The Search for Trip Weed

[Sam_Skunkman]

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Never have I seen so many grown men of such intelligence and creativity waste their lives on delusions.

My aversion to cannabis began after smoking during first-time use of LSD. An unavoidable and sudden social engagement led to a freak out in earnest.

Fear of fear causes many to freak when they realize that they do not have any control over reality as well as maybe thinking they will be that way forever....
Most are fine if they let go and let it flow, I understand that may be difficult for someone running from the trip, but it is the solution.
I would try and make the same thing happen again and let go and let it happen, it is all just fear of the fear, it is not real.
Cannabis is a learned experience you need to relearn your experience, try lots of acid, maybe Cannabis, that should do it. Maybe just stick to Cannabis varieties you can enjoy. I know when I take 500 mics, the first 5-6 hours Cannabis does very little, it does not get me higher, at the end of a trip it helps me reenter and mellow down, maybe a bit more colors and patterns, but I am reentering, coming off the Acid. And I have no problems letting go.
I do not recommend that anyone takes acid unless they are prepared to change their thinking, and maybe their lives. It is not for fooling around, it is serious when taken in 250-500 mic doses. It can easily change your life. Look what it did to me.....
-SamS

For many years afterwards, cannabis could trigger panic with impending doom and madness. I mostly kept this to myself out of embarrassment for obviously being so weird. It was only many years later that I learned how widespread this reaction is. I think it was Kesey who spoke in an interview about the relationship between psychedelics and cannabis. After a degree of ego death, the ego resists letting go when cannabis tries to open that door a little.

Oddly, I continued to use and mostly enjoy various psychedelics over the years but weed usually spelt hell. A typical cannabis high had a rapid onset with a feeling of force compressing on the body and psyche. My body would go sedate but my mind would be vigilant and tense. I could not let go to "play in the fields of the Lord". A few years ago I grew Santa Marta Colombian Gold from Reeferman and Flo from DJ Short. After 25 years I could revisit what I had lost. These Sativas energized me but made me centered and calm mentally. I had to move and this movement channeled anxiety into pleasure and euphoria. Tripping used to involve visions and other sensory oddities if I put my mind to it. Mostly, however, it was a feeling of grace..a sort of homecoming...Deja Vu....a remembrance of something just out of reach. The right cannabis can do this.

Thanks for the thread.

 

[ej2012usa]

Northern light haze. # 5

Northern light haze. # 5

Greetings,

When I started smoking weed, approximately 45 years ago, it seemed like a time or two ever year my friends and I would come across something that was extraordinarily powerful and trippy. Back then, I smoked every chance I got. Some weed was very good, some O.K., and a lot was pretty bad. I think I smoked and tried a lot of varieties from different sources mostly to find those trippy strains and have those occasional mystical experiences that come from discovering those varietal gems. The best examples of what I am talking about are:

Jamaican Ganja
Thai Sticks
Sumatran
Neville's Haze (acid pheno) - A good example of a more recent discovery.

Some other examples that were also pretty good were:

Higher quality Colombian
The occasional Californian homegrown in the late 70s
Higher quality Mexican

I have been growing for about 35 of those 45 years that I have been smoking. The sad truth is, I have only grown 5 - 7 or so plants successfully that I considered world class. I am really picky, and perhaps not the best grower. I may have grown 10 - 15 that were really good. Lately, I have grown some good stuff, but it has been almost 10 years since I have had anything that I consider world class. I believe the popularity of Indica and Sativa Indica crosses have made the extremely potent and trippy strains harder and harder to find. This thread is dedicated to my search for some world class trippy weed.

Lately I have been trying some strains from ACE Seeds, since there are a lot of Southeast Asian offerings and many strains are crossed to a Thai plant. So far, I really like the high of Bangi Haze. If it was more potent, I could call it world class, but it is not quite there yet. I'm keeping it to bring down flowering time of anything world class that I find. Bangi Haze is that good. Currently, I've just harvested Zamaldelica. I have not sampled it yet. I started a thread called "Zamaldelica - The Search for Trip Weed", and I'm relieved to see that there seems to be an interest in this type of weed. I'm relieved because I assumed that most of the tokers that like that old fashioned weed had disappeared. So many argue that weed has gotten stronger, which is exactly contrary to what I have experienced. I think that trippy energetic weed is way stronger than the couch-lock weed I often now experience. It is almost as if the part that makes you feel tired is being counted towards potency by the newer generations of Cannabis aficionados. I consider couch-lock to be a dirty side effect, best bred out of the strain, much like the paranoia effects should be bred out from the opposite side of the spectrum of highs.

I have recently acquired some good strain prospects that are not ACE offerings, and I'm hoping that there is as much interest in trip weed outside of the specific seed company threads. I don't intend for this thread to be Sativa strains only, as long as the strains are trippy, energetic, and hopefully clean and clear. I'm willing to tolerate paranoia, since it has often goes hand-in-hand with extreme potency. I usually build up a tolerance to paranoia without building up a tolerance for the potency of the high. The Bangi Haze is as Indica looking as a strain can be, but the effect is as up and energetic as a strain can be. It is really happy weed like good Mexican. In a word, Irie! I have also had an Indica that was very trippy in a flashy way. It lasted about 10 minutes of the trippy part, then was plain old Indica high for the rest of the hour. If that 10 minutes lasted 4 hours, I would have called it world class.

One of the strains I have on deck is Nanan-Bouclou, which is Papua New Guinea Gold x Haitian. I heard rumors that New York City "Piff" or "Church Haze" might be Hatian. So far I'm a little concerned as it looks like an Indica x Sativa cross, but I'm going to stick with it because you never know for sure until you smoke it.

ThaiBliss

I recently grew this plant from seed,Northern light haze#5,i got it from SENSI seeds,,like i mentioned on my other posts,,ive never been affaid of cannabis,untill i smoked this strain,, i have a whole new respect for haze ,,and sativa strains,,extremly pshycadelic,,your UP,almost uncomfortably up,,i smoked some at 11.30.pm one night using a water pipe,and i was up till almost 4.am,,maybe,its just how i grew it ,,outdoor,almost grew like an AUTOFLOWER,,coved in crystals,,clones great, i Dont believe cannabis is supposed to have you that UP,and just tripping balls,,lol,,,I used canna terra coco,, and soil,,,line,the,,guano,kelp,worm castings,,ect,were all hand picked from differnt,,suppliers,,everything i used was purchesd at discount hydroponics,, HAPPY GROWING..

 

[TerpeneDream]

I've had trip weed once.

An old timer who used to do international-breed-work gave me a joint of an Australian landrace which he said had gone (virtually) extinct. Him and a couple of his breeder buddies had kept it around.

Wow. 1/3 of the joint and I had lucid, colorful thoughts. Psychedelic for sure. So clear headed I took the house in poker that night :big grin:

I would love to get ahold of that fine sir again

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

I love reading posts of people that have had the trip weed experience, like it or not. It only means it is still around, even if not popular.

All the Best,

ThaiBliss

 

[Cannabisso]

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[Lacocina]

I am feeling lucky that I grew a Golden Tiger that came out way different from the rest as it went into flower .. Greasy red buds after a solid cure .. Always been a thai fan ... Best trips are on my ranch in September when the elk start singing.... Can sit in camp and smile all night relaxed without out a care .. No paranoia .. I am blessed .. Now if I can only duplicate it again somehow... Have some interesting plants growing hopefully I will get lucky again. Just takes sooooo long for the good things to finish the way I like. Always harvesting around thanksgiving .. Some Thais never finish before temps go too low. Double thai didn't make it to ripeness had to cut her in December needed two or three more weeks.

Liked some aspects of Zamaldelica might have to give Bangi Haze a try in the genetic line
up next season.


Time will tell .. Until then ......

 

[TerpeneDream]

I have no idea…I didn't know enough about landraces at the time to ask…

I will be in his neck of the woods soon so I'm surely hoping to chime back in with some info. Hopefully, if he is willing (and I think anyone who has a true passion for this plant would want to see old scarce landraces saved), I'll be able to get some seeds. I would be honored to wait 15+ weeks for that high again.

 

[onefinity]

TerpeneDream, Please do provide any and all info you can and any photos you may get. I'm sure everyone here would love to know more about this strain!

 

[TerpeneDream]

Holy shit…me too! Lol, I didn't even get to see it. Just one healthy joint shared on over. Best joint yet

I suppose I'll finish the last I remember of the story…

So I get the J. It's like 10pm and I'm leaving the bar heading to a friends house to party. Well, I smoke about a 1/3 of the joint as I'm driving down a dark rural road. Then, Viola! Rich, vivid, hallucinogenic -like colors fill my night drive. In a pretty unique way (and i've done my fare share of L, mush, & various trippy research chems)…My thoughts began to take on a visceral dimension… like, my thoughts manifested into visuals. Yea, def hallucinogenic like…

This 'trip' was very very euphoric and quite short. Maybe 10-15 minutes. Then, I remember being just extra stoned (not trippy) by the time I made it to my friends house.

So I get to the house, and I'm just having a blast. Up, social, thoughtful, etc.. Hell, it was my first time playing poker that night and I took the house of about 8 guys that night! OK, so Fast forward, later in the night me and 3 friends smoke the 2nd 1/3 of the joint. We were all stoned.

The next morning, me and 2 friends smoke the last 3rd of the joint. All stoned. I make a 3 hour car ride home in bliss…

Oh, and all of this uplifting, energetic, long-flowering sativa high with 0 paranoia.


You (most of us) just don't see weed of that quality anymore. Not only was the high so special, but it was so potent. 8 people (including myself) were effectively stoned off one joint, from the end of one day until the middle of next.


Shit man. Colorado dispensary weed doesn't hardly even get me high anymore. We (the people) deserve our planets plants back.

Revive landraces!

 

[Shooters]

Shit man. Colorado dispensary weed doesn't hardly even get me high anymore. We (the people) deserve our planets plants back.

Revive landraces!

This! Yeah this is where I'm at too, and I think a lot of my fellow Washingtonians are in the same boat. This is why they have moved away from flowers altogether and into concentrates. And that is why when they come out and smoke some of my bagseed lionheart they leave saying that they haven't been this stoned in a long time.

 

[Riddleme]

You (most of us) just don't see weed of that quality anymore. Not only was the high so special, but it was so potent. 8 people (including myself) were effectively stoned off one joint, from the end of one day until the middle of next.


Shit man. Colorado dispensary weed doesn't hardly even get me high anymore. We (the people) deserve our planets plants back.

Revive landraces!

If things go as planned, soon you will see my brand in the stores and you can get that high back.

 

[village green]

Thanks for the response Sam...I guess what surprised me is the fact that the strains often considered trippy are the ones which did not cause the discomfort that couch-lock weed had done for so long. I think if people who have sworn off pot experimented with CBD rich strains, they could gradually find their sea legs again, either with mixing strains or smoking a high CBD strain before some rocket fuel. On the other hand, most freak outs from cannabis settled into a very positive re-integration for me. There seems to be much to be explored. Sorry for the diversion ThaiBliss. Your thread is why this site is so rewarding.

 

[Riddleme]

Shit man. Colorado dispensary weed doesn't hardly even get me high anymore. We (the people) deserve our planets plants back.

Revive landraces!

Was nice meetin you and smokin a bit last night, look forward to seein you get your grow on

 

[satva]

Colombian Gold x C99

Colombian Gold x C99

Colombian Gold x C99 - a wild and wispy male, perhaps more untamed and closer to landrace /IBL growth charateristics than CBG's Punto Rojo.

 

[satva]

Punto Rojo

Punto Rojo

Punto Rojo female ~


Punto Rojo individual lower branches pollenated with these males.

Punto Rojo x (Destroyer / Highland Mexican)


Punto Rojo x (Highland Guerrero / Blueberry)


Punto Rojo x (Colombian Gold / C99)

 

[satva]

(Colombian Gold / Jamacian Lambsbread) x Colombian Gold

(Colombian Gold / Jamacian Lambsbread) x Colombian Gold

(1980 Colombian Gold / 1960 Jamacian Lambsbread ) x (1980 Colombian Gold)

male


female


A second CG/JLB x CG female (not shown) is a second phenotype.


PS> Gypsy's fund (GNF) is offering Sam the Skunkman's seeds ~
[(Original Haze/Love Potion) x Skunk#1) x (Original Haze x Skunk#1)]

Love Potion ~ [(G13 x Colombian Gold) x Colombian Gold]
Original Haze may have Colombian Punto Rojo gentics.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

I got some good feedback on my SAGE x Purple Haze Thai last night. This is my second favorite tested strain that I have in my hands. I like SAGE the best, but I think the SAGE x Purple Haze Thai is stronger. I think the SAGE is a bit trippier. Satva's use of the term "spiritual" might actually be more appropriate for SAGE. I have given seeds of the SAGE x Purple Haze Thai cross out to a number of friends, but I always tell them that it is not a full on trippy example. It is what I consider a bit of a cross over between stony and trippy. I have been wanting some kind of reality check on both of these strains, but it is sometimes hard to get good descriptive evaluations from people. I also have done a fair amount of reducing people's expectations by describing it as just on the edge of the kind of weed I am looking for. Perhaps none of the seeds I have shared have actually been grown and tested.

Anyway, my patient get's some weed from someone else that I know. This other source is a good grower with lots of connections locally. He has turned me on to one of the two best smokes I've had in the last 10 years. It was L.A. Confidential, which is why I am trying the cutting that I recently found. I believe he stopped growing that because it is not commercial enough, productive, tasty, and good looking. It does not fit current consumers esthetic principles. He grows another strain that is his favorite. It actually reminds me of Colombian Gold a bit, and is not bad at all. It is very pretty yellowish color, and tastes fantastic with a hashy cedar/balsam wood flavor. I'd also consider it stony with some cerebral qualities, like SAGE x Purple Haze Thai.

My patient and friend cannot smoke due to lung issues. He made two batches of brownies, one from his other source, and one from Sage x Purple Haze Thai. We went out last night for few beers and some live music and he mentioned repeatedly how much he liked the brownies with SAGE x Purple Haze Thai in it. He also commented on how much stronger it was compared to the other brownies. It was nice to get confirmation of how I'm judging it compared to other strains that I also have experience with.

In related news, a generous friend, thanks again, shared a Big Sur Holy Weed cutting with me. I have had Big Sur Holy Weed before. It was one of those strains that I regret getting rid of. I probably had something I liked better at the time, but now that I lost the better one, I wished I had either or both back. LOL. Now I do! This new cutting looks amazingly like the SAGE cut I still have, but more delicate NLD looking stems. Both have about the same internode length. I can really see now that my SAGE cut is very much Big Sur Holy Weed leaning compared to any other SAGE pictures that I have seen. This new cutting is more delicate looking than the Big Sur Holy Weed cutting that I remember having. It also has some purple in it that I don't remember the other having. My hopes are high with this new one.

I will definitely be making seeds from these SAGE and Big Sur Holy Weed plants that I have. If the Jamaican tests well, I may use the SAGE x Jamaican seeds that I already have to find a male to pollinate the Big Sur Holy Weed. If not, I can use the SAGE x Purple Haze Thai. Another possibility is make some Bangi Haze x SAGE, and cross that with Big Sur Holy Weed. Hmm... I like that idea. I might find some children from that cross that are early enough for outside here.


ThaiBliss

 

[Riddleme]

Well the first reports are comin in on the lead experiment, thus far in any of the leaded vs unleaded smoke test every one has picked leaded as the best, most potent, most trippy.

Recently I was gifted a clone of a strain bred by a friend it was (Bio-Diesel x Sour Diesel) x Blue Dream and he named it DD or Double D. He had smoked some of my CTF and was curious as to how I would grow it. I grew out the clone, added it to my lead experiment and crossed it to Golden Tiger. Last night I shared some it with him and here is what he posted this mornin ,,,,,

It was awesome catching up with you last night! We smoked the TF69 before Mark Marron and it was very pleasant walking into the theater. Unfortunately I couldn't relate to most of his jokes and he couldn't hold my attention for 80% of the set so it was hard to judge the high. I was connecting the dots to some past events so it definitely had a philosophical component to it. It also made sitting in a small and uncomfortable seat a lot more tolerable.

After that we got some water to cure the cotton mouth and went down to the creek and smoked your Double D. Everything you gave me was leaded right? The DD was a familiar high until I found myself staring into the creek and watching the water move. I have some strains that have what my circle calls the "movie vision" effect. It's a little trippy, colors are brighter, and you're a bit more removed than normal from being stuck in your head. I think you took that to the next level. There was 30 minutes there last night where I definitely was getting some mild visuals akin to a mild dose of a more powerful hallucinogen. It was awesome!!!! That was the first time I've had any weed give me that strong and pleasant of a cerebral effect. Keep doing what you're doing.

here was a response from another that told me cars were smilin at him after we smoked some TF69

you think his DD is trippy smoke some of the TF69 and take a ride around the city and see how cars look like transformers. His weed is on the next level for sure.

Tis nice when a theory pans out and look at this beauty, she just showed female, tis my TF69 X Zamaldelica

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hi Riddleme,

Thanks for sharing your experiments. I'm not sure you are going to get many converts calling it your leaded experiments. LOL It certainly may be lead, but Azomite has lots of other minor and micro nutrients in it, including strong amounts of calcium. I believe calcium is a part of the THC molecular structure, or possibly in one of the precursors, if my memory serves me. Perhaps Sam would like to chime in as he seems to be very knowledgeable in chemistry.

I'm giving it a try by adding it to my regiment since volcanic soils have been frequently mentioned as favorable to high grade Cannabis sources. I cut off anything with nitrogen in it back in early July. I have been giving some ancient bird guano (0-8-1), Azomite, Sulphate of Potash (50% Potash, 17% Sulfur) and Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt), all in very small doses as per usual. I don't want to risk killing any worms with it, which may be necessary to turn this ground up rock into something that the plants can readily absorb. I start out the year with about a foot deep of compost. The worms and other micro organisms have that down to about 6 to 8 inches now. B.T.W., compost in general is supposed to be a source of sulfur. My plants are darker green now than when I was boosting the nitrogen levels in the soil. They also look like they might start flowering earlier than last year. In another month, I'll be watering more infrequently, and flushing the heck out of the plants when I do water.

ThaiBliss

 

[#1cheesebuds]

Punto Rojo female ~
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do you have a top down pic of this one?