The Search for Trip Weed

[BigNoise]

ThaiBliss, awesome thread!

ValleyKush led me here from another thread: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298572&page=3

I was wondering what lat you were growing at? If I had to guess, I'd say inland NorCal or Southern Oregon....am I close?

I'm planning on my first outdoor grow this year, and looking at running a few Hybrids From Hell strains, and was also looking at some Ace stuff, specifically Bangi, and possibly Panama and Tikal. I'll be growing near the coast at 46* north.

What kind of yield did your Bangi's pull?

 

[ThaiBliss]

Ahortator - I have at least a few more Jamaican seeds. I'm growing one at a time because I also have so many others to try. I'm a kid in a candy store who wants all of them, but have limited space. If I wound up with 6 males and 2 females, I'd be happy. I just hope I don't have to grow 6 males in a row before I come across a female.


BigNoise - Thanks for the good vibes. Yep, you have me pegged, as I live in Southwest Oregon. My indoor Bangi Haze was a big yielder. Outside, they seemed to range from medium/light to medium/heavy. I think it depends on the phenotype and conditions. I'm growing them again this year, along with a couple other strains.

ThaiBliss

 

[BigNoise]

Sounds like they are probably worth a try up my way.

Any experience with Panama or Tikal? I might order a pack each of Bangi and Panama (if it's worth a go...Ace says up to 45*N...I'm at 46*), and pick Tikal for my freebies. Or just get 2 packs of Bangi, and have more pheno choices.

What's the approximate male percentage in Ace packs?

 

[ThaiBliss]

Any experience with Panama or Tikal? I might order a pack each of Bangi and Panama (if it's worth a go...Ace says up to 45*N...I'm at 46*), and pick Tikal for my freebies. Or just get 2 packs of Bangi, and have more pheno choices.

No experience with those others, yet.

What's the approximate male percentage in Ace packs?

Of all I have grown, all put together, I'd say slightly more females than males.

Hope this helps,

T.B.

 

[BigNoise]

It does indeed. Thanks.

 

[satva]

Highland Thai x Highland Mexican - A

Highland Thai x Highland Mexican - A

[2003 Destroyer (DS)~ f7 x (1972 Highland Guerrero (HM) / Blueberry (BB) f1] or

DS x HMBB which is -

[(Highland Meao/Hmong Thai (HT) +f3-f7/(1960's Michoacan (HM) /Colombian - (DS) / ("Mr. Klean" is Destroyer f3 ~ Meao/Hmong dominate male)] x [1972 Highland Guerero (HM) x Blueberry sativa (BB) f1]

Blueberry is [(Highland Oaxacan Gold/Chocolate Thai)/Afgani] x [Highland Thai/Afgani]

Depending on the selections - DS x HMBB is ~
50% Highland Thai x 50% Highland Mexican.
What I call ~ Highland Thai (HT) x Highland Mexican (HM) or HT x HM -A

Highland Guerrero dominate male (machos) selected from HT x HM -A, earlier flowering- the male I cut in half


Highland Meao/Hmong Thai dominate male (machos) selected from HT x HM - A, beginning to flower


PS> home for a bit , now back ~ "On the road again".

PPS> Maybe I'm tripping, or blissed out -, or not> I keep hearing a mantra whispering in my ear, sounds something like......... Punto Rojo,...... Punto Rojo,........ Punto Rojo.....................

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hi Satva,

Ha! I just complimented your pictures in the Highland Mex. x Blueberry thread. Thanks for posting here.

I already have a picture of Punto Rojo I pilfered from someone else in an album I created long ago. Primed and ready to go. Can't wait to post pictures of my own.

Best,

ThaiBliss

 

[ThaiBliss]

Have a wifi X tahoe that turned out pretty trippy. The closest thing to trip weed I've had. A friend and I took 2 hits and sometime later we looked at each other wondering how much time had just passed. It could have been 2 minutes or 10. All we knew was we were higher then normal from just 2 hits. Effect is very spacey and long lasting. She smells great too.

Greetings,

I have had Tahoe OG come up on my radar more than once, and it did again today. I met a guy who is almost as old as me, and remembers Thai Stick, Mexican Red Hair (piney), Lemon Thai, etc.. I think he liked the Red Hair the best, because he mentioned it several times. Anyway, he said that the closest thing he has to those strains of yesteryear are L.A. Confidential which he provided me with, and Tahoe OG. I had a sample of L.A. Confidential about 5 years ago. I'd say the two best smokes I've had since I grew that special freakily potent Neville's Haze 10 years ago were Thai Skunk, and L.A. Confidential. I was literally begging a guy for that L.A. Confidential cut for two years before I gave up. That guy avoids me now, and I don't blame him. LOL. Anyway, the guy I met today says that Tahoe OG is the only one in the OG class of strains that he has tried that is any good. He loves it. He says he is going to get me a cut in a few weeks.


I think the OG Kush lines are related to the Headband that I have in the flowering cabinet right now.

Keeping Hope Alive,

ThaiBliss

 

[Riddleme]

Greetings,

I have had Tahoe OG come up on my radar more than once, and it did again today. I met a guy who is almost as old as me, and remembers Thai Stick, Mexican Red Hair (piney), Lemon Thai, etc.. I think he liked the Red Hair the best, because he mentioned it several times. Anyway, he said that the closest thing he has to those strains of yesteryear are L.A. Confidential which he provided me with, and Tahoe OG. I had a sample of L.A. Confidential about 5 years ago. I'd say the two best smokes I've had since I grew that special freakily potent Neville's Haze 10 years ago were Thai Skunk, and L.A. Confidential. I was literally begging a guy for that L.A. Confidential cut for two years before I gave up. That guy avoids me now, and I don't blame him. LOL. Anyway, the guy I met today says that Tahoe OG is the only one in the OG class of strains that he has tried that is any good. He loves it. He says he is going to get me a cut in a few weeks.


I think the OG Kush lines are related to the Headband that I have in the flowering cabinet right now.

Keeping Hope Alive,

ThaiBliss

I was recently gifted a Tahoe OG male cutting, I am currently making good use of it

 

[MostlyMe]

At the start of week 10 I am starting to see two plants going purple:

Double Jam:

And a Purple Haze Thai:

This is another pheno of PHT, growing elongated foxtails:

 

[idiit]

lil sumptn to ease another cold wintry day:

I had the good fortune, sitting in a swimming pool in a camp ground, to meet a fellow friend in Malawi in 2012 who rolled me a joint of malawi gold to take away. He warned me not to smoke it all at once.

I was 18, and far from a chronic smoker. The next night I lit it with an ember from the camp fire...and smoked most of it..but lost track of the roach when the hallucinations kicked in.

I was sitting on a log in front of the fire. I fell backwards off the log. It took me 5 minutes to hit the ground. Each infinitesimal section of the journey earthwards was akin to a strobe light lit moment in time. Each section of the journey earthwards was a self contained experience.

After my brain processed the "holy fuck - here we go..." moment, flat on my back, I recall touching my tent to make sure I was still physically present.

I was diverted by a glimpse, out of the corner of my eye, of a lion waving to me from the bough of a close by tree. And i went to say hello...

link

been smoking soa mg. the od crop did not finish all the way but is still popular wid customers. the id run #2 is not quite as good as id run #1. i turn off everything and just close my eyes 'cause what's in my head is mo better. am not hearing the little voice telling me i've overdosed this round. got another id clone finishing. looks like the rols (recycled organic living soil) is better suited on round #3 by looking at the plant. looks like the soa mg needs proper nutrition and hot sun/lamps during flowering to finish peak performance wise. still is very nice in sub-prime conditions.

better pics. by going to my albums and clicking a pic. to enlarge photo.

outdoor bud shot:

id run #2:

id run #3 (looks more 'dialed in' imo):

the indoor runs are for seed hybrids and future clones for 2015 od season.. i defoliate to allow more plants/limited space. solo 400w hps.

 

[MostlyMe]

@Mustafunk (who asked about this via reputation): don't know which strain you were referring to - I suspect Double Jam - but I haven't seen bananas in any plant this grow.

To all: will leaves that have yellowed still turn purple? It doesn't really matter, but it looks kinda cool. I am starting to see some yellowing already, and they won't be getting much N anymore

 

[ThaiBliss]

Good Morning Tripsters,

I'm preparing for my outdoor grow this summer, and since I'm going to take on some medical patients and recreational legalization is on it's way, I'm planning on diversifying my outdoor strain collection. I found something named Fruity Pebbles, that I was told came from Mendocino Madness parentage. I did some research and found that it is expected to ripen in September, which is good news for mold prevention. I also came across a smoke report in which the author complained that it is too racy for them. This sounds good to me, since most of the trippiest weed I have smoked is energetic/racy/scary/stimulative.

If anyone has experience with Mendocino Madness, I'd appreciate any information.

I'm also going to the dark side. Did I say dark? I meant dank. I busted out my old outdoor seeds that are more on the stony/couch-lock/narcotic side. I've grown these, outcrossed, and even slightly line bred these genetics for 30+ year. The last time I grew these was about 3 years ago. They only got 3 - 4 feet tall, but they were HEAVY producers. The last plant I crossed the seed line to was an Indica leaning Trainwreck cutting that had beer can shaped buds. So many strains are wrapped up in these seeds. The notable ones that I remember were:

Perky - Afghani Thai cross with Thai leaning effects.

Seeing God - Sativa effects and ripe by Sept 15th. One on my short list of all time best weed I ever grew. I'd lose everything I have to have that one back.

Purple Bud - Narcotic, aromatic, and TASTY, like hash oil! This strain, and a couple of subsequent generations made me a very popular guy. One of the subsequent generations that were line bred was named "Purple Looker".

Skunk #1 - Nice blend of Sativa/Indica effects. Much like Colombian.

Burmese - Indica looking, but trippy weed. Not on my all time short list of best I ever grew, but very solid, and dearly missed.

Trainwreck - Stony but with significant Sativa influence.

I'm expecting highly variable plants in this generation, some of which will have buds that will be huge, 6 inch + diameter buds. It should make for some interesting pictures this late summer. Given the gene pool of these seeds, it is possible to get some good and trippy results, but I'd have to be very lucky to find one. My experience tells me that narcotic effects are stubbornly dominate.

I'm also going to grow a few Black Afghani Domino plants for that knock out Indica effect.

Have a great day,

ThaiBliss

 

[Pwyll]

how about grow conditions?

how about grow conditions?

The only trip weed I have ever had was grown outside. In Kerala in southern India.

When growing indoors how much effect do the grow conditions have on the trippiness or otherwise of the weed?

Any thoughts?

Boom Shankar!

 

[Riddleme]

The only trip weed I have ever had was grown outside. In Kerala in southern India.

When growing indoors how much effect do the grow conditions have on the trippiness or otherwise of the weed?

Any thoughts?

Boom Shankar!

A LOT !!!

 

[Pwyll]

To specifics then: First - Light spectrum.

Do you feel that for the trippiness - the last month or so of flowering is the most important?

How much of an effect does light spectrum have during this period? I see Riddleme you grow with multiple fluorescents so you can dial in the spectrum.

Does using a mix of HPS/ MH make a big difference vs HPS only, or is it best to switch to all MH in the last couple of weeks?

Also, living up here at 8000' how much advantage is to be gained by moving the plants out into full-spectrum sunlight whenever possible?

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hi Pwyll,

I think Riddleme had done better experimentation on this, but here is my two cents:

To specifics then: First - Light spectrum.

Do you feel that for the trippiness - the last month or so of flowering is the most important?

I honestly don't know. But I have smoked weed that did not seem like anything special, and then two weeks later, found it changed dramatically. I don't know that it means that the plant did not need certain conditions earlier that primed the plant to mature properly.

How much of an effect does light spectrum have during this period? I see Riddleme you grow with multiple fluorescents so you can dial in the spectrum.

Does using a mix of HPS/ MH make a big difference vs HPS only, or is it best to switch to all MH in the last couple of weeks?

I have grown by blending warm and cool fluorescents or metal halide and high pressure sodium from the first time I ever grew indoors. It just made sense to me, but I have never attempted controlled experiments. It has always done well by me. Now it is becoming more and more popular.

Also, living up here at 8000' how much advantage is to be gained by moving the plants out into full-spectrum sunlight whenever possible?

The sun is very bright and powerful, even at low altitudes. When I have moved plants outdoors, they get sunburned because they are not used to it. I usually move them out when the weather is projected to be cloudy, and I still put them under at least partial shade from trees at first to slowly get them used to it. I don't know about moving them in and out. I have to work very hard to keep my indoor area pest free. Sometimes I can go for 5 years or more of pest free growing without having to resort to chemical attacks on pests. I never spray flowering plants with anything, "organic" or not. I'm way too careful to avoid bringing anything inside to attempt such a plan.

I hope Riddleme has time to respond, since he does some very interesting experimentation with regards to your questions.

ThaiBliss

 

[Siever]

Hi Pwyll,

I honestly don't know. But I have smoked weed that did not seem like anything special, and then two weeks later, found it changed dramatically. I don't know that it means that the plant did not need certain conditions earlier that primed the plant to mature properly.


ThaiBliss

Seems very logic cuz if you harvest too soon, the flowers haven't reached optimal ripeness. If you mean that you've harvested them on optimal ripeness time but didn't let them cure properly: to be honest I have never had the patience to wait such a long time to cure them properly. I just hang them upside down in the attic and let them dry completely were they hang. If I need some I just break it off. I have never been able to see any improvement in time of drying. Of course it's not proper curement.

Siever

 

[Pwyll]

Hi ThaiBliss - I've done a couple of grows moving the plants outside and haven't really had any issues with pests. By introducing the plants to the sun gradually I haven't had problems with the sun damaging the plants. But if I compare the plants to plants grown indoors mine look much more "weather beaten". The changes in light/temp/humidity/wind create a sturdy and healthy looking plant - but I wonder if the additional stresses may impede the development of the THC/cannibanoids, by forcing the plant to spend more energy on its infrastructure?

 

[Pwyll]

by weather beaten - I mean the stems are stiffer and the leaves less uniform in size. They look like they could survive outdoors, rather than a hothouse variety