The Search for Trip Weed

[Dave Coulier]

GN Thai Stick-A @64 Days of 11/13

GN Thai Stick-A @64 Days of 11/13

Hey gang, I wanted to share a few pics of my Thai Stick-A clone. She's at Day 64, and doing much better than the previous run of her. She was so vigorous, I had to chop almost 20" off of her in 3 places! She stands around 4'4" from the top of the soil now with around ten good tops on her.

Anyone want to guess how long she will go? Really..because I have no clue.

 

[satva]

High high in the Rocky Mountains

High high in the Rocky Mountains

Vacation photos taken last week high, high in the San Juan Mountains, Colorado at + 12,500 feet. Very sweet and peaceful energy in the high country of the San Juan's. Nice to see small mountain towns with three marijuana stores for every one liquor store. Takes some conissioueur marijuana to take you higher than the high country of the San Juan Mountains.

 

[Donald Mallard]

wow thats some nice looking country satva,
very pretty ... we dont see anything like that where im from ..

 

[ThaiBliss]

Dave - That Thai plant looks fantastic. Thanks for posting here. I'm guessing you are almost a third of the way to completion. I especially like this picture:

Satva - It looks nice and cool up there. I lost count of how many days it has been over 100 degrees here... in the month of June!!!

People, this climate change shit sucks. I've decided to dedicate myself to breeding an outdoor strain with the trippy, energetic, and euphoric qualities of what I liked best from the old school Sativa strains that I grew up with. I have got to give people an alternative to huge indoor, greenhouse gas generating, commercial operations that are sure to expand as legal weed operations spring up across the world. Red Rider has got the right idea as far as growing traditionally grown Colombian weed. I want to find a weed that will be able to compete here at 42 degrees north.

I'm hoping to build on the great work that Charlie Garcia, Dubi, and friends have done with Bangi Haze. I hope that they do not think I'm going to be ripping them off by taking this path. After all, they have built on the great work that our ancestors have done in Nepal, and Africa for Bangi Haze. Every gardener is doing the same thing when they save seeds. Feel free to respond here or PM me.

Likewise, I'll be throwing Zamaldelica, SAGE, and others, at the Bangi Haze, growing hundreds of plants, and selecting for quality amongst the ones that still ripen early enough for my backyard at 42 degrees north.

I remember the weed I was smoking from California back when they were growing pure Sativa in California in the 70s. It was world class. They may have had the right idea when Indica strains were brought in to make it easier to grow. In my opinion, the growers in the '80s just took it a step too far. There were rare successes of early Sativa x Indica hybrids where most of the quality of the high from the Sativa side was preserved, and ripening times were greatly reduced. The mistake made, in my opinion for what I think is the best smoke, is that they should have bred back to the Sativa strain side to reinforce the quality. I believe they kept breeding to the Indica side and slowly over time, or not so slowly in 95% of the cases, lost the Sativa qualities that I cherish. Most probably, they didn't even realize it as newbie smokers and generations of plant strains were passed on and slowly evolved.

I'm always on the lookout for finding new (to me) early strains that can be leveraged for this outdoor trip weed project. Towards that end, I have a bunch of strains that I am testing outside this year:

2 more Bangi Hazes

1 strain from another local grower over in the next creek drainage. It is a combination of a Nor Cal strain and Elvis

4 plants from the results of my pollen chucking over the last 30+ years, the last outcross of which was an Indica leaning seed spawn of Trainwreck. It was actually quite good and had yellowish/copper colored early pre-ripe resins.

^^^
Shout out to RiddleMe here.


1 plant of a selection of L.A. Confidential (very peppery)

1 plant of a selection of Fruity Pebbles (Mendocino Madness)

1 plant that I forgot the name of. It is supposed to be very early and very easy to trim. I am calling it Easy Peasy.

1 Nepal Jam

1 Black Afghani Domina

2 Pit Bulls. These are interesting in that individuals of this strain have been claimed to be tested at 36% THC when harvested early, when 40% of pistils are have died. The most pronounced traits of the high are described as #1 euphoria, and #2 disorientation. I thought they were going to be just another Indica strain. They have fat leaves, but I now see that they are very lanky. Their stems also have a lemon herb aroma so far. A very refreshing scent.

My earlier thoughts this year with legalization upon us, were to grow some Indica knock out couch lock weed to appeal to the local commercial interests in combination with my trip weed endeavors. Hence the Black Afghan Domina, Pit Bull, etc. (Indica to pay the bills, Sativa for the thrills) but, I think I'll stick to my true passion and eliminate any of these strains from my collection that don't satisfy my own predilections, the aforementioned trippy, euphoric, and energetic qualites.

It is way too much work to try and develop or even maintain multiple lines. I'm going to concentrate on one goal, and use multiple lines towards this goal of this one line. If I develop some seeds that are consistent, I feel proud of, and possibly convince some people to grow outdoors instead of using electricity to grow indoors, I will consider my life a success.

I'll post some pictures of my outdoor garden later today if I have time. I have some days off of my regular 9 to 5 for the rest of the week.

What do you think?

ThaiBliss

 

[Siever]

Hey gang, I wanted to share a few pics of my Thai Stick-A clone. She's at Day 64, and doing much better than the previous run of her. She was so vigorous, I had to chop almost 20" off of her in 3 places! She stands around 4'4" from the top of the soil now with around ten good tops on her.

Anyone want to guess how long she will go? Really..because I have no clue.

I'd guess she's halfway or perhaps even more than halfway looking at the plant.
On the other hand: I can't see any yellowing leaves, which is a sign a pure sativa is ripening. They tend to "eat" themselves during the flowering stage. My guess is that this plants needs 15 to 18 weeks to reach bud maturity.

Siever

 

[red rider]

Happy happy July 1st!!!!!! ThaiBliss you rock buddy!!!! Now you can really show them how it's done.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

If you want an early NLD, (Sativa) S African Durban Poison was the earliest landrace I could find, beat out all the WLD, (Indicas).
I have grown other S Africans both seeds from the crops, and selected reproduced in the West S Africans and none were as early as my lines I offered. Now to me my S African is not trip weed, I have higher standards that that, but it is early as shit, use that part. I could grow it outdoors at the 53rd parallel, I can't grow most late NLD, (Sativas) outdoors here forget it.
Make f2 seeds of S African X Haze and select the earliest, most Hazy one, pretty easy and straight forward. Keep the clone of the earliest most Hazy girl and you got it.
-SamS

Dave - That Thai plant looks fantastic. Thanks for posting here. I'm guessing you are almost a third of the way to completion. I especially like this picture:


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Satva - It looks nice and cool up there. I lost count of how many days it has been over 100 degrees here... in the month of June!!!

People, this climate change shit sucks. I've decided to dedicate myself to breeding an outdoor strain with the trippy, energetic, and euphoric qualities of what I liked best from the old school Sativa strains that I grew up with. I have got to give people an alternative to huge indoor, greenhouse gas generating, commercial operations that are sure to expand as legal weed operations spring up across the world. Red Rider has got the right idea as far as growing traditionally grown Colombian weed. I want to find a weed that will be able to compete here at 42 degrees north.

I'm hoping to build on the great work that Charlie Garcia, Dubi, and friends have done with Bangi Haze. I hope that they do not think I'm going to be ripping them off by taking this path. After all, they have built on the great work that our ancestors have done in Nepal, and Africa for Bangi Haze. Every gardener is doing the same thing when they save seeds. Feel free to respond here or PM me.

Likewise, I'll be throwing Zamaldelica, SAGE, and others, at the Bangi Haze, growing hundreds of plants, and selecting for quality amongst the ones that still ripen early enough for my backyard at 42 degrees north.

I remember the weed I was smoking from California back when they were growing pure Sativa in California in the 70s. It was world class. They may have had the right idea when Indica strains were brought in to make it easier to grow. In my opinion, the growers in the '80s just took it a step too far. There were rare successes of early Sativa x Indica hybrids where most of the quality of the high from the Sativa side was preserved, and ripening times were greatly reduced. The mistake made, in my opinion for what I think is the best smoke, is that they should have bred back to the Sativa strain side to reinforce the quality. I believe they kept breeding to the Indica side and slowly over time, or not so slowly in 95% of the cases, lost the Sativa qualities that I cherish. Most probably, they didn't even realize it as newbie smokers and generations of plant strains were passed on and slowly evolved.

I'm always on the lookout for finding new (to me) early strains that can be leveraged for this outdoor trip weed project. Towards that end, I have a bunch of strains that I am testing outside this year:

2 more Bangi Hazes

1 strain from another local grower over in the next creek drainage. It is a combination of a Nor Cal strain and Elvis

4 plants from the results of my pollen chucking over the last 30+ years, the last outcross of which was an Indica leaning seed spawn of Trainwreck. It was actually quite good and had yellowish/copper colored early pre-ripe resins.

^^^
Shout out to RiddleMe here.


1 plant of a selection of L.A. Confidential (very peppery)

1 plant of a selection of Fruity Pebbles (Mendocino Madness)

1 plant that I forgot the name of. It is supposed to be very early and very easy to trim. I am calling it Easy Peasy.

1 Nepal Jam

1 Black Afghani Domina

2 Pit Bulls. These are interesting in that individuals of this strain have been claimed to be tested at 36% THC when harvested early, when 40% of pistils are have died. The most pronounced traits of the high are described as #1 euphoria, and #2 disorientation. I thought they were going to be just another Indica strain. They have fat leaves, but I now see that they are very lanky. Their stems also have a lemon herb aroma so far. A very refreshing scent.

My earlier thoughts this year with legalization upon us, were to grow some Indica knock out couch lock weed to appeal to the local commercial interests in combination with my trip weed endeavors. Hence the Black Afghan Domina, Pit Bull, etc. (Indica to pay the bills, Sativa for the thrills) but, I think I'll stick to my true passion and eliminate any of these strains from my collection that don't satisfy my own predilections, the aforementioned trippy, euphoric, and energetic qualites.

It is way too much work to try and develop or even maintain multiple lines. I'm going to concentrate on one goal, and use multiple lines towards this goal of this one line. If I develop some seeds that are consistent, I feel proud of, and possibly convince some people to grow outdoors instead of using electricity to grow indoors, I will consider my life a success.

I'll post some pictures of my outdoor garden later today if I have time. I have some days off of my regular 9 to 5 for the rest of the week.

What do you think?

ThaiBliss

 

[Dirtboy808]

Dave - That Thai plant looks fantastic. Thanks for posting here. I'm guessing you are almost a third of the way to completion. I especially like this picture:


View Image


Satva - It looks nice and cool up there. I lost count of how many days it has been over 100 degrees here... in the month of June!!!

People, this climate change shit sucks. I've decided to dedicate myself to breeding an outdoor strain with the trippy, energetic, and euphoric qualities of what I liked best from the old school Sativa strains that I grew up with. I have got to give people an alternative to huge indoor, greenhouse gas generating, commercial operations that are sure to expand as legal weed operations spring up across the world. Red Rider has got the right idea as far as growing traditionally grown Colombian weed. I want to find a weed that will be able to compete here at 42 degrees north.

I'm hoping to build on the great work that Charlie Garcia, Dubi, and friends have done with Bangi Haze. I hope that they do not think I'm going to be ripping them off by taking this path. After all, they have built on the great work that our ancestors have done in Nepal, and Africa for Bangi Haze. Every gardener is doing the same thing when they save seeds. Feel free to respond here or PM me.

Likewise, I'll be throwing Zamaldelica, SAGE, and others, at the Bangi Haze, growing hundreds of plants, and selecting for quality amongst the ones that still ripen early enough for my backyard at 42 degrees north.

I remember the weed I was smoking from California back when they were growing pure Sativa in California in the 70s. It was world class. They may have had the right idea when Indica strains were brought in to make it easier to grow. In my opinion, the growers in the '80s just took it a step too far. There were rare successes of early Sativa x Indica hybrids where most of the quality of the high from the Sativa side was preserved, and ripening times were greatly reduced. The mistake made, in my opinion for what I think is the best smoke, is that they should have bred back to the Sativa strain side to reinforce the quality. I believe they kept breeding to the Indica side and slowly over time, or not so slowly in 95% of the cases, lost the Sativa qualities that I cherish. Most probably, they didn't even realize it as newbie smokers and generations of plant strains were passed on and slowly evolved.

I'm always on the lookout for finding new (to me) early strains that can be leveraged for this outdoor trip weed project. Towards that end, I have a bunch of strains that I am testing outside this year:

2 more Bangi Hazes

1 strain from another local grower over in the next creek drainage. It is a combination of a Nor Cal strain and Elvis

4 plants from the results of my pollen chucking over the last 30+ years, the last outcross of which was an Indica leaning seed spawn of Trainwreck. It was actually quite good and had yellowish/copper colored early pre-ripe resins.

^^^
Shout out to RiddleMe here.


1 plant of a selection of L.A. Confidential (very peppery)

1 plant of a selection of Fruity Pebbles (Mendocino Madness)

1 plant that I forgot the name of. It is supposed to be very early and very easy to trim. I am calling it Easy Peasy.

1 Nepal Jam

1 Black Afghani Domina

2 Pit Bulls. These are interesting in that individuals of this strain have been claimed to be tested at 36% THC when harvested early, when 40% of pistils are have died. The most pronounced traits of the high are described as #1 euphoria, and #2 disorientation. I thought they were going to be just another Indica strain. They have fat leaves, but I now see that they are very lanky. Their stems also have a lemon herb aroma so far. A very refreshing scent.

My earlier thoughts this year with legalization upon us, were to grow some Indica knock out couch lock weed to appeal to the local commercial interests in combination with my trip weed endeavors. Hence the Black Afghan Domina, Pit Bull, etc. (Indica to pay the bills, Sativa for the thrills) but, I think I'll stick to my true passion and eliminate any of these strains from my collection that don't satisfy my own predilections, the aforementioned trippy, euphoric, and energetic qualites.

It is way too much work to try and develop or even maintain multiple lines. I'm going to concentrate on one goal, and use multiple lines towards this goal of this one line. If I develop some seeds that are consistent, I feel proud of, and possibly convince some people to grow outdoors instead of using electricity to grow indoors, I will consider my life a success.

I'll post some pictures of my outdoor garden later today if I have time. I have some days off of my regular 9 to 5 for the rest of the week.

What do you think?

ThaiBliss

Here in Puna we crossed the Sats with the Indica because they finished before Green Harvest came. It was a $ move. Aloha DB

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

They also introduced PM and Botrytis which was not common in NLD, (Sativa) varieties before the introduction of WLD, (Indiaca) varieties.
There is no free lunch.....
I have grown on the N side of Kauai and it has serious problems growing anything that is WLD or WLD hybrids. Except for the dry season.
-SamS

Here in Puna we crossed the Sats with the Indica because they finished before Green Harvest came. It was a $ move. Aloha DB

 

[ThaiBliss]

If you want an early NLD, (Sativa) S African Durban Poison was the earliest landrace I could find, beat out all the WLD, (Indicas).
I have grown other S Africans both seeds from the crops, and selected reproduced in the West S Africans and none were as early as my lines I offered. Now to me my S African is not trip weed, I have higher standards that that, but it is early as shit, use that part. I could grow it outdoors at the 53rd parallel, I can't grow most late NLD, (Sativas) outdoors here forget it.
Make f2 seeds of S African X Haze and select the earliest, most Hazy one, pretty easy and straight forward. Keep the clone of the earliest most Hazy girl and you got it.
-SamS

Hi Sam - Thanks for posting. I like your advice. You've sold me. Where can I order it, and be sure I'm getting the right genetics?

For now, here is a picture of my narrowest leaved Bangi Haze:

DirtBoy - Yes, I think avoiding the ramp up of eradication efforts may have been a driver of the WLD strains in California also. Like Sam says, I grew for many years on the west coast, and never noticed mold problems until this last 20 years or so. More and more people are growing close by also. I used to hike many miles into the wilderness to grow a few plants. Now I grow more in my yard. I looked on Google Earth, and was able to see all my neighbors who are growing also. Once mold gets started in the area, it spreads easy.

It is amazing that plants are so widespread now. Like Satva was saying, more dispensaries and Cannabis outlets than liquor stores. The world has changed.

Red Rider - Gracias mi amigo. I'm looking for 4 more plants to put out today! LOL Legal recreational weed is here on this very day!!!!!


ThaiBliss

 

[gorilla ganja]

Nice work here ThaiBliss.
I too am doing some breeding with Bangi Haze. I'm further up north than you. So will be interesting to compare. Best of luck in finding what you seek.
Peace GG

 

[Shooters]

My earlier thoughts this year with legalization upon us, were to grow some Indica knock out couch lock weed to appeal to the local commercial interests in combination with my trip weed endeavors. Hence the Black Afghan Domina, Pit Bull, etc. (Indica to pay the bills, Sativa for the thrills) but, I think I'll stick to my true passion and eliminate any of these strains from my collection that don't satisfy my own predilections, the aforementioned trippy, euphoric, and energetic qualites.

It is way too much work to try and develop or even maintain multiple lines. I'm going to concentrate on one goal, and use multiple lines towards this goal of this one line. If I develop some seeds that are consistent, I feel proud of, and possibly convince some people to grow outdoors instead of using electricity to grow indoors, I will consider my life a success.

I'll post some pictures of my outdoor garden later today if I have time. I have some days off of my regular 9 to 5 for the rest of the week.

What do you think?

ThaiBliss

Well I quite simply agree... I've been playing around at doing the same thing, only using bagseed Lionheart to get it done. However I think I just need to get some cleaner genetics than my bagseed.

I attained some of Sams SK1 that is growing nicely and was going to use that with a Zamaldelica to shorten the flowering times but using a S African might be a better choice.

My two outdoor grow areas this morning:

Love growing outdoors and this year like in '97 we will be getting a long dry summer/fall so fingers crossed for a mold free harvest.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Hello,
I am not in the Biz as I retired.
You just need to ask them if they are extra early or not but Dutch Passion knocked mine off, Flying Dutchman, SeedsMan, and many others, ask them if it is from my line or not, and is it extra, early?
Some of the more recent S Africans I have seen offered were not early, like mine.
Have fun,
-SamS

Hi Sam - Thanks for posting. I like your advice. You've sold me. Where can I order it, and be sure I'm getting the right genetics?



ThaiBliss

 

[MountZionCollec]

Sam I believe I have read you say that all the Dutch based Durban poison came from your stock, if that's the case I grow your Durban poison and it is without a doubt my favorite strain to smoke during the day while I'm doing my farm work. It is an absolute purely clean energizing high with zero come down...if you continue smoking throughout the day the clean energy continues, I use it like a tea break its like caffeine except much cleaner, After a couple hours it slowly just dissipates like it never happened and you just feel a sense of well being. I will be getting a few fully cannabinoid-terpinoid profiled this fall in my search for clones. Soon they will want to start categorizing strains when they begin mandatory terpinoid profiling for medicinal and as you are the breeder what terpinoids did you breed Durban poison to have/not have?


Plants at the 37th at 4200' elevation full sun were ready at the end of September or first few days in October.

 

[Riddleme]

Hey TB,,,,

funny you should say Trainwreck as I have a Trainwreck cross goin at the moment (to Strawberry Diesel I believe? ) still in veg, should flip in a week or 2 ?

I also have several other of my own crosses goin, my TF69 X Kumaoni and Zamaldelica

as for Durban land race, I had one and crossed it to my CTF, the results were awesome so I let the Durban go, but I think a friend is still running it?

My TF69 is a clone only (thus far) and is exactly what you are looking for Sat (Thai) Dom that finishes fast (7 to 8 weeks) most plants finish faster in my lighting schedule to be fair. I just harvested one to share at the upcommin RidFest that happens next weekend, it had 6 different colored trics

I'm very behind in my projects as a result of makin so many new strains LOL but I'm tryin to stick with workin the TF69 at the moment, as a base it offers a lot

 

[buttyrekka]

i always think of durban as having the anise taste,an early finisher with a definate sativa up high..not clear headed though and it feeling stupid high,i'd be motivated and walk but forget what/why/where i was going.
but it always made me smile,a tendancy for confusion i associated with durban's.
i was never blessed to get sams durban crosses that were sent out by the bay/boo a few years back,DP's were the ones i grew also some early powerplant crosses(nirvana and bay freebies).
i have a bit of a soft spot for what i know as durban,hopefully sam recognizes my descriptions.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Durban does have an anise taste or mine did.
Mine were basically THC a tiny bit of THCV, but I did not breed it for Cannabinoids, this was bred in the 70's in Calif before I had access to a GC. If it is extra early and Anise smelling tasting, I bet it is directly from my work. It took me maybe 5 years to clean it up, when I got it every plant was intersex. 5 years later you seldom saw an intersex flower. Still my favorite extra early NLD, (Sativa).
If anyone has seeds of an extra early S African Durban maybe they can tell ThaiBliss how he can get some, from some place?
-SamS

 

[Genghis Kush]

stoked to read this as im currently running packs of Durban Poison and Haze to make a cross.

 

[Genghis Kush]

@Sam the skunkman

seedsman sells a Skunk/Haze x Durban, is that a cross you made?

 

[ThaiBliss]

Durban does have an anise taste or mine did.
Mine were basically THC a tiny bit of THCV, but I did not breed it for Cannabinoids, this was bred in the 70's in Calif before I had access to a GC. If it is extra early and Anise smelling tasting, I bet it is directly from my work. It took me maybe 5 years to clean it up, when I got it every plant was intersex. 5 years later you seldom saw an intersex flower. Still my favorite extra early NLD, (Sativa).
If anyone has seeds of an extra early S African Durban maybe they can tell ThaiBliss how he can get some, from some place?
-SamS

I tried Dutch Passion Durban Poison about 5 years back. I might have gotten the seeds long before that. It had a spicy licorice taste. It had substantial hermaphroditic traits, and I rejected it. I was not able to grow it well indoors. I never tried it outside, because it did not occur to me that it would be early enough. I think I grew three plants, and threw the rest of the seeds away. I am willing to look through many seeds if the average quality of what I'm looking through is good. At the time, I thought that Dutch Passion had a good reputation. I guess it is pretty easy to for a strain to get sideways if you are not selecting from enough numbers. It is a shame, because I keep hearing such good reports about Durban Poison. I'm all ears if someone has had a recent good experience from another company.

I do have a cutting named Blue Cheese Cookies that I believe is 25% Durban Poison. It is one of the most NLD type looking cuttings I have at the moment, so maybe it will check out.

RiddleMe - How are you? I have not seen many posts from you lately. Glad to hear from you. I was actually thinking of asking you about a detailed smoke report from the Kumaoni. If I remember correctly, that is a high altitude Tibetean or near Tibet strain. Have you tested it outdoors to see how early that is? I once had a very narrow leaf drug strain that was extremely early and had very long skinny spears. I think it was done the second week of September with an excellent powerful high, and spicy peppery taste. I would trade my pinky finger to find that again. For some reason, I imagined it was from Tibet or something because I saw some video of plants from Bhutan that looked just like it.

Gorilla Ganja - Keep in touch. We might be able to help each other since I had found sterility problems in trying to breed more pure Bangi Haze seeds. If we are independently preserving it in crosses, it might be healthy to cross them with each other's crosses to reinforce the Bangi high qualities, other than sterility.

Shooters - My kind of garden you got there. Nice. Please do go on about what Lionheart is and a detailed smoke report. Sounds like interesting work. Zamaldelica is definitely trippy by my definition.

MountZionCollective - Another great report about Duban Poison. You guys are killing me. Do you own a dispensary? I'm willing to travel.


Another picture from my garden. These are the Pit Bull (36% THC) that I mentioned before. I will test them myself at the end of the summer. Whoops. I have to clarify, I will have them tested from what I am growing:

Best,

ThaiBliss