The Search for Trip Weed

[ThaiBliss]

Looking good MostlyMe.


I'm forgetting how much experience you have had with Destroyer and Bangi Haze. I think Bangi Haze dips it's big toe into the trippy pool, and I have heard some reports of Destroyer phenotypes that sound solidly trippy. Looks like you could give an early report on those in about a month.

 

[bushweed]

Hi TB, I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but I made a discovery when I went to visit the two autoflowering Copalitas this morning; one of them had developed into a rampant hermi, which I plucked. It's been flowering for about 8 weeks after about a month's veg time. The early flowering was serendipitous, because the pollen was too early to affect others nearby....

The smell is actually very nice - lemon and grape - and the scent on the other one (which is nana free and appears to be revegging), is even better, a complex sweet haze hybrid like smell. The lemon and grape is quite familiar to me from sampling some of wallyduck's C99 hybrids. If I had to guess I'd say these Copalita's are a Mexican/crippy hybrid, something like NL/SK, maybe Shiva Skunk, SSH, C99 or Jack Herer.

Please don't feel bad about passing these on bro. I'm looking forward to having a little smoke to see what it's like, and it frees up the space for another plant anyway

 

[ThaiBliss]

Bushweed,

The Copalita I grew indoors had a very slight hermaphroditism. I found a handful of what looked like some strange growths that did not look distinctly like male pollen sacks, but looked like they were trying to be. I think I have found a about a half dozen seeds on the GNT x NHz x MM plant that I attribute to those almost male looking growths from Copalita. There could be more, and I'll know only when the GNT x NHz x MM ever matures. It is now throwing out a few similar male tending growths. These I consider very minor hermaphrodites that tend to occur when trying to grow Sativas indoors. The plant in your picture looks like it has much more like well developed males which if I would have seen on my plant, I would have culled it also.

What is mystifying to me is that your other Copalita is re-vegetating, assuming that they were planted after your winter solstice and have never had their diurnal cycle interrupted by artificial light. Perhaps all they needed was to be planted a month or two later than you did.

My plant from the same seed container never expressed any lemon or grape aroma. It started out spicy, and ended up minty and menthol as the dominant aromas. I can only conclude that these seeds were not from an inbred pure line, or there was a mix up somewhere along the way.

I hope you get something that matures and is worth smoking.

ThaiBliss

 

[HatchBrew]

You're freaking awesome man! This is what I'm here for! Do you start flowering on 12/12 or do you start/run them differently. Planning on force flowering my outdoor sativa next season. Start them flowering in August (or earlier) instead of Sept/Oct.

 

[ThaiBliss]

You're freaking awesome man!

I assume you have seen posts of Bushweed's plants, and mean him, but since he grows outdoors and has yet to answer you, I'll interject.

Do you start flowering on 12/12 or do you start/run them differently. Planning on force flowering my outdoor sativa next season. Start them flowering in August (or earlier) instead of Sept/Oct.

I start my seedlings under constant lighting. Everyone says not to do this, but I don't listen because I'm too cheap to buy yet another timer. I try to let the plants mature for a couple of months before flowering. Then I put them straight into a 12/12 cycle for at least a month. Then I go to 11.5 / 12.5. I've gotten talked into going to 11/13 lately due to info from another thread in combination with having a plant on week 23! I do know that I've have ruined another batch of weed by going too far when I used a 10/14 cycle. I'd stay around 11 to 11.5 for Sativas.

Got to go to the grindstone,

ThaiBliss

 

[HatchBrew]

I believe seeds should be started under close t5 lights. I leave room in the 4 inch pot for top filling to deal with seedling stretch. I do 18 hours for veg.

My thinking for flowering time lighting indoors would be to start them on the 11/13 on off schedule to induce flowering, than raise it back to twelve 12 once
Things are happening...say two months. Or just keep it simple and run 12 the whole time?

I was proclaiming any sativa growing head as awesome especially the info and thoughts that are being presented here.

 

[sourpuss]

Anyone here try warlock from early 2000s? Got a clone only that sends me soaring hard. Bright lights and cartoon vision. Happy euphoria. Feeling of unfamiliarity in a very familiar setting. Classic head stone. Intense is a good description of the buzz. Really sativa tho im really surprised. Not sure what your exact definition is but would be a killer strain for your stable...

 

[sdd420]

Keep hearing about it but never tried it here in NorCal peace sdd

 

[Dave Coulier]

Day 15 Thai Seedlings

Day 15 Thai Seedlings

Well my little Thai seedlings are now 14/15 days old and strumming right along. One has clearly stood out as the dominant one among the three. I can't wait to find out its sex. I think Im gonna be playing the waiting game for awhile. Anyone want to place bets when they'll show?

The 3rd plant shown is the first one to break the surface and is a lime-green color. The other two are a more normal shade of green that Im used to. Its interesting to see the difference in the color. One could easily mistake it for being mildly chlorotic, but its growth is outpacing the other two as you'll see in the pics. Its second set of leaves were 5 bladed, and the 3rd set were 7 bladed. Im hoping to see some 11 fingered leaves.

 

[pinkus]

I do know that I've have ruined another batch of weed by going too far when I used a 10/14 cycle. I'd stay around 11 to 11.5 for Sativas.

IME 11 or 11.5 work the best...but I also run other hybrids concurrently with a higher % of indica and they handle these hours with no problems (that I've seen) as well.

 

[soopy]

Little ones look great Dave! I hope you get to enjoy their fruits...

 

[Rinse]

Anyone here try warlock from early 2000s? Got a clone only that sends me soaring hard. Bright lights and cartoon vision. Happy euphoria. Feeling of unfamiliarity in a very familiar setting. Classic head stone. Intense is a good description of the buzz. Really sativa tho im really surprised. Not sure what your exact definition is but would be a killer strain for your stable...

I have some "zamabindi" beans (warlock x zamal)

 

[sourpuss]

I have some "zamabindi" beans (warlock x zamal)

Nice have ypu ran them yet? Curious how the warlocks traits r passed In the offspring... but assume its hard to tell with sativa hybrids... got it crossed to a few different things. Gonna try a bx with the hybrids I got and see if a warl9ck like plant emerges.... fingers crossed.

 

[satva]

i also have a red haired mex. and a meao thai pheno out of destroyer to test that look promising.

Love to hear about the effects. <vbg>

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

Dave Coulier - Your plants are looking healthy. I'm a little surprised that they all don't look more like the skinny leaf yellowish one.

Here is a repost of a few pictures of the GNT x NHz x MM when it was a seedling long, long ago:

Mr. GT - Thanks for that link to Riddleme's thread. That has been very interesting to me.



Just wanted to give a bit of an update to the GNT x NHz x MM. It is finally starting to show hints, I hope, of it getting to the end of its lifecycle. It is on week 24 and I'm finding occasional fox-tails that have no white pistils, especially on the lower branches. Many of the ones still growing now have very slight tufts at the end. There are a few calyxes that have clustered up a bit into a crown for each fox-tail. The foxtails are also splaying a bit and branches are sagging. It could still be many weeks left, but I'm seeing a look.

Cheers,

ThaiBliss

 

[Shooters]

Just wanted to give a bit of an update to the GNT x NHz x MM. It is finally starting to show hints, I hope, of it getting to the end of its lifecycle. It is on week 24 and I'm finding occasional fox-tails that have no white pistils, especially on the lower branches. Many of the ones still growing now have very slight tufts at the end. There are a few calyxes that have clustered up a bit into a crown for each fox-tail. The foxtails are also splaying a bit and branches are sagging. It could still be many weeks left, but I'm seeing a look.

Cheers,

ThaiBliss

Thanks for updating us on that! I love reading this thread as it is going to help me in my own quest. My greenhouse has only so much room so it is important that only the really good strains get priority placement. One Lionheart took over half of it and crowded the zamaldelicas which were late to the game.

On the wet-side of WA State I also have to fight mold with the fall monsoons, so am trying to get a trippy uplifting sativa that will finish outdoors. The zamaldelica didn't survive even in the greenhouse, but they sure were a beautiful plant.

Zamaldelica #2

 

[ThaiBliss]

Nice looking Zamaldelica. Too bad about the mold. I'm hoping to finish those or something like those in a greenhouse down south near the Cali border. I'm hoping it might work due to the slightly better weather this far south.

I took some pictures of what I was writing about in my last post. Here is a foxtail with a very subtle tuft of calyxes at the tip:

Here is a lower bud starting to look ripe:

I now have hope this plant will finish before 30 weeks.


ThaiBliss

 

[Huesos]

30 weeks

ThaiBliss, I have a nevilles haze that is taking on that profile; not as extreme though, more like lambsbread. I'll throw out a pic soon.

I hope you are rewarded for your patience.

 

[Riddleme]

First, I want to thank ThaiBliss for posting in my thread ! I clicked this link in his sig this morning and could not stop reading. I actually called in to work and said I would be late. Tis wonderful to find like minded souls in search of that bliss from the past that we all remember so well.

I have been blessed with some great gentics that I have yet to grow out. I plan/hope for males so I can keep what I have alive and share someday. I was gifted some Dalat seeds from the 70's as well as Zamal that came from La Reunion in 79. I have Oaxacan that is supposed to be from the same seed stock that was used by Neville in his Haze (I trust the source). Also have Komaoni, famous for Charas (which I love) as well as several land race Indicas. I have also been gifted several old hybrids DJ's original Blueberry, SC91, Romberry and Romulan (seeds from Joe himself, again I trust the source). Folks have gifted me these beans because of the experiments I do and the things I have openly shared as a result, plus I openly share my strains for free and I have created a few keepers in the past several years.

I have been on this mission for years, to bring back the fire from the past and preserve it for the future. I just recently crossed my Colorado Thunderfuck to a Durban Poison clone I was gifted that has been goin around Colorado since the 90's. The 2nd clone of it growing now is crossed to 3 of my strains. I have learned with breeding in a small garden with limited plant counts that cousins produce fire, which is why I work new strains in the way I do.

I also smoke salads (showing my age lol) and males to decide my breeding runs.

Thai, I would love some of your Lambsbreath/bread someday as that is one I've been looking for !!!

I'll leave ya with a pic of the Dalat, tis growing outside in Cali from seeds gifted by the same source I got them from.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Riddleme,

Thanks for stopping by, and the good vibes. I'm grinning from ear to ear from it, and that really cool picture of Dalat. That is the first really good picture of that strain that I have seen. Sure is wild looking.

I have a feeling that you will find yourself with an old school Jamaican ganja one way or another sometime sooner than later. I do have friends in Colorado, and visit on occasion.


This subject is of special interest to me:
"I have Oaxacan that is supposed to be from the same seed stock that was used by Neville in his Haze"

As you have probably read, I believe the best weed I ever grew looked like a Oaxacan from a picture I have seen posted on ICMAG. I assumed it was the Mexican in the Acapulco x Colombian x Thai x South Indian that Haze is supposed to be made of, not an additional component that Neville may have introduced. I probably have it all wrong though, and I don't want to start any arguments over the real sources of Haze.

I hope you stop by with comments and pictures now and again on this thread. I'll certainly be keeping an eye on what experiments you are doing and posting in "The End of the Rainbow..." thread.

ThaiBliss