The Search for Trip Weed

[ThaiBliss]

Great smoke reports. Interesting about the combos.

When I have frenetic weed, I like smoking, then having a drink to relax. If I have a drink first, it doesn't have the same effect, and I just feel like I had 3x the alcohol. Maybe it's just some kind of ritualization effect. I leverage the alcohol first scenario if I'm feeling cheap, stingy with my alcohol budget, or don't want to be hung over the next day. LOL

 

[geneva_sativa]

^ yeah, I experience same with some energizing smokes in particular, and alcohol

 

[Bardo Eagle]

Alcohol first and than ganja can be for real the fucked up combo,the opposite is a more chill version an for me not so interesting,I don't like to kill my ganja high,last week I drink 3 glass of wine and 5 can of 33 cl beer, than I smoke a joint of albanian grass+ drysift/pollen of western genetics, 2 hit and I'm fucking gone, I become an ecsatic dancer zombie tripped out,dance like freaky monster in front people that I known the past four hour,I experience a sort of teleport movement, where I move myself but my consciousness remains in the dancehall, like a psy-zombie,was so fucked up that I risk to die of hyphotermia and lose smartphone, headphone that I loose and joint, in the moment I cry for the joint but not for the other things, yeah I'm sensible to stuff lol ^o^ I was high plus after effect for 12 hours,lucky me or fucky me??

 

[pinkus]

Alcohol is simply counterproductive IMO and E. But then I am an alcoholic who doesn't drink.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

Nevils x oaxaca, nevils x mm, og kush x (nh x oax)

 

[bigtacofarmer]

Under a 315 cmh

 

[bigtacofarmer]

Slightly better pic of the mulinimbly. I tossed a just rooted clone right into flower in a 1 gallon pot. She is bent over a 4ft stake.

 

[Zitz]

Alcohol first and than ganja can be for real the fucked up combo,the opposite is a more chill version an for me not so interesting,I don't like to kill my ganja high,last week I drink 3 glass of wine and 5 can of 33 cl beer, than I smoke a joint of albanian grass+ drysift/pollen of western genetics, 2 hit and I'm fucking gone, I become an ecsatic dancer zombie tripped out,dance like freaky monster in front people that I known the past four hour,I experience a sort of teleport movement, where I move myself but my consciousness remains in the dancehall, like a psy-zombie,was so fucked up that I risk to die of hyphotermia and lose smartphone, headphone that I loose and joint, in the moment I cry for the joint but not for the other things, yeah I'm sensible to stuff lol ^o^ I was high plus after effect for 12 hours,lucky me or fucky me??

LOL!
I don't drink (at the moment) but I agree it's better to drink before the smoke, takes the edge off "spiky" weed.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

LOL!
I don't drink (at the moment) but I agree it's better to drink before the smoke, takes the edge off "spiky" weed.

Once I noticed how much more I enjoy psychedelics with 0 alcohol in my system for months. I will likely never drink again. I miss stout a little.

 

[yesum]

I got the bright idea to combine the Highland Mexican x Michoacan for 4/20. Mixed a 4 hit bowl and lit up after a week dry. These were the 2 favorite plants I grew out of 10, the most trippy.

For the first 30 minutes I had what amounted to a acid trip. Not checking the clock just a guess. Was equivalent to acid when it is in the 'clear' stage, crystalline clarity. Hyper aware to the point of pain. Painfully aware, hehe.

I am currently on HM x BB-First Lady-Michoacan. Not as clear as the other one, more body and buzz. More comfortable I would say, if not more messed up. Mix and match I say.

The Colombian Gold x Michoacan was a bust. Messy high, seemed to cancel the other out in a way. Might have to stay within the same country for the mixes, hehe

 

[ThaiBliss]

Yesum,

Nice smoke report. Reminds me that I'm long overdue to test the HM x BB, among others.

I'm also overdue testing one of my Bangi Haze x Wicked Weed plants from last summer. I had plans to test last month, but I was not feeling well and I declined. Turns out, I had the FLU. I did get a report from a friend who shared it at a party. Here are some snippets of a conversation about the assessment:

"... Good, fun, energetic. Warm body sensation. No paranoia. Not psychedelic." Her friend who smoked some "was very happy, chatty, not tired. Her brother liked it as well. His face got bright red and he was laughing and making jokes." I asked my friend to recall which ones are trippy. "SAGE, Nanan Bouclou, and Bangi Haze..." are still the ones that stand out with regard to trippiness. Funny, I did not think Nanan Bouclou was trippy. I did think the quality of the high was excellent none the less. I was going to breed it once for many good characteristics, and then be done with it, at least until the next Nanan Bouclou plant I test.

I'm not disappointed with the Bangi Haze x Wicked Weed report given the fact that everyone reports it as being up and energetic. EVERYONE also comments about it's strength. One friend tells me that it gets him "fucked up". He says after 3 hours it calms down to where he "can handle it". It sounds to me that my insistence on quality of effect has paid off, and the fire popped out all on it's own. With luck, I'll be hitting it and Nanan Bouclou with SAGE x (Bangi Haze x Wicked Weed) pollen this fall. I'll keep throwing the trippy genes at my seed stock over, and over again.

ThaiBliss

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

It's a beautiful spring day. I thought I'd share a couple of pictures of the future for Wicked (trippy) Weed.

The SAGEification/SAGEfusion /SAGEjection (tripification) of the line begins with this beauty. This is SAGE x Bangi Wicked. If it is male, it will be crossed with Nanan Bouclou and Bangi Haze x Wicked Weed. Children from both those crosses will likely wind up being kissing cousins:

I've been throwing Thai or S.E. Asian crosses at the line since the early 80s. I finally got around to Kali Mist. Here is the Kali Mist x Bangi Wicked:

ThaiBliss to all...

 

[canna.ballistic]

Nanan Bouclou - This plant surprised the heck out of me. It was one of the 3 biggest plants. The surprise was how early it ripened, especially since it is supposed to have a significant amount of Cape Tribulation Australian weed in it. Cape Trib, a natural smuggling route due to it's proximity to Papua New Guinea, is likely influenced by genetics from Papua New Guinea. Very tropical. The other parent is described as Haitian indica. Haiti is a tropical island in the Caribbean. I would think it has some genetic influence from Jamiaca, Colombia or Mexico. It was the fourth plant to get harvested. The buds are small and airy. They didn't look airy on the plant, but they are shrinking up considerably and looking like old school ganja. The aroma is sweet, but with a earthy savory aroma, like basil. It is plastered with resin.

ThaiBliss

Like many here, I identified the Nanan Bouclou as an interesting variety a year or two ago. My opinion though is that I very much doubt the Cape Trib parent has any Papua New Guinea (PNG) genetics in it. I do believe the breeder has accurately relayed the story as he was told it, it is just that the Aboriginal fellow who gave him the seeds was probably spinning bit of a yarn.

Saying that, the Cape Trib plant probably has very good genetics ... it is most likely related to either the infamous Mullumbimby Madness or to Thai / Vietnamese SE Asian sativas. Your honour, I present the following evidence ...

The area within Cape Trib which has been settled / farmed includes the Daintree, which is a 100 km or so north of Cairns ... most of Cape Trib is to the north of Daintree, and is inaccessible dense rainforest / National Park. However, Daintree / Cairns / Kuranda is home to many hippies / travellers / adventurers / seekers who frequently visit or have visitors from the Mullumbimby / Nimbin / Lismore area. The premium weed from the Mullum area would have most definitely been brought up to Cape Trib and grown there as well.

In addition, there is an army base in Townsville, a couple of hundred kms south of Cairns. During the late 60s / early 70s, the soldiers returning from the Vietnam War would have brought back quality Thai and Vietnamese weed and seed into Australia through this base. The trauma of the Vietnam War sent many of the returned soldiers into the bush and communes in the Cairns area with their SE Asian varieties.

I was in both the Mullum area and the Cairns area in the late 80s. I knew some people who had been growers in Cape Trib since the mid 70s ... I never once heard any mention of anything from PNG. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but these guys already had access to very high quality weed ... Thai and Vietnamese in the 70s and Mullum Madness in the 80s.

The weed I smoked up in Cairns in the late 80s was the strongest I have ever smoked ... it was f***ing debilitating.

I had Thai sticks in the mid 80s ... it made me feel exhilarated and juiced, as if I was taking off on the Space Shuttle and flying through the clouds like superman ... a hyper-potent and hyper-active sensory overload which took your breathe away ... very special.

I also smoked numerous very potent varieties whilst in the Mullum area in the late 80s (I don't ever recall them being given specific names at that time, but I may have been too wasted and wasn't paying any attention). However, the common theme with the Mullum varieties was they produced an incredibly strong connection with the earth and the local environment and the people you were hanging out with ... it was like being in a magic feel-good fairyland with accentuated colours and sounds, but you were still capable of driving or bushwalking or swimming or surfing ... on reflection, these were probably the most favorite times in my life.

However ... that weed up in Cairns was f***ing debilitating ... not in a couchlock sense ... but in the sense you were so very very high, you had actually lost your body ... you could see your hands and feet, but they weren't connected to you anymore, and you couldn't make them move in the way you wanted them to. Your mind had warped into some astral plane of esoteric ether, and your poor body was left behind, alone and drooling in a dark corner of the material world until you came back hours later from a weird underworld adventure in a forgotten dimension of your psyche. There was absolutely no way you could drive ... half the time, you couldn't even walk to the f***ing car if you wanted to (and the other half you could no longer remember what a car actually was !!). This pot was being grown up in Cape Trib (there was also another growing area on the tablelands inland from Cairns), and its ancestry was Mullum and SE Asia.

... and so back to the Cape Trib parent of Nanan Bouclou ... yes, it is possible it is from PNG, but it is probably unlikely. My money is on it being a direct progeny of the varieties which have been grown in the Daintree area of Cape Trib for years ... and if so, it is potentially going to be as potent as anything you have ever smoked.

... ahh, memory lane ... it is a shame there are not enough brain cells left to remember all the wonderful things from years ago !!

... and note to self ... remember to order some of that Nanan Bouclou !!

 

[Lesnah]

@ canna ^

I agree, it's either southeast asian originally....like Karen Landrace which is also said to carry a guava scent and leaf shape looks very similar....or it's Indian Narrow Leaf ganjah derivation similar to whatever grew in the hunter valley area of Australia.

Again, nothing is confirmed obviously we're just taking educated guesses. But this is why i prefer to Call it Cape Tribulation Sativa as opposed to PNG Red.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Canna.ballistic and Lesnah,

Thanks so much for your posts. I'm fascinated. From your input, I'd say that the reputation of Nanan Bouclou is enhanced. I bought two packs of these and I've only sprouted a few seeds. I will definitely continue to explore these genetics. I'll also try to let it ripen a bit more in the hopes that I could get a better expression of the high.

That being said, I have grown Gypsy Thai x Mullumbimby Madness x Neville's Haze and it looked nothing like either of Nanan Bouclou plants I had. I was unsuccessful in getting anything good from the Gypsy Mullum Neville's cross. I grew it indoors and flowered it far too long, I believe. I let it flower for 9 months. LOL! I wish I had harvested at 7 months. However, after a long cure it smelled more like Thai Stick than anything I have ever grown, except for my one successful grow of loose pack and seeded Thai from the last time I ever had the pleasure of acquiring that stupendous and exhilarating ganja. I plan on sprouting one or two more of Gypsy Mullum Neville's and crossing it with something earlier but with a cerebral high. I will not ruin it with any couch-lock or narcotic crap. My theory is that I will be able to grow it better for a reasonable test after making the cross.

I'm curious as to your opinion of Papua New Guinea genetics in comparison to Cape Tribulation genetics. I acquired some seeds reportedly from the Eastern Highlands of Papua New Guinea.

Thanks again for your input.

ThaiBliss

 

[beanz]

hay easy on the couch lock narcotic crap .....we have children around here .

I,m not sure the weed was so much better 20 years ago , is it more the fact our receptors were firing so much better with our youthfulness .

engines wear out over time , the brain would be much the same yeah? ( referring too the aussie recollections )

there,s defiantly some nice sativa pheno,s too be found , I was sniffing an extremely loud nevil haze this morning for its stage of maturity ...might be something nice on the way . I know its sounds pretty generic compared to asian dish though lol

just thought I,d join in

 

[Donald Mallard]

hay easy on the couch lock narcotic crap .....we have children around here .

I,m not sure the weed was so much better 20 years ago , is it more the fact our receptors were firing so much better with our youthfulness .

engines wear out over time , the brain would be much the same yeah? ( referring too the aussie recollections )

there,s defiantly some nice sativa pheno,s too be found , I was sniffing an extremely loud nevil haze this morning for its stage of maturity ...might be something nice on the way . I know its sounds pretty generic compared to a again dish though lol

just thought I,d join in

It was certainly stronger than what we have today , which seems a bit washed out in comparison ,
ive mentioned this a few times ,
but folks tend to think older people are lost and forgotten whats going on ...
its nice to know i remember it as others also do ...

i think png seed did get there canna , just a bit later ,
when they were trading guns for weed ,

i remember thai , and indian weed ,
friends used to go to india and bring back seeds regularly ..

I wasnt sure i believed the story about png seed from cape trib either , especially via the source it came ,
but anything is possible ....

 

[beanz]

It was certainly stronger than what we have today , which seems a bit washed out in comparison ,
ive mentioned this a few times ,
but folks tend to think older people are lost and forgotten whats going on ...
its nice to know i remember it as others also do ...

i think png seed did get there canna , just a bit later ,
when they were trading guns for weed ,

i remember thai , and indian weed ,
friends used to go to india and bring back seeds regularly ..

I wasnt sure i believed the story about png seed from cape trib either , especially via the source it came ,
but anything is possible ....

everyone seems to retain there nice memories , and then amplifying them too ..
I,m not saying it was,nt good back then ,I,m saying its not as that bad now you ask a younger smokers how sledged they got last night on something
there getting bent out shape telling stories too how tripped out they got of some stuff they smoked .
in 20 years they will be talking how weed isn't as good either lol

I run on logic thats all , thats what it tells me

I,m just playing devils advocate anyway , I grow a large variety of all sorts stuff and enjoy it all ......loving sativa,s at the moment

zamal x jamican lambread ....from mustafunk ...she,s getting heavy spears now

haze 27 x Jamaican lamb bread

 

[hard rain]

hay easy on the couch lock narcotic crap .....we have children around here .

I,m not sure the weed was so much better 20 years ago , is it more the fact our receptors were firing so much better with our youthfulness .

engines wear out over time , the brain would be much the same yeah? ( referring too the aussie recollections )

there,s defiantly some nice sativa pheno,s too be found , I was sniffing an extremely loud nevil haze this morning for its stage of maturity ...might be something nice on the way . I know its sounds pretty generic compared to a again dish though lol

just thought I,d join in

No, it was better, maybe not 20 years ago but 30+ years it was.

I visited Laos a few years ago and experienced a high I hadn't felt since the early 80's. Very much like the old thai stick. Some of those old genetics are still around. I remember thinking after all the money I've spent on seeds, here in an Asian jungle is my holy grail high. Anyway it definitely proved that my memories of the old highs was good and I wasn't just glorifying the past.

I think a lot of modern breeding has not been good to our plant, especially for those of us that chase the sativa type high.

They talk about the entourage effect. I think I am after the opposite.

Have to agree with cannaballistic regarding the PNG. I really like Nanan Bouclou but doubt it's necessarily PNG. Could be anything.

As usual, Beanz pics has me salivating again. Wonderful work.

 

[Donald Mallard]

everyone seems to retain there nice memories , and then amplifying them too ..
I,m not saying it was,nt good back then ,I,m saying its not as that bad now you ask a younger smokers how sledged they got last night on something
there getting bent out shape telling stories too how tripped out they got of some stuff they smoked .
in 20 years they will be talking how weed isn't as good either lol

I run on logic thats all , thats what it tells me

I,m just playing devils advocate anyway , I grow a large variety of all sorts stuff and enjoy it all ......loving sativa,s at the moment

zamal x jamican lambread ....from mustafunk ...she,s getting heavy spears now
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haze 27 x Jamaican lamb bread
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i have no argument there is potent weed around ,
and no doubt you grow good weed too ,
but its not really the same man ,

im pretty sure the amount of folks like myself , hard rain , canna , sam ,thai bliss etc , we couldnt all be wrong surely ??

granted its difficult to find what was grown yesteryear ,
but that doesnt make it fantasy .....

either that , or threads like this are a waste of time??