The Trump Countdown Thread

[Absolem]

Race and guns.

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act

Throughout the late 1960s, the militant black nationalist group used their understanding of the finer details of California’s gun laws to underscore their political statements about the subjugation of African-Americans. In 1967, 30 members of the Black Panthers protested on the steps of the California statehouse armed with .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns and .45-caliber pistols and announced, “The time has come for black people to arm themselves.”

The display so frightened politicians—including California governor Ronald Reagan—that it helped to pass the Mulford Act, a state bill prohibiting the open carry of loaded firearms, along with an addendum prohibiting loaded firearms in the state Capitol. The 1967 bill took California down the path to having some of the strictest gun laws in America and helped jumpstart a surge of national gun control restrictions.

 

[Absolem]

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Look into this more, they give people the right to bear arms AND join a well regulated militia if necessary to protect our freedoms.

If you want to understand the 2nd Amendment and how the SCOTUS has ruled on it you should post the 5 court cases then discuss from there. You giving your interruption of what the 2nd Amendment means to you is meaningless.

 

['Boogieman']

If you want to understand the 2nd Amendment and how the SCOTUS has ruled on it you should post the 5 court cases then discuss from there. You giving your interruption of what the 2nd Amendment means to you is meaningless.

I own guns so apparently they did something right. And when the new Supreme Court Justice is sworn in my rights will be restored as intended.

 

[Absolem]

I own guns so apparently they did something right. And when the new Supreme Court Justice is sworn in my rights will be restored as intended.

What gun "rights" have been taken away from you???? You have every right to buy an automatic weapon. It just has to be through a licensed dealer who can sell them.

 

['Boogieman']

Race and guns.

https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act

Throughout the late 1960s, the militant black nationalist group used their understanding of the finer details of California’s gun laws to underscore their political statements about the subjugation of African-Americans. In 1967, 30 members of the Black Panthers protested on the steps of the California statehouse armed with .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns and .45-caliber pistols and announced, “The time has come for black people to arm themselves.”

The display so frightened politicians—including California governor Ronald Reagan—that it helped to pass the Mulford Act, a state bill prohibiting the open carry of loaded firearms, along with an addendum prohibiting loaded firearms in the state Capitol. The 1967 bill took California down the path to having some of the strictest gun laws in America and helped jumpstart a surge of national gun control restrictions.

That was like 60 years ago though. All men are created equal means black people have the right to bear arms just like anyone else as intended in our constitution.

 

[Absolem]

That was like 60 years ago though. All men are created equal means black people have the right to bear arms just like anyone else as intended in our constitution.

The GOP didn't think so back then.

They were more afraid of skin color then the gun itself.

 

['Boogieman']

What gun "rights" have been taken away from you???? You have every right to buy an automatic weapon. It just has to be through a licensed dealer who can sell them.

I can't buy automatic weapons which is against the will of our founding fathers and the constitution.

 

[Absolem]

I can't buy automatic weapons which is against the will of our founding fathers and the constitution.

Yes you can. Look into it and be ready to fork over some money.

https://www.gunbroker.com/Machine-Guns/search

 

[Microbeman]

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Look into this more, they give people the right to bear arms AND join a well regulated militia if necessary to protect our freedoms.

Does not address my question.

It is an old debate. Looking into it more does nothing. What is written is written and there are several court decisions along the way.

 

['Boogieman']

The GOP didn't think so back then.

They were more afraid of skin color then the gun itself.

I don't care what happened in the land before time, I care about today. The GOP was wrong in the 60's it's their constitutional right to bear arms.

 

['Boogieman']

Yes you can. Look into it and be ready to fork over some money.

https://www.gunbroker.com/Machine-Guns/search

I shouldn't have to go through loops or pay to achieve my constitutional rights.

 

[Absolem]

I don't care what happens in the land before time, I care about today.

Those people during the "land before time" were just as American as you. Guess you just want special rights.

 

[Microbeman]

I own guns so apparently they did something right. And when the new Supreme Court Justice is sworn in my rights will be restored as intended.

in what way?

 

[Microbeman]

I can't buy automatic weapons which is against the will of our founding fathers and the constitution.

Please explain that in terms of the legal statement.

 

['Boogieman']

Those people during the "land before time" were just as American as you. Guess you just want special rights.

I don't know shit about the 60's but I definitely agree that "all men are created equal" means just that. It seems like the 20's through the 60's were a time of tierney.

 

['Boogieman']

Please explain that in terms of the legal statement.

The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.

 

['Boogieman']

in what way?

The Supreme Court can go back and change a previous decision.

 

[Microbeman]

The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.

This does not leave an open end to any sort of weapon. Should I be allowed to possess a nuke? a ton of ricin? how about biological?

There is a reason why the two statements were tied together in the amendment, to give the amendment purpose.

 

[Microbeman]

The Supreme Court can go back and change a previous decision.

and what decision are you looking forward to them changing which will restore your rights as intended?

 

['Boogieman']

and what decision are you looking forward to them changing which will restore your rights as intended?

The national firearms act of 1934 should be ruled unconstitutional.

Amy Barret (from Indiana )is a very strong advocate of restoring our right to bear arms as originally intended. She even believes felons have the right to bear arms when convicted of non violent crimes (now Indiana law) which I agree with.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw2EjcCkhMo6vm_SYNwPoH7b&cshid=1600801989023