The Search for Trip Weed

[MostlyMe]

I am not questioning the T5's, they have been used for ages in growing. They are quite common in my part of the world. I would use them myself, if I didn't need the heat from the HPS or MH for the better part of the year.

I am questioning your claim the quality of your product has anything to do with UV. If anything, your setup shows the importance of (deep) blue light. I mean, come on... you post a paper on the effect on UVB, then it turns out your lights have none. Doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence, does it?

And about not believing you: of course I don't! Do you believe everyone on the internet? Many more claim to grow the best, and have followers of their own. I feel it's no more than reasonable to ask for proof, but you seem unwilling to provide it... except if I buy a ticket to the States. Of course you are under no obligation to prove anything to me or anyone else, but in that case also don't try to prove anything by quote a couple of papers that suit your purpose. Everyone can "prove" almost anything to even an educated audience by cherry picking some papers.

It's not personal man, but I won't apologize for desiring some measure of objectivity. It's fine you believe you got your operation just about perfected - maybe it is, maybe it isn't - but if you start "teaching" and making claims that are obviously not solid, I push back.

 

[Riddleme]

I am not questioning the T5's, they have been used for ages in growing. They are quite common in my part of the world. I would use them myself, if I didn't need the heat from the HPS or MH for the better part of the year.

I am questioning your claim the quality of your product has anything to do with UV. If anything, your setup shows the importance of (deep) blue light. I mean, come on... you post a paper on the effect on UVB, then it turns out your lights have none. Doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence, does it?

And about not believing you: of course I don't! Do you believe everyone on the internet? Many more claim to grow the best, and have followers of their own. I feel it's no more than reasonable to ask for proof, but you seem unwilling to provide it... except if I buy a ticket to the States. Of course you are under no obligation to prove anything to me or anyone else, but in that case also don't try to prove anything by quote a couple of papers that suit your purpose. Everyone can "prove" almost anything to even an educated audience by cherry picking some papers.

It's not personal man, but I won't apologize for desiring some measure of objectivity. It's fine you believe you got your operation just about perfected - maybe it is, maybe it isn't - but if you start "teaching" and making claims that are obviously not solid, I push back.

Nor is it personal on my end, tis merely a conversation

I simply research, experiment and share my results, what folks do with it is up to them. But I'm not gonna give up my bulbs after I found the high I spent years lookin for

Have a great rest of the day !

 

[Pwyll]

One grower is doing several side by sides with clones from the same plants under T5's (same bulbs as I use) and HPS and CMH. He has thus far harvested 2 of em and has one still going. With the 2 harvested he has reported that the yield from the HPS is higher (to be expected) and that the high (effects) are better with the T5's. The yield and high from the CMH's was in the middle, little lower yield than HPS, better than T5. T5's still had the better high. I could prolly get him to come here and discuss if you like (he is a member of my forum)

I would be interested in knowing more about this side by side grow.
What lamps, what bulbs, what effects, what differences in growth, when harvested and such

 

[ThaiBliss]

Grow Journal Note

Grow Journal Note

My outdoor seedlings, from my long time continuous pollen chucking, survived a 25 degree night in my hillbilly greenhouse. It was only supposed to get down to 29 degrees, so I opted to not put a heater out there for the night. I thought it was a risk, but having time to start again and still get a good start on the year, I took it. When I woke up in the morning, I was shocked and scared the 25 degree minimum for the night would have killed them off. Now I know not to panic.

Now I'm scared at how fast they are growing so far. It feels like 80+ degrees inside the greenhouse during the day. I may have to transplant into larger pots before they go into the ground. Looks like I'll have some very big starts by May 7th planting time.


ThaiBliss

 

[Riddleme]

I would be interested in knowing more about this side by side grow.
What lamps, what bulbs, what effects, what differences in growth, when harvested and such

I'll see what I can do ?

 

[MostlyMe]

Nor is it personal on my end, tis merely a conversation

I simply research, experiment and share my results, what folks do with it is up to them. But I'm not gonna give up my bulbs after I found the high I spent years lookin for

Have a great rest of the day !

That's fine man, I am happy you found what you are looking for. Just go easy on the half-assed science, will ya

P.S. Excellent rest of the day: I went to bed

I would be interested in knowing more about this side by side grow.
What lamps, what bulbs, what effects, what differences in growth, when harvested and such

I'll see what I can do ?

Excellent! Thank you!

 

[Riddleme]

I would be interested in knowing more about this side by side grow.
What lamps, what bulbs, what effects, what differences in growth, when harvested and such

This was his answer,,,,,,,

648 watt t5 HO 12 bulb with 1 actinic/1 coral plus/1 true lumen blue 460/3 3000k/3 4100k/3 6500k
600 watt digital hps 25% more blue from htgsupply
400 cmh
ghost is cloned and I evenly placed them under each light in same size pots (2.5/3.5 gal) pots they grow very even from light to light. for some reason the t5 is putting out bigger top buds. hps has bigger lower buds. The smoke from under hps is excellent beets anything around. The T5 will take you to another level of high it blows the hps away. CMH ghost is right in the middle only cause its a 400 watt. If I didnt use the T5's I would use CMH's.

 

[satva]

Highland Thai x Highland Mexican -A

Highland Thai x Highland Mexican -A

Destroyer DS x Highland Mexican (HMBB) ~ 50% Highland Thai x 50% Highland Mexican

DS x HMBB - A/M1 also known at " Sweet Red Legs" M1~ el hombre uno, long flowering

Destroyer -
[(Highland Meao/Hmong Thai (HT)/(1960's Michoacan (HM) /Colombian - (DS) x ("Mr. Klean" Destroyer Meao/Hmong dominate male)]

Highland Mexican -
[1972 Highland Guerero (HM) x Blueberry sativa (BB) f1]

Blueberry -
[(Highland Oaxacan Gold/Chocolate Thai)/(Afgani)] x [Highland Thai/Afgani]

HT x HM -A ~ "Sweet Red Legs", I'm pretty sure is a male.......

 

[satva]

Highland Thai x Highland Mexican -A

Highland Thai x Highland Mexican -A

HT x HM -A ~ La Chicas - uno, dos, tres, cuatro, cinco x Sweet Red Legs
Early flowering

A3- 11 -finger

A2 - Candy Stripes

B4 - Teacher's Pet

C5 - Miss Guava

B5- Bride of Frankincense

 

[satva]

Highland Thai x Highland Mexican -A

Highland Thai x Highland Mexican -A

Late vegetation

A3 - 11-finger

B4 - Teacher's pet

 

[ThaiBliss]

Satva,

Those may be some of the best pictures of what HM x BB genetic experiments look like that I have seen. Looks like you really selected the most extreme Sativa phenotypes. They really don't look like there are any Afghani genetic remnants to be found. I hope the chemotype results match how they look, low CBN and CBD of the final product. Good job growing them also.


ThaiBliss

 

[Pwyll]

This was his answer,,,,,,,

648 watt t5 HO 12 bulb with 1 actinic/1 coral plus/1 true lumen blue 460/3 3000k/3 4100k/3 6500k
600 watt digital hps 25% more blue from htgsupply
400 cmh
ghost is cloned and I evenly placed them under each light in same size pots (2.5/3.5 gal) pots they grow very even from light to light. for some reason the t5 is putting out bigger top buds. hps has bigger lower buds. The smoke from under hps is excellent beets anything around. The T5 will take you to another level of high it blows the hps away. CMH ghost is right in the middle only cause its a 400 watt. If I didnt use the T5's I would use CMH's.

I don't understand: "The smoke from under hps is excellent beets anything around " but it's not as good as the T5 or the MH?

the HPS and Metal halide both hortilux eye? or equivalent?

How big did the clones grow? No difference in veg growth? That is strange

 

[satva]

Thanks Thaibliss,

A2 and A3 females and M1 and M2 males = one Thai dominate and one HMBB dominate of each.
[(HT x HM -A2) x (HM x HM - M1)]
[(HT x HM -A3) x [(HT x HM - M1)],
same for M2 male.
Four lots (HT x HM -A) f2

B4 - Destroyer / Hmong Thai dominate has my favorite high, so far <g>.
B4 is the mother of what I call (HT x HM -B)
HT x HM -B1 = [B4 x (HT x HMBB - B1) and,
HT x HM - B2) = [B4 x (HMBB - B2)].
B4 x Sweet Red Legs is (B4 x HT / HM- B/m1) and,
B4 x Perfume Skunk (B4 x HT x HM -B/m2)

C-5 Miss Guava was the only Mango Haze x HMBB pheno out of 10 plants with the Guava Lemoncello smell. The plan was to cross B4 x C5, but I found no Mr. Guava in 6 males. maybe next time.
C5 x Sweet Red Legs [(Mango Haze x HMBB-A/m1) x HT x HM -A/m1]

B5 - Bride of Frankincense is Destroyer A1 x Pakistani Chitral Kush select for sativa thin leaf.
B5 is the mother of Destroyer x Pakistani Chitral Kush x HMBB m1 (HT x HM -C/m1) and B5 x Pakistani Chirtal Kush x HMBB m2 (HT x HM -C/m2)
B5 has Frankincense smell both in the jar and the middle terpene vapors. B5 is basically untested but is the first cross in search of a spiritual effect. In the future search for spiritual effect B5 is out and C5 is in. I prefer the high of Destroyer A1 and Destroyer B4 B4 without the PCK.

[(Highland Nepalese x Jamaican Blue Mountain) x (Koh Chong Thai)] has a spiritual ring to it.

 

[idiit]

was searching stuff on ace violeta and came across this.

didn't want to interrupt the excellent light information but could not let this post from terpene slip by:

I find Malawi more deeply moving than "zomg what the hell is going on?!" like some of the other trippier strains can be. If you're looking for truly crazy psychedelic experiences, try Zamaldelica or Purple Haze x Malawi. Also try Purple Haze or Purple Haze x Thai (for a faster version) but they're more dreamy psychedelic than they are nutty - though the thai influence in the latter definitely adds some energy.

Just a heads up, I have definitely had "I don't know if I want to be here anymore" moments on Zamaldelica and Purple Haze x Malawi. Especially Zamaldelica, which ranges from threateningly stoned to downright terrifyingly fun with vision at 2 frames per second.

 

[satva]

interrupt the excellent light

follow the light!
smoke test of course dry sift / mostly resin of each strain.

Destroyer Meao Thai x Highland Guerrero x Blueberry
Destroyer (gold flower shown on left) Frankincense smell both in the jar and the middle terpene vapors initial terpenes are Lime Guava/Lemon. Clear spirit high, pleasurable, uplifting heavenly, spiritual effect or Thai Bliss. Destroyer's euphoria is souring blue sky, spiritual effect.

Highland Guerrero x Blueberry (HMBB) -(blue and green flower) Highland Mexican is very psychedelic. Energy, and especially sunlight dance all over the place. Heightened sensory awareness, magnetic attraction to the earth and your world is magical. Or as Don Juan would say " Seeing."

HT X HM females were Hmong Thai dominate - Uplifting, Heavenly or Spiritual flow of energy.
Guerrero males Perfume/ Temple incense / lime terpenes provide magic, strong energy connections to your senses, everything you see in pure sunlight is magical, trippy. Opps,........... I said the trip word.............

DS x HMBB male on the right

 

[ThaiBliss]

Congrats Satva,

Say "Trip Weed", and say it proudly. I'm glad some people are finding it. Funny... I was just reading a passage from Carlos Castaneda just last week. I haven't read his series in 30 years. I'm thinking of reading them again.

I'm so happy to be flowering the SAGE again. It has been a while. I'm due for that Zen moment I can get from SAGE under the right conditions. Between SAGE and the others, the grow cabinet is really pungent.

ThaiBliss

 

[Madjag]

"Look at every path closely and deliberately.
Try it as many times as you think necessary.
Then ask yourself and yourself alone one question...
Does this path have a heart?
If it does, it is good. If it doesn't it is of no use."
- Carlos Castaneda

 

[Madjag]

 

[idiit]

Licorice and anise taste, psyquedelic as phuck high! FIRE!

ElRubio

durban poison fiya pheno? nope! (Reunion x Congo x sativa) Mario´s cut. queen mother from delicatessen seeds (available at cbg site)

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=36181&page=647

edited to add: pic of queen mother spanish cut by paulo73:

if you want to +rep the pic. please give it to paulo73 here


drop dead, fucking beautiful and the high effects we are searching for; mario's cut.

there are many phenos of zamal. at least one is highly psychoactive. the auto zamal from zamaldelica that i have hasn't shown high psychoactivy yet. neither has the seeds of africa zamal. maybe the queen mother does. or, maybe, like zamaldelica the proper zamal hybrid brings in the necessary ingredients for the "psychoactive genome".

A genome is an organism’s complete set of DNA, including all of its genes. Each genome contains all of the information needed to build and maintain that organism

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

It has been a long time since I grew SAGE, and I did not document it very well at the time. In light of this, I'll repost an old picture of a mature SAGE fan leaf, and a current branch starting to flower that shows the strong zig-zag growth pattern of the stem. I consider the fat leaves a WLD trait, obviously, and the zig-zagging stem typical of NLD strains from yesteryear. Notice also that at the focus of the leaf the fingers narrow up and don't overlap or touch each other as many WLD strains do.

I threw in a picture of the little nugget buds that cured so nicely after 9 months to a pine/turpentine aroma. If you squint your eyes, you can almost see the violet hues that these buds got when the temperature dropped to below 60 at night.

This cutting is the closest to my definition of trip weed that I have so far. You can just get into a whole different orbit of sensory perceptions and thinking with this weed. It's enough to tease me, and encourage my quest, but not potent enough or long lasting enough to fully satisfy my desire to grow the world class level of weed of my life's experiences. It did seem to breed well to ACE Purple Haze Thai, which makes it valuable as something that might tame a more difficult to grow NLD strain.

Hatchbrew - Did the SAGE you liked so much look anything like this? I have not seen any pictures of SAGE that look very much like this one.

ThaiBliss