The Search for Trip Weed

[satva]

Snow Angels

Snow Angels

That Punto Rojo is looking awesome.

Thank you! Mrs. Punto Rojo has all the right aromas - guava/orange/pine. Mrs. Punto Rojo is by far my favorite, in this "Colombian Love Fest". Lots of little Rojo's under the Colorado sun - chillin' at 100 degrees with the big girls, and a few in the boy's closet in search for Mr. Rojo. Some Punto Rojo seeds took months to germinate. They like it hot! Apparently they've never read about the soaking seeds in water > paper towel germination method> constant temperature 75 - 80 degrees farenheit . Either that, or they're emulating Colombian women from an early age. Red Rider knows what I'm talking about <lol>

Mr. Colombian Gold x C99 is flowering nicely. Mrs. Colombian Gold x C99 is a cross-dresser. I put her/him in time out - in the boy's club / male flowering cabinet.

Colombian Gold x Jamacian Lambsbread have minimal branching, asymetrical branching, mainly in a column with a strong astringent / resin aroma. Punto Rojo and Colombian Gold x C99 grow like vines in every direction, and have a sweet floral/citrus smell. The Logde Pole Pine trees leaves in Colorado have an aroma that is dead-on orange/orange peel + pine resin. Similar aroma of other tree resins ~ Frankincense or Sandalwood tree resin. I believe the tree resin aroma is desireable.

PS> It was ~ 71 degrees at the trailhead about 8,500 - 9,000 feet and much cooler in high country + 12,500 feet, but in full sun - due to the sun intensity t high altitude, (+ 2.5 miles high), its T-shirt weather, and a long sleeve jersey or jacket with cloud cover. Ice Lake was still frozen soild, hence its name, and covered in snow. When you need to cool down, just make a few snow angels on the glaciers.

 

[Madjag]

[(Zamal A x Warlock) x Critical Mass] x Oaxacan

Autoflowering nicely since 3rd week above ground. Out of 5 plants, two were females, pictured below. Same soil medium, nutes, and watering. Girl on the left looks like her mom, the Zamal A pheno: shaggy, dense foliage with hundreds of bud sites, foxtails.

Waiting patiently.....yum....

 

[Lacocina]

So many temptations for next year !!!!

 

[Lacocina]

Like the look of the Banghi Haze and the punto rojo

Oaxican would also be fun... Remember getting Oaxican and some Guerrero speeds around 76

If I would have only saved a few seeds ... Left plenty at the days on the green at Candlestick....

Sam I hope you put some quality skunk back into the world !!

Haven't seen anything like we used to have in Northern Cali in decades ... Although I've always thought the best steelhead trips were secured with Santa Cruz haze back then...

If only .......

 

[idiit]

Yeah the Senegel Haze was very good, trippy weed with the most exotic terpenes in flower. Smoking too much will cause paranoia and could be too much for some, a few her smoked her actually tripped out for awhile.. good stuff.

snowhigh ( snow, mota de dios)

^ nrnice forum

Here are the Afropips top 5 extremely psychoactive varieties
Sweet White Malawi,
Malawi 99,
Senegal Haze,
Sangoma &
The Pure First Grade Malawi Gold.

Cool Runnings........

afropips https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=632025&highlight=senegal+haze#post632025

Senegal Haze: Oh, my God. That weed scared the shit out of me. I had constant audio hallucinations, including a horn that kept playing in the background etc. Gave my stash to some friend in an act of mere cowardness.

nostromo https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=1077831&highlight=senegal+haze#post1077831

Phoenix Haze was actually a project by DG, which got busted.

F1 seeds of Nevilles Haze and Super Silver Haze were in the room but more Nevilles Haze if I remember correctly. The bust took all the plants in the breeding room but seeds were collected from the floor and this was called Phoenix Haze.

Select for brown stems in veg and they will turn red in flower, purple flowers with white to orange pistils, smells like port wine grapey brandy.. fucking smells up the garden, even if outdoors.. intoxicating.

Snow

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=6853871#post6853871

 

[Dirtboy808]

They also introduced PM and Botrytis which was not common in NLD, (Sativa) varieties before the introduction of WLD, (Indiaca) varieties.
There is no free lunch.....
I have grown on the N side of Kauai and it has serious problems growing anything that is WLD or WLD hybrids. Except for the dry season.
-SamS

Mahalo Sam I have kept telling my wife when did PM and Bortrytis happen. For years I never heard of it,now I know why.
Did you go to any harvest parties in the late 70's on Kauai?
Aloha DB

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

No, but friends with land and ranches on the N side told me about them, I was at the Sebastopol events and the Fairfax Homegrowers harvest festivals back in the 70's and early 80's I even won a few.
-SamS

 

[Peaty Wheaty]

the pack of regular DP Durban Poisons im running is very uniform, very little variation.
the fan leaves are pretty big and fairly wide.
tall and vigorous


@sam

thanks, good to know

I have a pack of them I was hoping to breed with but I'm having second thoughts now. I've read that a lot of phenos can make you grumpy and the effects are short lived.

(I think it was the guy who started this thread, Thai Bliss, who was talking about the Durban and grumpiness but I don't want to put words in his mouth. Whoever said it, it rings true with me on recent experience.)

I've just finished smoking the last of a Sagamatha Northern Lights #9 which is 1/4 Durban Poison. Great smoke, I really like it. But it does make me a tad testy, it does only get me stoned for about 20 minutes and it is anything but potent.

All that said, I'm sorry I've run out and I'm more than likely to grow some of the DP Durbans that I have just to have a jar of it handy. So I don't want to appear to be bagging it out completely.

But for breeding purposes I'm after a clear, heady sativa influence that induces happiness and is long lasting. I'm not sure I'm going to find that in DP's Durban Poison and I'm now looking elsewhere for inspiration.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Most people use Durbans because they are so early, grumpy, I never heard that, but if so it must be the terpenes, THC is THC. The terpenes are responsible for most of the different effects found in Cannabis and a simple Durban hybrid will have much different terpenes and maybe something you do like, a f2 hybrid can look and be as early as a Durban with only the non-Durban terpenes in it. Maybe that is what you want?
-SamS

I have a pack of them I was hoping to breed with but I'm having second thoughts now. I've read that a lot of phenos can make you grumpy and the effects are short lived.

(I think it was the guy who started this thread, Thai Bliss, who was talking about the Durban and grumpiness but I don't want to put words in his mouth. Whoever said it, it rings true with me on recent experience.)

I've just finished smoking the last of a Sagamatha Northern Lights #9 which is 1/4 Durban Poison. Great smoke, I really like it. But it does make me a tad testy, it does only get me stoned for about 20 minutes and it is anything but potent.

All that said, I'm sorry I've run out and I'm more than likely to grow some of the DP Durbans that I have just to have a jar of it handy. So I don't want to appear to be bagging it out completely.

But for breeding purposes I'm after a clear, heady sativa influence that induces happiness and is long lasting. I'm not sure I'm going to find that in DP's Durban Poison and I'm now looking elsewhere for inspiration.

 

[idiit]

I've read that a lot of phenos can make you grumpy and the effects are short lived.

^ my Burmese that went into 'amber' before harvesting was extremely depressing, beyond grumpy. I feel your point peaty wheaty. Burmese taken earlier was bright, euphoric and somewhat psychoactive.

But for breeding purposes I'm after a clear, heady sativa influence that induces happiness and is long lasting. I'm not sure I'm going to find that in DP's Durban Poison and I'm now looking elsewhere for inspiration.

^ agree too on almost all dp's. they are known for speedy energetic highs but I missed the "extremely psychoactive" Durban poison posts.

 

[idiit]

warm welcome to sam for entering into the fray. I suspect many of us feel the same; true honor.

ok, sam help us out here. where should we go searching for trip weed genetics?

I understand iirc from your posts that you prefer dry sift but this thread is mostly geared towards growing/smoking trippy bud.

would really enjoy hearing your personal psychoactive smoke stories as well. many of us in earlier posts have qualified what we define as "trippy", "psychoactive" and many of us agree to disagree on what the descriptors actually mean to each one of us personally.

thai bliss is a huge thai genetics aficionado and I remember your posts on thai weed in se asia that you and friends would throw against walls and stick they were so gooey. I would bet some money that tb would love to hear some of your 'back in da day' thai experiences.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

NLD varieties, Sativas from traditional areas of Cannabis production for seedless sinsemilla.
If I wanted the best NLD varieties in a search for Trip weed, it would be to find the ones I like the best and then screen them for making dry sift, by that I mean to judge them by sifting/screening them to remove the resin and see which is the easiest to sift and yields the most, as well as has the high I want, the potency and the taste and smell, looks are nice but I prefer effects and potency. I want it trippy as hell and no ceiling every time you smoke you get higher. It would be nice if you get a good rush from each hit also. To me that is trippy.
So I am on a search for trip weed, so I can dry sift it and make some trip hash, I need the best trip weed to do that. Also a lot of NLD's are poor yielders of dry sift resin so you might need to try a lot to find a few with high quality and a high yield.
Still looking, I will never stop.... I like looking.....
-SamS

 

[Lacocina]

Wishing everyone a extra trippy and Safe 4th !

 

[ThaiBliss]

warm welcome to sam for entering into the fray. I suspect many of us feel the same; true honor.

ok, sam help us out here. where should we go searching for trip weed genetics?

I understand iirc from your posts that you prefer dry sift but this thread is mostly geared towards growing/smoking trippy bud.

would really enjoy hearing your personal psychoactive smoke stories as well. many of us in earlier posts have qualified what we define as "trippy", "psychoactive" and many of us agree to disagree on what the descriptors actually mean to each one of us personally.

thai bliss is a huge thai genetics aficionado and I remember your posts on thai weed in se asia that you and friends would throw against walls and stick they were so gooey. I would bet some money that tb would love to hear some of your 'back in da day' thai experiences.

I second Idiit's sentiments, and wish I had expressed them first. LOL.

Idiit - Your early harvest of Burmese matched my experience, which makes sense since I tend to harvest early, and from your pictures, you seem to harvest late. The darned thing about it is that every strain is different and it takes time to learn what it likes for the effects I like.

Peaty Wheaty - I don't remember the grumpy comment about Durban Poison. I may have appeared to be grumpy while posting about when I grew them, as I had a bad batch or I did not take the time to learn how to grow them right. LOL My apologies.

Sam - Please do tell us about your experiences with especially trippy weed. I'm especially interested in a Haze smoking story or three. I have grown 35+ of the commercial Haze offerings and did not find a good one or I did not grow them right. I kept growing them because what little high I got, had a delayed reaction, and the high lasted a long time. Those are signs of good weed in my opinion. I finally got lucky on one, and it was the best weed I ever smoked. It had a combination of Thai Stick feel, super euphoria (waves of bliss), and psilocybin like effects. Damn! That was good. Reinvigorated my searching for the fine weed.

Thanks,

ThaiBliss

 

[MountZionCollec]

I posted a smoke report of the Durban I grew from Dutch passion for those that were interested.

Mine are all fairly uniform, not vigorous starters but once they get going they grow just fine. The one I'm cloning is 5.5' tall and wide transplanted less than one month ago at 1' in height. All of the highs and smells are very similar. They were all nice yielding and had no hermis or problems and finished up end of September early October with a christmass tree like frame with long strong branches covered in buds. No complaints whatsoever. It Sucks it was stolen and now has murky lineage as i do like supporting actual creators and prefer clarity but I love me some Durban and options are limited.

 

[Peaty Wheaty]

Most people use Durbans because they are so early, grumpy, I never heard that, but if so it must be the terpenes, THC is THC. The terpenes are responsible for most of the different effects found in Cannabis and a simple Durban hybrid will have much different terpenes and maybe something you do like, a f2 hybrid can look and be as early as a Durban with only the non-Durban terpenes in it. Maybe that is what you want?
-SamS

I must admit, Sam, that I had never come across the complaint in all of my research into Durban Poison. I procured it for the reasons you mention, to cross with ACE Seeds Malawi Gold, and my previous experience with the strain was positive.

But, like I said, I recently read where a breeder of Sativas had ruled it out of his program years earlier because of the "grumpy" trait and I can identify with it to a point just going on the DP in the Sagamatha NL #9.

To be fair, "grumpy" is a bit of an exagerration. I'm not walking around with a scowl on my face hahaha. Just a little too quick to admonish myself when I do something stupid, which is every hour or so at the best of times anyway.

Maybe the breeder concerned and myself are describing what others refer to as the muddy feeling, or washed out feeling that some Sativas deliver. It is something I'm hoping to avoid and recent research indicates there are very good strains out there with phenos lacking the effect.

Zamaldelica is a strain I'm looking very closely at because it is said to have a Zamal Reunion pheno that is energetic and clear headed high.

All that said, I'm new to breeding and it's a long time since I've smoked decent Sativa so I am happy to take all advice and observations on board. I'll grow a couple out just to make sure I'm not making an avoidable mistake.

Thanks.

Peace

 

[Donn]

If you look at the Steep Hill "strain profile" for Durban Poison, what stands out is THCV.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

THCV might make people grumpy, I know when we tried Vaping 25 mg of pure THCV I did not like it at all, it does not get you high, It can modulate THC similar to what CBD does, but it does not make THC better. I know that THCV was claimed to be better then THC, but it is not. I smoked a 75% THCV/25 % THC variety that was 15% Cannabinoids, and it was crap, I could not even finish it. RCC did and did not like it at all. Barely got you high.
-SamS

 

[Thcvhunter]

years ago, people knocked CBD in the same way you knock THCV.

How many THCV strains does GW Pharmaceuticals have?

 

[Donald Mallard]

grumpy weed ,
or weed enhancing ones mood ??

I kinda doubt it could make u feel grumpy ,
but maybe it could enhance a feeling that your holding onto ??

I find some of that weed that can make u trip one needs to be wary of the mood, place , folks your with etc , ;much the same as you would a trip ,
ive spiralled down some dark tunnels on some of that thai/laos weed , quite scary i would imagine to the younger punter...
but other occasions found it happy and euphoric,
figured it was my mood ....