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The Trump Countdown Thread

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Cannavore

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imagine looking at this and thinking this is a normal congressional republican voting district.

just by looking at this i can almost hear the people's voices who drew this up.

"squiggle around that part, dan... there's too many blacks in that neighborhood"

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med4u

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That's true but every nomination must get confirmation vote. Merrick Garland never got a vote. Like I said Moscow Mitch prevented a legal nomination by not allowing a vote that he was bound to give. Doesn't matter whos in power. They seem to make up there own shit .. .

Your speaking in hammerisms again....your making up your own shit with that post...
Google the process and see if what you say makes sense ..C'MON MAN!
 

Hammerhead

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Your speaking in hammerisms again....your making up your own shit with that post...
Google the process and see if what you say makes sense ..C'MON MAN!


Ive already looked it up. Merrick Garland was legally obligated to get his vote. He didn't that's a fact why argue and insult. C'MON MAN! this isn't personal. I wont take the bait for any of you guys again.
 

'Boogieman'

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imagine looking at this and thinking this is a normal congressional republican voting district.

just by looking at this i can almost hear the people's voices who drew this up.

"squiggle around that part, dan... there's too many blacks in that neighborhood"

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I thought House and Senate seats go by a states popular vote, what does gerrymandering have to do with it?
 

'Boogieman'

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they remap their districts after every 2 election cycles (in other words they're cheating). usually with republicans it's to cut democrats, black and minorities out of their districts. democrats do it too but republicans are notorious for this.

look up Thomas Hoffeler


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpamjJtXqFI

How does this effect the Senate if seats are chosen by a states popular vote? Democrats practice gerrymandering in democrat run states from a quick Google search.
 

Hammerhead

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How does this effect the Senate if seats are chosen by a states popular vote? Democrats practice gerrymandering in democrat run states from a quick Google search.
Partisan gerrymandering has benefited Republicans more than Democrats for a long time. If you look at the data this is true.
The analysis found four times as many states with Republican-skewed state House or Assembly districts than Democratic ones.
 

'Boogieman'

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Partisan gerrymandering has benefited Republicans more than Democrats for a long time. If you look at the data this is true.
The analysis found four times as many states with Republican-skewed state House or Assembly districts than Democratic ones.

How does gerrymandering effect the United states Senate when the winner is decided it by a states popular vote?
 

Hammerhead

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gerrymandering skews all results including the popular vote..

Gerrymandering is when a political group tries to change a voting district to create a result that helps them or hurts the group who is against them. ... It puts more votes of winners into the district they will win so the losers win in another district. It is a way that governing parties try to cement themselves in power by tilting the political map steeply in their favor. The goal is to draw boundaries of legislative districts so that as many seats as possible are likely to be won by the party’s candidates. Drafters accomplish it mainly through two practices commonly called packing and cracking.
 

'Boogieman'

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gerrymandering skews all results including the popular vote..

Gerrymandering is when a political group tries to change a voting district to create a result that helps them or hurts the group who is against them. ... It puts more votes of winners into the district they will win so the losers win in another district.

You can't gerrymandering a states popular vote which is why you can't gerrymandering a presidential election.
 

audiohi

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You can make a lot of election related decisions when you win a gerrymandered state. Things like polling locations and mail in ballots, which DO affect senate elections.
 

'Boogieman'

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You can make a lot of election related decisions when you win a gerrymandered state. Things like polling locations and such which DO affect senate elections.

Finally a reasonable answer. Now my question is if Republicans gerrymandering away from black neighborhoods wouldn't the Democrats (assuming it's their district) be responsible for opening more places to vote? Or is it up to whoever has the majority in the state? (I don't know the answer to this).
 

audiohi

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Each state has its own practices. I'd assume in most cases, what the governor says, goes. As long as he/she has the legislature behind him.

In North Carolina, one of the most gerrymandered states, the general assembly decides polling locations.

In 2018, Republican candidates for the state Senate and House got less than half of the vote but won more than half of the seats in each chamber. While in office, they used their majority power to restrict voting rights, further distancing themselves from accountability at the ballot box.

That year, the General Assembly passed legislation requiring voters to use one of 10 types of photo identification at the ballot box, such as driver’s licenses or passports, but forbidding types that Black voters are more likely to have, according to the report.

Gov. Roy Cooper vetoed the bill, but the GOP majority — along with two Democrats — overrode the veto. A court has since blocked the law because of its discriminatory effect.
 

Microbeman

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I'm rooting for our 2A rights to finally be restored the way the constitution intended. Automatic weapons that can be physically carried should be 100% legal.


"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

It seems apparent to me that this right is inclusive of being engaged in a well-regulated Militia. Do you belong to one?

It also seems to allow possession of arms by individual citizens but does not detail the reason.

What about an interpretation that one can bear arms with a capacity for personal defense and/or hunting but one can only possess a weapon intended for mass destruction and assault as a component of a well-regulated Militia?
 

Microbeman

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over 60% of americans in polls support the winner of the election picking the scotus. so as usual boogie thinks he's on the right side of the issue lol.

and as usual boogie is looking at the causes of a corrupt system (just as you do on the subject of BLM/racism) as if they are the true will of the people lol. republican districts are gerrymandered to shit. they literally cannot win without doing this and other vote suppression tactics.

This is completely true.
 

'Boogieman'

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"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

It seems apparent to me that this right is inclusive of being engaged in a well-regulated Militia. Do you belong to one?

It also seems to allow possession of arms by individual citizens but does not detail the reason.

What about an interpretation that one can bear arms with a capacity for personal defense and/or hunting but one can only possess a weapon intended for mass destruction and assault as a component of a well-regulated Militia?

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Look into this more, they give people the right to bear arms AND join a well regulated militia if necessary to protect our freedoms.
 
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