The Search for Trip Weed

[ThaiBliss]

Wow Dave! That is really looking great. Thanks for posting here. I can't wait to see how long that goes before you consider it ripe, and how it looks then.

I have my plants picked out for my next round, but I'm thinking of giving the Mullumbimby x Neville's Haze x Gypsy Thai Stick another go. It might be a good pairing with the Khmer Gold and/or the Zamal x Thai x Haze (possibly Tom Hill's Haze, coincidentally).

Tom Hill - Thanks for dropping by and posting here. Very curious as to your thoughts, tips, and opinions on anything you'd like to address. It is so cool to have renowned breeders on ICMAG. Isn't it the truth about the cuttings or lack thereof.


Bangi Haze update: I was in the outdoor garden early yesterday morning and the light was shining on the buds in a way that revealed lots of resin forming on the Super Skinny Christmas Tree Bangi, that I do have a cutting of. I can't help worry about ripening date with an outdoor plant that looks like that so far north. It was good to see the resin showing up.

ThaiBliss

 

[Dave Coulier]

I figure I will wait until the foxtails are a foot long and then Ill chop her.

She's going to go another month and Ill evaluate her then. She's just ten days shy of when I harvested the mother plant, but I think that was early then, so Im going longer this time. Once harvested, Im going to attempt the cob-curing that Ive read about in Tangwena's thread. I can't wait to try it out. It should be fun.

All those options you have there are pretty damned tempting. I can't see how you can go wrong, no matter what choice. Im excited about the Khmer Gold, and I can't wait to see how it turns out in your garden.

P.S. Thanks for the love on the Thai Stick A post everyone. She must be prettier than I ever imagined hehe.

Wow Dave! That is really looking great. Thanks for posting here. I can't wait to see how long that goes before you consider it ripe, and how it looks then.

I have my plants picked out for my next round, but I'm thinking of giving the Mullumbimby x Neville's Haze x Gypsy Thai Stick another go. It might be a good pairing with the Khmer Gold and/or the Zamal x Thai x Haze (possibly Tom Hill's Haze, coincidentally).

Tom Hill - Thanks for dropping by and posting here. Very curious as to your thoughts, tips, and opinions on anything you'd like to address. It is so cool to have renowned breeders on ICMAG. Isn't it the truth about the cuttings or lack thereof.


Bangi Haze update: I was in the outdoor garden early yesterday morning and the light was shining on the buds in a way that revealed lots of resin forming on the Super Skinny Christmas Tree Bangi, that I do have a cutting of. I can't help worry about ripening date with an outdoor plant that looks like that so far north. It was good to see the resin showing up.

ThaiBliss

 

[Donald Mallard]

Im keen to hear how the toke on that thai is also Dave ,
glad folks like yourself are patient enough to run those types indoors ,
4.5 months flowering is a long time , but im sure its going to be worth it ..

Toms statement is one i often ponder ,
yes i know theres some great cuttings around,
however , theres a good chance even better ones have been tossed aside ,
or are still waiting to be found ,
for that reason i think we all should be still sprouting as many seeds as we can,
theres still plenty of gold in them there seeds to be found yet ..

 

[Madjag]

You da man, Duck

 

[Bob Green]

Thai, Jaggy, Donald, Dave, Tom, THCV, Siever


A lot of hardcore satva badassery is going down on this page do doubt. Always a pleasure my fellow tripweed hunters. We are a sick, and twisted bunch indeed!

Take it easy gents

 

[Siever]

Siever
Take it easy

Hi Bob/everybody,

I'm sorry, but I won't. Hardcore to the bone! I know it sounds exaggerated, but I have this feeling that if I take strain selection easy that it would make me (look like) a pollen chucker.
Making your own new strain is not only about finding that rare gem within a strain (for example the electrifying pheno in Tom Hills haze), but also to find (an)other strain(s) to blend with this phenotype.
Of course in those other strain(s) you'll need to find the very best pheno's as well.
I have the impression that if you use a stabilize strain you don't need hundreds of seeds to find that special gem, because most of them are real gems. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this point!
First I make f3/f4 from my favorite strains and then I'll cross those, so it would take me back to f1.
With a bit of luck I would have created a sativa superlativa.

Siever

 

[420cloud]

sieversiever Im not sure on the issue with the breeding finding a gem , Could be true but Yeah

 

[Thcvhunter]

Thai, Jaggy, Donald, Dave, Tom, THCV, Siever


A lot of hardcore satva badassery is going down on this page do doubt. Always a pleasure my fellow tripweed hunters. We are a sick, and twisted bunch indeed!

Take it easy gents

We all run Towards the weed that makes everyone else run Away in terror

 

[Tonygreen]

you should know by now if you don't keep cuttings it will be bomb,, if u do,, shwag. we can almost set our clocks by this lol.

Why do i always miss cuttings of a plant that turns out bad ass lol

 

[bigtacofarmer]

It happens curing too. I've cloned and kept a mom. Cured a month or so and thought I didn't like it. As soon as I cull the Mom the last cured bud will make me question if I should have killed her.

 

[Dr.King]

Siever,
On paper the Destroyer makes more sense to mate with Zamaldelica as they both share the powerful Meao Thai.
Now, if you can find that freak thai / wheat pheno of Destroyer to hit the Zamal/Thai pheno of Zamaldelica ..... you'd be a deity in my book

I got a pretty nice Thai pheno of Zamaldelica in one of my tents. Just waiting for more Destroyer to get dropped so I may cross her. Been waiting to do this for sometime now just waiting for more beans to drop . Good luck to others finding their Trip weed.

 

[ThaiBliss]

I got a pretty nice Thai pheno of Zamaldelica in one of my tents. Just waiting for more Destroyer to get dropped so I may cross her. Been waiting to do this for sometime now just waiting for more beans to drop . Good luck to others finding their Trip weed.

Dr. King and THCVhunter - I like your thinking. I believe the trip combination of genes is recessive. There are probably many different combinations of genes that give us the trip weed, and many types of trip variations, given that I think ratios of THC to other various cannabinoids are largely responsible. The possibilities are endless even without considering the ratios of and presence of specific terpenes. This double whammy of mind bending combination possibilities is what makes it so elusive, and is also what has kept my interest in weed for so long. Even in the days that I remember when trip weed was more common and couch-lock was rare, it was still the exceptional high grade weed that gave me the trippy effects. Therefore, I think combining/inbreeding lines with common trip weed parental lines is the path most likely to achieve results. Thai plant lineages definitely qualify for the trip effect I have in mind. This is one reason why so many of us have been collecting Thai crosses, the other being that pure Thai weed is one of the most difficult to grow indoors.

I look forward to postings of the progress you are making. I'd sure like to see pictures of your Zamaldelica plant, and the Destroyer plants that you raise.

Thanks,

ThaiBliss

 

[ThaiBliss]

Trip Grow Journal Entry

Trip Grow Journal Entry

I have been out of town for much of the last two weeks, and have returned to find many changes in my gardens. The outdoor garden has started an accelerated rush towards ripening. Flowers are swelling and resin is being applied generously now. Aromas are increasing and becoming more complex. The previous standout, LA Confidential, is still going strong with it's peppery aroma, but Fruity Pebbles is now making quite a show. It is the smallest plant but is producing the most dominant aroma in the garden.

Fruity Pebbles was one of many plants that I put out as cuttings, which developed spring flowers before going back into vegetative growth. Most of the buds died after having sprouted out a few branches. With the threat of rain looming a couple of weeks ago, I removed those dead buds as well as dead leaves and small recessive branches. The dead buds would have acted as sponges for rain water and become mold magnets. The old buds of Fruity Pebbles were very sweet and weedy (old school pot) smelling. The fall buds that are now developing are also sweet and weedy. They are more weedy than sweet at the moment. That old school pot aroma is attracting my attention. It is exciting to observe that it is so pungent as well as a memory triggering pot smell. I don't smell weed like that so much anymore.

The other smell that is now present in Fruity Pebbles is... fruitiness. It is the funky overripe fruit smell that reminds me of a very good Burmese plant I once had and wish I still had. It was trippy. The strange thing is... many plants have now developed a fruity note to them. My outdoors seed line has Burmese in it, but have not shown fruitiness in the previous years I grew them, and neither of the plants from this year up until this point. One has been skunky/lemon and the other has been lemon menthol smelling. Both have added the fruitiness lately. These plants have Burmese in the lineage, but the Bangi Haze and most of the other plants are giving off fruity aromas now. The only exceptions are the LA Confidential and the Nepal Jam, which are predominately peppery or spicy.

I'm starting to think the fertilizer I have been using might be encouraging the fruity terpenes. I have been using Azomite, which I believe is some type of finely ground volcanic rock. I did not add this until the middle of July. I am trying this because of reading so many posts that claim to link potent weed with volcanic soils. I live in an area of volcanic soils, but also various other soil types. I have at least three different soil types on my 10 acres of land. The geology here is very complex. I thought it could not hurt to make sure that this volcanic element was included in the garden. I have had good luck with the red dirt soil that is here, but now that I am not hiding my plants under trees and brush, the best location for sunlight just happens to be in an area with a thin layer of red dirt over a layer of decomposed granite. I have not had much experience growing in decomposed granite. I'm not sure it is working out well since I had a couple of Bangi Hazes that I grew last year turn out potent, but a bit harsh tasting. I think I should do a test with two cuttings of the same plant, one in a pot with red dirt only, and the other in a pot with decomposed granite only, both with no amendments. I should do the same with Azomite and no Azomite. These tests take a long time to do. If anyone has experience with these soils, please speak up.

My indoor garden:
The Panama Haze is looking like it is just weeks away from harvest. There is only a spritzing of white pistils left at the ends of the fox-tails.

The Jamaican ganja plant aroma is dominating the cabinet. It is peppery, but also medicinal and a "fresh" aroma. It reminds me of the special freaky Neville's Haze I had. The "fresh" aroma is similar to the aroma I smell immediately after a thunderstorm. I'm hoping for "lightning in a bottle" from this plant. LOL. I think that smell is actually some very, very, faint menthol/mint aroma.

The Punto Rojo plant is starting to show some reddish/purple colors in the older calyxes. The dead pistils are also a reddish brown color.

The bad news is that I found spider mite eggs and leaf damage on some leaves. The spider mite problem in my vegetation cabinet has migrated to the flowering cabinet in the same room. This is very bad because the Jamaican and Punto Rojo have about 3 months to go before getting ripe. I believe the buds will be covered with spider mite webbing before they get done. Hopefully, I can get a sense of the quality of the plants even though they will not be at their best.

All the Best in your Trip Search,

ThaiBliss

 

[bigbag]

20 mls of 70-99% ISO, 20 mls of 29-20% food grade H202 and several drops of dr.bronners soap per ltr makes a highly volatile spraying mixture that fvcks up mites big time with minimal plant damage...

 

[Siever]

ISO=isopropyl alcohol?

 

[Siever]

sieversiever Im not sure on the issue with the breeding finding a gem , Could be true but Yeah

How would one else find a true gem?

Siever

 

[Thcvhunter]

TB,

Sorry to hear about the mites.
Try and get your plants as much Silica and Calcium as you can get them to help them defend temselves against the mites.

A teaspoon if Protekt and 5 drops of Lavender and 5 drops of rosemary oil per gallon is safe in mid flower if you spray downand away from the plant, focusing on the fan leaves.

 

[Lacocina]

Sorry about the mites T.B.

Making me anxious on my Orange fruity Pebbles for next season

My Panama x Zamaldelica plant is still flowering very well since May very dense, smell is of vanilla and a pungent, sweet burnt rubber if that makes any since.... I'm going to let her go as long as she can unless it rains too much...Long spears from the base up to about 4.5' I have never grown a plant in continual flower .. I'm guessing the Zamal is the reason ?
Very sticky wet stems.

Fan leaves are different as well three and fives.

Anybody else grow something similar please chime in.

 

[satva]

Smoke Report - Guerrero Perfume Skunk

Smoke Report - Guerrero Perfume Skunk

Smoke Report - Destroyer x 1972 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry sativa - Mrs. Perfume Skunk

Mrs. Perfume skunk is ready when the skunk cures to a Perfume Rose + Temple Incense. Mrs. Perfume Skunk cures slow and easy 2 months cure she wasn't ready, 3 months cure, and not yet. 5 months of cure and Ms. Perfume Skunk has a wonderful high, reminiscent of old school Acapulco Gold. Mrs. perfume skunk get her gold from her Destroyer mother.

The growth structure and flower density was much stronger and denser, than her sister Red Hair. Nice yield, and excellent calyx to leaf ratio on the flowers. Flower density better than Highland Mexican. High is a nice combination of Thailand Gold and Mexican Highland Guerrero green. Soaring, spacious, uplifting, with "that" psychedelic magic. Acapulco Gold was a magical skunk.

"That" Skunk cures to the sweetest Perfume Rose and Temple Incense vapors. The rose vapors are very euphoric, sight, sound, sunlight are intensified. The high is calm energy, feel good, relaxed, very uplifting energy. Energy flows upward and outward in a sphere eyes to crown chakra. "This" vibration is psychedelic.

The medium vapors are lime are psychedelic. energy goes out and connects with things, senses are heightened, and "this" and "that" begins to happen. Acapulco gold was known for the stone, Mrs. Perfume provides a refreshingly acapulco stone.

Its a magical old school high, "I like magic!"

 

[Swamp Thang]

I am on the edge of my seat contemplating this weed porn you have been kind enough to post, Satva, and your poetic descriptions of the highs delivered by those sativa goddesses are enough to make me reach for my Airizer Air vape and embark on a flavorful session or two, as needed.

The last row of pictures are of some gnarly buddage, fer sure. Serious grow science is being brought to bear out there, from all indications, and my gardener's hat is off to ya.