so he hasn't been developing cannabis and posting shit about it online since the 90's like we have.
Tom bought the Posi Hz in 1995
He joined Icmag in 2004
He was active in the old Overgrow and I got my first DC seeds in 2004...I think he was a member at least since 2002?
2001 or something hermano. I was Wildwood, then Tug, then Tom. Before that it was some early internet chat group style thing called weedbase or something.Tom bought the Posi Hz in 1995
He joined Icmag in 2004
He was active in the old Overgrow and I got my first DC seeds in 2004...I think he was a member at least since 2002?
CharlesU Farley
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I've been looking into his online presence and couldn't find anything in the '90s. I seem to remember you worked for him in Spain, if my decrepit memory is correct?Tom bought the Posi Hz in 1995
He joined Icmag in 2004
He was active in the old Overgrow and I got my first DC seeds in 2004...I think he was a member at least since 2002?
Nothing in adpc that I remember, unless he used a different nym and... in his best Chris Farley voice, "... for the love of God and all the Holy, don't get me started on Overgrow."
I just want to know if he's fucked around with the sexuality of cannabis and then sold and/or marketed the seeds?
In his best John Lovett voice... "Is that so wrong???"
I have grown cannabis and bred it for my own use for 40 years. If I have remnant seed I try to make it available to folks. I have tried to use middlemen once or twice but always got fucked. I have tried to be nice and polite but whether you guys like it or not a giant percentage of you are douchebag hippie clowns. It's just not really worth it I find it much more profitable to be as repulsive as is possible. So go fuck yourselves lol.
CharlesU Farley
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Sorry if I pissed you off, just wanted an answer to a question.
