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[satva]

Mango C

mango

Mango -1

Highland Mexican male


SoiledMyself, Beautiful flowers! I haven't grown the silver pheno-type of Mango Haze.

PrimalHaze, <lol> I too have been burning Frankincense incense on charcoal. Frankincense has a Sweet spicyLemon/Pine/Cedar Wood different smell than a Musk / Sandalwood temple incense (stick) smell. I like both. Destroyer in the jar for 9 months is developing Frankincense aroma, much better than early aroms of Hay/Straw. Destroyer / PCK - 3 sweeter in the jar, and in flower, but has Frankincense aroma in the smoke.

Mesosphere how's the high on the Sengal Haze and Angola Red? I don't know much about African genetics? Who has the best African seeds?

MostlyMe, I'm excited you're growing Double Thai.

Smoke report on five Mango Haze phneo-types I've been smoking for 2 years. Report done straight.

I've grown five sativa dominate pheno-types of Mango Haze (MH). I select for thin leaf sativa traits and cull plants with indica traits. I crossed four pheno-types to a Highland Mexican HMBB (Highland Guerrero) dominate male. Highland Mexican is stronger, more energetic, wilder, and more psychedelic than Mango Haze, but similar effect ~ free flowing feel good energy.

How I labeled them:

mango ~ 13.5 week flowering, the most indica effect. Smells very sweet and strong in flower. Smell in the jar is dead on mango fruit. Thicker leaves.

Mango A ~ 15 week flowering. Smells citrus in flower. Smell in the jar is citrus/cedar/pine. The effect is spacious, with a wonderful energy flow and sense of well being with some stone. Symmetrical branching. Thin leaves.

Mango B ~ 13 weeks flowering. Smell in the jar is floral. The effect is calmer, clearer, and less psychedelic. Haven't sampled this one much, but effect has the spacious quality similar to Mango C. Symmetrical branching.

Mango C ~ +17 weeks. Smell in flowering is very sweet perfume/rose/orange blossom. Smell in the jar is pure lemon / floral. The effect is clear, clam sophisticated, uplifting spacious, with a sense of well being. Similar to the effect of some Thailand marijuana. Almost no stone in the head or body. The high's primary effect is a sense of well being and clarity. Asymmetrical branching, haze structure with very thin leaves.

Mango Haze 1 ~ 16 weeks. Smell in the jar cedar/incense/citrus. The effect is strong, spacious, psychedelic, with a good energy flow. The energy has a wave like rolling vibration in the head - other than that - the effect is clear <vbg>. Not as clear, calm and focused as Mango C. Symmetrical branching with long thin leaves. The effect is similar to a Colombian haze. Mango Haze -1 / HMBB x HMBB f2 seeded flowers are almost done. Mango Haze -1 x HMBB inherited the worst of both parents, either that or the flowering duration increased, instead of decreasing. Grows like a wispy haze with wispy flower-tops, not sure how it smokes.

Mango C / HMBB male will be crossed to Destroyer ( Highland Meao Thai dominate pheno-type) female. Lemoncello Thai domainte x Highland Thai woody/cedar/sage. Destroyer (good name) is much more destroying than Mango C, but with a similar clear and concentrated effect. Mango -C - beauty is calm and clear, not partially strong or psychedelic, but a wonderful uplifting effect. Mango C is cleaner and calmer than Destroyer. Five Mango C / HMBB seedlings are dating my favorite Destroyer (Highland Thai dominate) female clone.

Highland Meao Thai and Highland Guerrero dominate pheno-types, in general have an old school effect ~ raw, natural ceiling-less, strong psychedelic energy definitely a notch or two stronger than Mango Haze. Mango haze effect has a tamer sense of well being, well rounded sophisticated effect, with some indica effects, and less raw energy, and a ceiling to the high. The effect of Mango Haze is similar to Highland Mexican x Blueberry.

PS> Very happy with the seed run of Destroyer / PCK -2 x HMBB f2 and Destroyer/ PCK -3 x HMBB f2 and my first Highland Thailand x Highland Mexican seedlings. Already skunky Mexican aromas in the house.

 

[bringyalungs]

left segal haze 05, right DP Durban Poison fem (8 weeks, 2 days on the durban)
under 2 cfls 32W 6500K...holla

 

[MostlyMe]

MostlyMe - I'd like to see you pop those seeds and keep us updated with how they do.

+1

Will do, but my facilities have been booked for the next couple of months

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings People,

Glad to see so many posts of trippy and likely trippy feel good strains. I'm drooling at my computer today.

Satva - You're killing me with those descriptions. Got to get me some Destroyer. People really seem to find some good sounding ones in there. I did manage to get some line bred Mango Haze seeds. Also got some Colombian Gold x Cinderella 99. If the GNT x NHz x MM turns out like good Thai, I may be able to create something close with what I have already.

Mesophere - I've seen some great pictures of Senegal Haze from SnowHigh. Have you grown it before?

O.K., I have to try to keep up with the Jones', so I'm throwing down some pictures of GNTx... I took a sample of a fox-tail on the bud that is looking very close to being ripe. It smell is different than the other buds, with an incense smell that some of the less ripe looking ones don't have as much of. The less ripe buds still smell very limey, sweet and a touch of cat piss. Funny thing, was when I got my grubby fingers on that fox-tail, it smelled the same as a less ripe bud. The aroma is a very sweet key lime pie.

I was starting to think that I might harvest each branch as they start changing to a more incense like smell, but I don't know. I'll be sampling the fox-tail I picked soon.

Here she is:

In the last picture, I can actually see resin glands turning amber. They are at the oldest and most blanched calyxes on the left.

More...

 

[ThaiBliss]

I took some pictures with my USB scope. Here are some of the oldest and most faded out calyxes. As you can see, there are many amber colored resin glands. This it true amber, or maybe even a little copper colored. It is somewhat clear and exactly the color of some amber that you might find from some petrified tree sap. There also seems to be some that have gone black. I don't believe I have seen that one until now:

Next, a little higher up on the fox-tail you can see a good range of resins, amber; clear; cloudy.

Here is another for good measure:

This next one is a little more up the fox-tail, and is a touch green:

But wait... there's more.

 

[ThaiBliss]

These pictures are now going higher up the fox-tail, with greener color chlorophyll, more cloudy resin, and eventually more clear resins:

What do you think?

Hey Riddleme - You need one of these USB scopes. I think I spent about $30.00 for this one.

ThaiBliss

 

[Dave Coulier]

Tropical Seeds offers a Durban crossed with Ciskei, a short flowering South African sativa. I have some beans, but don't know if they are any good.

@Dave, those are quite wide leaves for a Thai, aren't they? Also quite a shade greener than my Destroyer.

I like your setup, very sciency at and that, but eventually I ditched all the meters and went organic + RO water. Never had a problem that couldn't be solved by a little something something extra from a bottle (like Ca, Mg).

If you got the seeds go for it pal. If I were in your spot Id be jumping to grow out those beans. Go Durban!

I was surprised at how large the leaves are but not so much at the width. As soon as I saw the second set of leaves were 5 bladed I felt there was no doubt about her origins. She's up to 9 bladed leaves at this point. I hope she'll hit 11 later on.

She certainly has big leaves though. Much larger than the ShitHaze variety Ive been growing lately. And this is only under 50/50 mix of 6500K and 2700K 54w T5HO Bulbs before being moved to an Ushio MH Conversion Bulb(IIRC). If I moved her under HPS I would see even larger leaves down the line. I bet these leaves get huge outdoors. So far there's been no stretch to worry about under this configuration but we've got awhile to go before the stretch phase begins.

You know I tried the organic and RO water a few years ago but I couldn't achieve what I was looking for so I went back to chem nutrients, my meters, added suction lystimeters, even soil tensiometers. Im kinda anal, and ocd all at the same time, so being able to have access to all this extra information was pretty much perfect for me. I love it but I can see how it definitely would be a headache for someone who may want a little more of a laid back approach.

As for the darker green, the mix I transplanted them into is a recylced mix that was/is too hot for her. Thanks to the blumats and constant moisture levels provided she's dealt with the excessively high EC levels atm, but she still needs to be flushed tonight.

Dave - Those plants are looking wicked good. Thanks for posting those beautiful pics. So far so good. Congrats on getting both genders for seed making.

MostlyMe - I'd like to see you pop those seeds and keep us updated with how they do.

Thanks TB. Im pretty happy with how their progessing along. Ill need to snag some pics of the boy tonight so you can see him too. He's smaller than her, but he has the same large fan leaves and a lighter green color than sis. Ive yet to transplant him into the same mix as I did the female, which would explain the lighter color. I imagine the male's color profile will closer match mostlyme's destroyer.

 

[satva]

Thaibliss the GNT x MM ~ incredible. Looks ready to start smoke tasting the colitas with amber. I'd leave some (all) on long sections of stem to cure in glass.

Best Colombian Gold posts (by others) I've found on the web! Page 3, posts #45 and page 4 post #47. If you don't mind I'll file it here, as it associates trippy effect, and Frankincense aroma with Thai sticks and Colombian Gold.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=86412&page=3

PS> If you repot long flowering sativas after 5- 6 weeks of flower, they send out wispy new growth / flower stalks that look like your GNT x MM flowers. I cured those ultra wispy flowers on the stems in tall glass jars. Excellent photography.

 

[Riddleme]

Hey TB, I have one it was $80 and does 100X, 200X and 400X pics

 

[Riddleme]

some 400X shots, they are a lot of fun to focus lol

 

[Riddleme]

Can't be the true amber guy without being able to look at em

 

[Dave Coulier]

Excellent shots Riddleme. Care to share the brand of the USB Scope you use?

 

[Riddleme]

Excellent shots Riddleme. Care to share the brand of the USB Scope you use?

opps, price has gone up and only one left

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=155191ZV3HWTZ6J14CD3

 

[ThaiBliss]

Ha! Nice shots Riddleme.

What I meant by true amber, is that they look like real amber, the stuff they use for jewelry. Do you think that GNT x HHz x MM is going to be trippy based on the pictures I posted?

what do you think about the ripeness? It is kind of hard when one fox-tail shows about all levels of ripeness.

Thanks,

ThaiBliss

Thanks.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Thaibliss the GNT x MM ~ incredible. Looks ready to start smoke tasting the colitas with amber. I'd leave some (all) on long sections of stem to cure in glass.

Best Colombian Gold posts (by others) I've found on the web! Page 3, posts #45 and page 4 post #47. If you don't mind I'll file it here, as it associates trippy effect, and Frankincense aroma with Thai sticks and Colombian Gold.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=86412&page=3

PS> If you repot long flowering sativas after 5- 6 weeks of flower, they send out wispy new growth / flower stalks that look like your GNT x MM flowers. I cured those ultra wispy flowers on the stems in tall glass jars. Excellent photography.

Satva - Thanks for posting this. This picture looks like the more moderately blanched/blonde parts of the buds I have:

ThaiBliss

 

[Riddleme]

Ha! Nice shots Riddleme.

What I meant by true amber, is that they look like real amber, the stuff they use for jewelry. Do you think that GNT x HHz x MM is going to be trippy based on the pictures I posted?

what do you think about the ripeness? It is kind of hard when one fox-tail shows about all levels of ripeness.

Thanks,

ThaiBliss

Thanks.

They def look like true amber to me but not seeing any red IMO they would benefit from some sulfur

The few black ones would be the ones to watch for ripeness by trics, don't want many of those !!!

Based on the pics, I'd prolly go a few (or more) weeks longer, I like lots o amber

Bud looks tasty though and I look forward to the smoke report !!!

When we smoke my CTF we should have some of this too

 

[ThaiBliss]

They def look like true amber to me but not seeing any red IMO they would benefit from some sulfur

Please remind me what to use. I am only using about a tablespoon of Epsom Salt in a 55 gallon tank.

When we smoke my CTF we should have some of this too

You got it. Sounds great.

 

[Riddleme]

Please remind me what to use. I am only using about a tablespoon of Epsom Salt in a 55 gallon tank.



You got it. Sounds great.

I would double it as I use a 1/4 teaspoon to a gallon which translates into I use a tablespoon to 12 gallons

Plus all my nutes also have sulfur in em

IMO all growers should be doing the Potassium Sulfate (18 % sulfur) in the last weeks of flower, I use 1/4 teaspoon to a gallon mixed with 1/4 teaspoon of the Aquagold (9% sulfur)

edit, felt I needed to add I mix by the gallon

 

[Riddleme]

Plus, sometimes I assume or take for granted that growers should know the ratios and antagonistic relationships with nutes ? Your water may be low in Calcium which affects how much Mag to use the ratio should be 1 to 7 Cal to Mag so when adding Epsom salts this should be taken into consideration.

This is not directed at TB or anyone, I added it for new growers reading the thread

 

[satva]

Colombian Gold photo ~ beautiful pale yellow / lime seeds at 100% orange stamen stage. I'm harvesting Blond / yellow seeds with light brown molting from Highland Thai - B x Highland Mexican f2 (HT X HM -B) ~ 14 weeks from clone, just starting amber. I harvest seeds when the colitas are more mature / golden than the Colombian Gold photo and your GNT x MM.

The colitas from those Colombian Gold photos are very delicate ~ like spring rain in the forest.

PS> The high from blending dry sift of Destroyer - 2 and the Lemoncello pheno-type (Mango C) is exquisite / blissful, not so trippy, unless bliss is your trip!

PPS> Do you think that GNT x HHz x MM is going to be trippy based on the pictures I posted? ~~~ Yes !!