Tom Hill Haze

[Rgd]

Glad you have one madmac

I like the ohz haze
but so far LED05’s Fat Green Durlumbo pheno is THE viagra for me
By a long shot

Pearly haze has some good energy
And i also have the “fat “skinny ohz
I like it too

I will have for to search again for the

ohz “viagra model”

 

[CannaT]

Comparing expirience while you are young and old is no sense.
Anybody who say when I was 16 weed hits me like that today is all garbage is just no sense man.

People that crave clear head high those 5% procent are like that.
That haze that crushed you while being young is silver haze,kali mist or 5haze...all haze hybrids.Didnt meet breeder that worked with haze that said that is good for smoke...all of them agree that is better for breeding purpose than smoking sessions.

Acid pheno dont exist.

 

[Green Highland]

Comparing expirience while you are young and old is no sense.
Anybody who say when I was 16 weed hits me like that today is all garbage is just no sense man.

People that crave clear head high those 5% procent are like that.
That haze that crushed you while being young is silver haze,kali mist or 5haze...all haze hybrids.Didnt meet breeder that worked with haze that said that is good for smoke...all of them agree that is better for breeding purpose than smoking sessions.

Acid pheno dont exist.

Acid pheno hunt is Like looking for the roadkill skunk. It’s nostalgia and memories. Before I ever heard the terms gas and fuel ️ I referred to that as “skunky”
If I would have smelled some kushy og back in the day I would have thought it stunk up my house with a gram baggie in a drawer just like a roadkill. Hindsight it probably was a chem or og or some putrid Hindu Kush or even NL 1 or 2 but it def wasn’t called roadkill skunk. I love haze but no weed will make me feel like I’m on acid at this point in my life. Maybe when I just started out smoking but not anymore. It’s chasing the dragon IMO. I still smoke some hazes and sativas that make my heart race and feel clear headed but it feels like cannabis. So I agree comparing weed when you were young to old is a little too based on nostalgia. I used to get hammered from a few beer….

 

[Hammerhead]

Those plants are gone, Those genetics are gone. I smoked as much weed as one could growing in Cali from the 60-90s. Interpretation can be very different for ea of us. Anything good made its rounds through Cali at some point. All we did was get high and race motocross. Ive never had any weed that gave me a slight trip ever. If some people say they were tripping ill take their word for it but ive never had that kind of high from any weed.. 99% of the weed we grew/smoked back then were Sativa hybrids. IMO Breeding with Haze is where the exceptional is.

 

[OntologicalTurn]

Comparing expirience while you are young and old is no sense.
Anybody who say when I was 16 weed hits me like that today is all garbage is just no sense man.

People that crave clear head high those 5% procent are like that.
That haze that crushed you while being young is silver haze,kali mist or 5haze...all haze hybrids.Didnt meet breeder that worked with haze that said that is good for smoke...all of them agree that is better for breeding purpose than smoking sessions.

Acid pheno dont exist.

Well i have really interesting trippy highs with dr grinspoon Pearl pheno ¿Quaze haze?

 

[Chi13]

Comparing expirience while you are young and old is no sense.
Anybody who say when I was 16 weed hits me like that today is all garbage is just no sense man.

People that crave clear head high those 5% procent are like that.
That haze that crushed you while being young is silver haze,kali mist or 5haze...all haze hybrids.Didnt meet breeder that worked with haze that said that is good for smoke...all of them agree that is better for breeding purpose than smoking sessions.

Acid pheno dont exist.

I've never had trip experiences from Haze and indeed didn't smoke Haze as far as I know until about 15 year ago.

I have trip like experiences with Thai Stick, Sumatran, and other unknown sativas dating back to the 70s and 80s. It's all very well to chalk those up to youth, but a couple of things make me think it wasn't just nostalgia. Firstly, in those days my tolerance was much higher. I smoked all day, every day, very few varieties got me really high, yet those experiences cut through everything.

Fast forward to a few years ago in Thailand and Laos. I had a few smokes while over there and some Laos I had was very similar to the old Thai stick. This is despite me growing and smoking many modern strains, yet nothing modern was like this. So in my humble opinion, you can compare highs from the past. They aren't just down to youth or tolerance. They existed then and exist now.

 

[Donald Mallard]

I've never had trip experiences from Haze and indeed didn't smoke Haze as far as I know until about 15 year ago.

I have trip like experiences with Thai Stick, Sumatran, and other unknown sativas dating back to the 70s and 80s. It's all very well to chalk those up to youth, but a couple of things make me think it wasn't just nostalgia. Firstly, in those days my tolerance was much higher. I smoked all day, every day, very few varieties got me really high, yet those experiences cut through everything.

Fast forward to a few years ago in Thailand and Laos. I had a few smokes while over there and some Laos I had was very similar to the old Thai stick. This is despite me growing and smoking many modern strains, yet nothing modern was like this. So in my humble opinion, you can compare highs from the past. They aren't just down to youth or tolerance. They existed then and exist now.

i agree 100 % ,
had a bit of a tripping experience on some thai weed around 2011 ,
in thailand, north east isaan province,
it was a little scary even , thought i was loosing the plot a bit ,
so it sure can be had and found still ,
i dont think sativa/indica hybrids have it though ,
and even with pure sativas , its best and perhaps even essential ,
that they are grown where they are from or similar latitude to deliver the full impact ....

id not had that sort of effect since i was younger and we had imported south east asian weed ,
and folks were growing them in the aussie tropics too getting much the same thing ...

 

[*GROWHIGH*]

tolerance plays a massive part when it comes to expectational experience's from cannabis ...in the same way a heavy drinker isn't going to get silly and giddy from a few drinks and often able to 'drink them selves sober' which doesn't mean literally, but means they never really get past a curtain level of intoxication no matter how much they drink .. a heavy smoker isn't going to be peeking out of the curtains after a joint of even the best haze, and often able to smoke haze joints all day,and i speak from personal experience, the most trippy experiences for me personally only really come after periods of sobriety, either as a young none smoker ..or after periods of sobriety in adulthood

 

[windmills]

"Fast forward to a few years ago in Thailand and Laos. I had a few smokes while over there and some Laos I had was very similar to the old Thai stick."

Home grown cannabis, grown by homeboys, out-of-doors, in the tropics, on the equator. I cannot enumerate the vast number of experiences I have had that are similar. I do believe that organic equatorial weed has it all. Cheers

 

[Chi13]

tolerance plays a massive part when it comes to expectational experience's from cannabis ...in the same way a heavy drinker isn't going to get silly and giddy from a few drinks and often able to 'drink them selves sober' which doesn't mean literally, but means they never really get past a curtain level of intoxication no matter how much they drink .. a heavy smoker isn't going to be peeking out of the curtains after a joint of even the best haze, and often able to smoke haze joints all day,and i speak from personal experience, the most trippy experiences for me personally only really come after periods of sobriety, either as a young none smoker ..or after periods of sobriety in adulthood

I had trippy highs when my tolerance was at an all time high, so I can't agree. These super trippy weeds cut through everything. I'm talking about a typical day of all day smoking, then getting some trip weed at night and it cutting through all other highs. Another level completely.

I gave up for a decade at one stage and when I began again in the early 2000s nothing I got was trippy until I went to Thailand/Laos. Even now, I take breaks of between a month and three months and following that, sure I get higher than I did before, but not trip weed high.

I am not trying to discount others experiences but personally I am 100% convinced that trip highs exist, independent of tolerance.

 

[CannaT]

I've never had trip experiences from Haze and indeed didn't smoke Haze as far as I know until about 15 year ago.

I have trip like experiences with Thai Stick, Sumatran, and other unknown sativas dating back to the 70s and 80s. It's all very well to chalk those up to youth, but a couple of things make me think it wasn't just nostalgia. Firstly, in those days my tolerance was much higher. I smoked all day, every day, very few varieties got me really high, yet those experiences cut through everything.

Fast forward to a few years ago in Thailand and Laos. I had a few smokes while over there and some Laos I had was very similar to the old Thai stick. This is despite me growing and smoking many modern strains, yet nothing modern was like this. So in my humble opinion, you can compare highs from the past. They aren't just down to youth or tolerance. They existed then and exist now.

You can compare nobody say you cant.
But its just no sense.
No mather what you think.

again that trippy Thai...
Its so funny that breeders in 70-80 didnt prise Thai weed at all.
And is very little used in breeding.
Sam has been there few times,didnt find anything special in that golden time before 1985.
While Mid and south American and Indian strains also as Paky,Afghan that border with India are used mostly.
Did you know that one of the favourites Sativa Neville had was Pakistani Sativa...??

Shure you dont cuz Thai is that one...

 

[Donald Mallard]

i beg to differ ,,
sams says the best 2 varieties he has had were haze ,
and golden thai ,
so yea i think he did like it and its in some haze ,
for all you know , u have tried it without knowing ,

the amount of folks that prize thai stick ,
you would start thinking it might have been at least ok ,hahaha ..

i actually think you have no idea what you are talking about here canna ,
not even a clue ...

 

[Taima-da]

Nah. It was real good.
A grower I knew gave up growing when he lost his worked Sumatran line cos there is nothing like it in the modern.

'You're not ready for this' -kind of effect, terrifying, but beautiful and awe inspiring.

A lot of stuff on this side of the world is/was worked from S.E. Asian lines.

Angus from TRSC points out that even on the Indian subcontinent ganja from Aceh in particular was prized way back- in antiquity

 

[Chi13]

You can compare nobody say you cant.
But its just no sense.
No mather what you think.

again that trippy Thai...
Its so funny that breeders in 70-80 didnt prise Thai weed at all.
And is very little used in breeding.
Sam has been there few times,didnt find anything special in that golden time before 1985.
While Mid and south American and Indian strains also as Paky,Afghan that border with India are used mostly.
Did you know that one of the favourites Sativa Neville had was Pakistani Sativa...??

Shure you dont cuz Thai is that one...

Thai stick was absolutely the most sought after primo bud around when I first started smoking. Almost nothing compared. There was very little breeding back then as far as I was aware? We just got what we could and if it had seeds and was good we grew it, and crossed it but with no real breeding in mind. Later, breeders gravitated toward skunk first as it yielded well at the time. I gave up somewhere around 1990 for nearly a decade and when I started again everything had changed.

If you haven't had the experiences I've had then not much I can say will convince you, but I have thought about this a lot; my experiences when my tolerance was highest and those fantastic rare highs that just cut through everything. I would doubt it too, as we often glorify the past, but my time in Laos in particular convinced that my early experience was real, and not due to youth, tolerance, or nostalgia.

Anyway, to those that have got Tom's seed, I hope you find it.

 

[Old Uncle Ben]

There is tripping and then there is tripping.

There is a huge mental (cerebral) and sensual difference between trips you get from peyote and good LSD and pot, at least what we did in the 60's, and I did a LOT of psychedelics. It was just a part of that hippie time. One with nature kind of thing especially doing cool stuff like surfing at sunrise while still tripping from the night before. 8-12 hour tripping. Those kind of highs, trips, take on a very clear feel or look cerebrally with many visuals - walls and floors melting, colors coming from the speakers, music sounding incredible with an astral projection experience when we ate 7 buttons in one session or drank a lot of peyote tea. (YECH!) We're talking doing Blue Cheer....... and harvesting 100's of buttons in the Rio Grande valley before there was any checkpoints once you got away from the Tex-Mex border. No way is a cannabis "trip" the same experience and I've smoked incredible thai stick and what we called "acid weed" which "they say" was laced with DMT, a short term pychedelic.

Having said that, one reason I bought Ace seeds of Malawi/Panama/Golden Tiger genetics is because of the claim that it's long term trippy weed, and, I don't have to do a trial and error drill. This 100% sativa hybrid follows in the wake of our development of super powerful and high yielding sativa hybrids between Malawi and Panama, where Golden Tiger's Thai genetics adds even more trippy effects if possible. https://www.aceseeds.org/en/goldentigerxpanama-feminized-seeds.html

Chew on this Nevil's haze cross! This translates into a more cerebral, cleaner high and less heavy body effects within the trippy and devastating psychoactivity of these extremely potent sativas from Malawi and Thailand. The greater Thai influence also implies less dense floral structures and slightly longer flowering times, although this 3rd version continues to offer the usual extreme effects and yields of our Golden Tiger. https://www.aceseeds.org/en/goldentigerxa5haze-fem.html

We shall see.

Uncle Ben

 

[Hammerhead]

Thai Stick was def some of the best weed we had come through. The flavor and high were some of the best. People stopped using Chemotypes as a criterion for selection. From what I remember Thai had Caryophyllene/Camphor aromas.. I find these terps often in high quality weed..

 

[exoticrobotic]

Camphor aromas.

These pine aromas were in Mexican weed that caused open eye visual hallucinations.

After smoking a small pinner between 4 of us suddenly purple floating colours apeared in the shadows oscillating between purple and green. Edges started wavering and i was staring in awe at things as i tried to work out wtf had happened and what exactly i was seeing. I laid back and stared at the stars in fits of hysterics.

I've had oevs with some stinky rks smelling bigbud funky skunk in 1991. It was extremely strong but caused an unpleasant high with paranoia. Everyone had plastic glowing faces.

I also got visuals with some unknown lemon tasting pearl looking strain that i grew. That had major colour brightening and space/time distortions too.

But that's it.

No oevs with tom's haze unfortunately. Nice cevs though and after smoking it for months i started having some very profound and trippy thoughts and i was peeking out the curtains thinking mad things.

But overall i found it more of an energetic cocaine buzz with heightened ego. Very nice for a short while but not the desert island visual smoke i had hoped for.

I ran only 5. I hope others will find more of a visual hallucinatory effect in this seed rather than the mental hallucinatory effect i found.

I dunno, maybe that mental thought effect is what is regarded as acid trippy in the thh line but it's not how i would describe acid trippy.

When i think acid weed... i think Visuals

I need potent visually hallucinogenic weed with ego vanishing.

Is this bliss available in THH?

I hope so. I do know it can be found within Cannabis.

 

[Hammerhead]

Ive never had a high like that from weed. I have had instances of paranoia. I still experience that sometimes..

Camphor alone smells similar to weak mothballs, menthol-like or spicy wintergreen. When mixed with Caryophyllene it enhances the spiciness. I don't get much of the Camphor aroma when a strong Caryophyllene present. When there are multiple strong terpenes it changes the dominant aromas completely. Any terps with a spicy aroma produce super nice chemotypes. The stronger those terps are the better.


Pine has been easy to find in lots of projects where A5hbx was used ..My current Pine Bud keeper is very nice. These genetics are in the p420 project.

 

[Sub24ox7]

I love camphor terps and I have found them in thh, nh21 x mm, oss x mm, thunk, and other Thai and Thai crosses.
I have only got small visuals with weed and not in decades.I feel like trippy weed will make you think differently from a creative perspective and can make you feel closer to nature but not full on trip. I got ego boost and speedy energy from thh, I have only grown 6 female thh though.
I personally feel like seedsman o-haze is the most speedy clear weed I have ever had.
I crossed thh with a bunch of other Thai and Thai crosses can’t wait to get to them

 

[*GROWHIGH*]

I had trippy highs when my tolerance was at an all time high, so I can't agree. These super trippy weeds cut through everything. I'm talking about a typical day of all day smoking, then getting some trip weed at night and it cutting through all other highs. Another level completely.

I gave up for a decade at one stage and when I began again in the early 2000s nothing I got was trippy until I went to Thailand/Laos. Even now, I take breaks of between a month and three months and following that, sure I get higher than I did before, but not trip weed high.

I am not trying to discount others experiences but personally I am 100% convinced that trip highs exist, independent of tolerance.

well i know for certain 'trip' highs exist, the experience is obviously nuanced and subtle when compared to real LSD , and of course, no matter how heavy the smoker is , they can still discern potency, quality of high, mood enhancements ect, but for me personally, the only times iv experienced loss of control, the only memorable freak outs iv experienced have come when tolerance is zero, when my tolerance is high, the same strain that would make a cow jump over the moon, i can smoke until the cows come home