"Demonstration beats conversation "
ive sifted through a few of these hazes. i honestly think it would take a minimum of 24 months to do a seed pop, pull clones, test puff approx. 70 girls and come to a confident conclusion all while maintaining 70 lanky ass clones...5% is marketing gimmic, poor breeding or both, choose wisely
PS: ask SamS how he went about testing 10,000 -
My momma always used to say, “believe nothing of which you hear & half of what you see”
Peace & Love
Of the hundreds of packs I’ve bought I’ve not found 80 percent keepers at all. A lot of garbage and hype. The polyhybrid crap shoot in my opinion is all about hype and no substance. In the last 4 years of growing and discovering Instagram for seed buying I’ve kept 3 plants out of hundreds grown. Keepers in every pack is Not the reality I’m experiencing with a lot of breeders that have that claim. It’s a sales gimmick,nothing more. Every plant on my own Instagram except two are not keepers but the photos look pretty and like keepers. Everything is a one and done. Truly exceptional plants in any gene pool from my 25 years of experience with this plant are rare and when I see a breeder claiming keepers in every pack from the latest pollen Chuck and untested line it makes me chuckle a little. I fell for the hype the last few years and as I’ve grown out pack after pack it’s easy to see it’s a bottlenecked shit show of less than average weed with great bag appeal. I would say less than5 percent actual keepers from my own personal experience.
sounds very honest.
I try and run as many from clone or a reveg and then clone as well as I always usually give a second chance if something was decent, some more don’t bother with, like stuff with zero smells. While they’re usually a little better it’s usually still the same. I’ve had breeders tell me to run the hermie from clone because the herm will stop producing balls with the clone, while true that is also lame as fuck. How about don’t make herm prone lines and release them and tell people to run from clone? That is not a keeper and that style of breeding is running rampant in this industry to take advantage of noobs and people that only want to wash plants for hash.
Careful hapi don't scare them with science just yet, it will take time and patience for them to cross over in meiosis opinion
I apply an empirical rule, and a very simple one: the plants I like pass the test, the rest don't.5% is marketing gimmic, poor breeding or both, choose wisely
PS: ask SamS how he went about testing 10,000 -
My momma always used to say, “believe nothing of which you hear & half of what you see”
Peace & Love
that’s all I do year round as you know - and have been for a very long time….and that’s right it was tested 10000 Males - so much better !
Who said 80% keepers…?
You bulk then you play - exactly as one should
To be honest subcools 5 packs were pretty much packed full of keepers. That being sed if you didn't grow them the way they liked to be grown then you would think there was no keepers. There isn't really such a thing as an objective keeper because if you pop a pack and give me a cut of each plant and then we compare results, the one that did the best in your grow, will generally not be the best in mine. Some plants like to be pushed hard because they were selected over generations of heavy feeding and high ppfd lighting. Others can hardly take nutes. Polyhibreds will often have 1 pheno that likes alot of nutes an another that doesn't. Or some that like alot of one specific component and others that don't. Most people never grow enough in different ways/environments to actually learn how to feel a plant out, dial it in and determine which pheno is actually better. They speak as though it is simple, but really there are many less then quantified variables and growing is as much an art as a science. It's not something that can be copied, it's a skill for which instincts have to be honed over long periods of time. Science is usefull for pointing in what may possibly be the right direction to explore, but nothing can replace thousands of hours of messing around with a shitload of different strains and a shitload of different environments in which to grow them and seeing how the same clone performs differently in different environments. I personally think that the range of potentials that this plant has even in one hybrid clone is far greater then the average layperson can fathom especially without testing in many different environments and that the way people reduce selection to something as simple as "keepers/not keepers" is a little annoying. But it is what it is lol.
