The Search for Trip Weed

[Gert Lush]

Hey! Been away for a bit but nice to get back just in time to see the Nanan Bouclou done.
Last I saw you'd only just acquired the seeds.

Sounds very interesting, though your descriptions keep suggesting the Haitian rather than the PNG side to me. Really looking forward to the smoke report.

I'll read back and see if you say how you grew it. Outdoors, I assume.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hey Gert Lush,

Good to hear from you. I hope all has been well with you.

Here are a couple of pictures of the two phenos I have seen. This year outdoors:

A couple of years ago indoors:

Nanan Bouclou on the left:

Nanan Bouclou is supposed to have Papua New Guinea Red in it. If I recall correctly, you had something with Papua New Guinea Gold in it. Could you post some pictures here of it?

Thanks,

ThaiBliss

 

[Lesnah]

ThaiB, the more i read your posts about the NB the more i'm convinced you have a 50/50 blend of the genetics showcasing in that specimen.

The aromas you describe, sounds very much like the Cape Trib. side of the genepool. Peppery/Guava pine needles is what i remember from the Cape Trib after a month of jar curing. Basil is still present in both the Haitian and Cape Trib phenos...seems to dissipate the longer one cures the bud gets fancier and fancier.

The Haitian side indeed has thicker and higher # of leaflets. One Time i grew the Haitian pheno 12/12 from seed, by the 7-8 month of life I counted 11 fingers on the top set of leaves. I smoked Idiit's Haitian specimen once, at first it smelled like Old School Reggie/Arizona as we used to call it in NY. After jar curing for 2 weeks...that general grassy marijuana smell turned into a lovely Pot Pouri/perfumey /flowery smell. Inhaling was metallic, exhaled smoke smells of sweet lavender, straight caffeine weed.

The Haitian plant i grew, cured to a White Sage/Lavender smell. Very different from the usual cannabis aromas. Smoked similar to Idiit's buds too

Your plant has the aromas/chemotype of the Haitian but structure of the Cape Trib. in my opinion.

 

[LowFalutin]

...
... I've been wondering how I'm going to integrate that late ripening SAGE plant into Wicked Weed without losing the piney / turpentine aroma.
...
ThaiBliss

the HOG really leans heavily in the aroma department
in gloomslayer. wrote this in post #217 in that thread...
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8095763&postcount=217

the quote, which was an edit...
"EDIT: just finished adjusting both gloomslayer cuts' buds for improved
air/light circulation, and now my fingers smell heavily of turpentine.
doesn't smell healthy!
no sweetness at all, just woody solvent astringence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turpentine "

...and from the wiki link above, "Turpentine is composed of terpenes,
mainly the monoterpenes alpha-pinene and beta-pinene with lesser
amounts of carene, camphene, dipentene, and terpinolene."


more of that smell coming... bshw and SAGE F2s getting flipped tonight.

cheers

 

[ThaiBliss]

Low - That's good news. I consider those piney, turpentine, woody, cedar aromas as a positive effect on the high.

 

[LowFalutin]

Low - That's good news. I consider those piney, turpentine, woody, cedar aromas as a positive effect on the high.

T- what are the aromas in your kali mist?
dubi's kaliChina occasionally throws phenos that smell like
spicy-piney menthol (reminds me of xmas for some reason),
which i don't think come from the yunnan. do you get any of
that in your KM?
i'm hitting my congo3xkaliChina female with gOThaze* pollen,
in hopes of finding some off-spring with those aromas,
but with more decidedly sativa effects.

*purple OThaze would have been the better pollen for the desired
off-spring target aromas, but i'm a bigger fan of the green haze effect,
so i'll have to dig a little harder to find the spicy-piney menthol.
also looking forward to the woodyCongolese x greenHaze offspring.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Low - I have a small amount of seeds on that Kali Mist plant out in my greenhouse. I'm letting it go as long as I can to make sure the seeds are well ripened. As an aside, they survived a low of 26 degrees outside protected only by the film of my greenhouse without any supplemental heating. I don't want to handle them roughly in any way to get a good sniff of the terpenes in the resins. I don't want to lose even one seed to mishandling. That being said, the aroma that I can get off of a stem is a tangy citric with something else that I can't place. As I was recently reminded by the wildly different aromas from the Nanan Bouclou in just 3 weeks after harvest, my take on Kali Mist could change drastically. I'll give a report when I crush up the dry bud to collect the seeds.

From my past experience with Thai Sticks, I'd look for a citric rind type of aroma when looking through S.E. Asian crosses. I remember them also being a bit spicy. I'd love to go back in time and experience them again and see if that bitter/spicy/peppery aromas I remember were also due to pinene. One other thing I do remember that was distinctive about them. They had this unique aroma that is hard to describe. I think the best description of it is a metal shop aroma. They had a metallic feel to them. I have a mouthful of cavities with silver fillings. My teeth would buzz when I smoked Thai Stick, like they were falling asleep from Novocain, or the feeling of hitting one's funny bone. Then again, my whole nervous system would buzz with an electric eel feeling. Haha. For some reason, I link that metallic aroma with those effects.

If I were you, I'd stick with the Green Haze. It is all about the effect one likes. I describe the aromas because it is interesting to my palate, and I'm thinking that terpenes do affect the high. I'm always re-running the experiments. LOL. Smoking it and feeling the results of the high is the final say. I do have a caveat. I want to be able grow something that can ripen outdoors in this climate. I believe that we can have the best of both worlds, so I'm mixing the best of the early ripening plants with the ones that are best overall in the high.

ThaiBliss

 

[horsemen97]

nice gardens bros. RESPECT

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

From my seed plants, the first to be harvested was Goo. I just checked to see if the buds were dry enough to extract the seeds. They are close. Here's the terpene report.

Grape bubblegum is still the dominant aroma. There is also some hashy weediness to it. This is not anywhere as interesting as Nanan Bouclou, but it matches my memory of this strain. My memory also tells me that this stuff is potent with a good high, so we'll see.

ThaiBliss

 

[Buckeyebandit]

Interesting up in here thai.mind if I pull up a chair

 

[ThaiBliss]

Welcome Buckeyebandit.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

I was processing Miss Universe buds today, and they still smell strongly of banana. In addition, I can also smell a very distinct lemon aroma. There is also something else that is faint and hard to put my finger on. It smells weedy, sharp, and bitter.

The buds look very delicate, light, and airy. They are also resinous. Here are some pictures:

ThaiBliss

 

[SierraPadre]

Hey ThaiBliss....figured I'd throw out a recent anecdote. My friend and I went camping in Colorado. He has a high tolerance and mine is very low. I bought several high CBD strains and preferred Harley-Tsu which was approximately 2:1 CBD to THC. The last day of the trip I smoked my weed all day which allowed me to smoke high quantities of strong THC strains. By around 9pm I experienced being in the back of a large pasture surrounded by people at a bonfire. This was so real that I have to believe it was delirium because during all the times I have tripped I never lost sight of the fact that what I was experiencing was not real. Trip weed may be weed that pushes our established tolerance beyond but not too beyond. Of course, the strain needs to possess a certain electric energy.

 

[nepalnt21]

had cindy 99 for the first time, and although some people say that it is mostly like an indica, i find it to be a floaty, cerebral sativa with potential for trippiness. very spacey, dreamy, with good vibes.

 

[pinkus]

Those miss universe buds remind me of old time Columbian Gold. It's the size and leaf like calyxes.

Enjoy the ship out of it.

 

[ThaiBliss]

had cindy 99 for the first time, and although some people say that it is mostly like an indica, i find it to be a floaty, cerebral sativa with potential for trippiness. very spacey, dreamy, with good vibes.

Miss Universe has C99 in it. I only talk up the Kali Mist in it for various reasons including a Pineapple cut I tried once that is supposed to be a C99 selection that I thought was a dud.

Those miss universe buds remind me of old time Columbian Gold. It's the size and leaf like calyxes.
Enjoy the ship out of it.

I should test soon.

Nice to hear from you Pinkus. Yes, the calyxes are very long. I have a Thai x (Col. Gold x C99) out in the greenhouse, and it also has very long calyxes. It looks very similar in that way. Small wispy buds also, even more so.

I'm worried about the seed plants. The Miss Universe seed bud did not succeed. There are white baby seeds that never developed. I read a post recently about other peoples plants that did not develop due to lower fall time temperatures. We'll see.

Win some, lose some.

ThaiBliss

 

[XRupert]

Nanan Bouclou

Nanan Bouclou

Hi ThaiBliss,


Reading your quotes about NB made me think of the meaning of that name, if it got some Haitian in it :-D


In kids/infants talk in French/Creole, nanan means candy.
And Bouclou might means,«beaucoup» -> a lot.


So, a lot of candies !! :-D

 

[ThaiBliss]

Hi ThaiBliss,

Reading your quotes about NB made me think of the meaning of that name, if it got some Haitian in it :-D

In kids/infants talk in French/Creole, nanan means candy.
And Bouclou might means,«beaucoup» -> a lot.

So, a lot of candies !! :-D

Here is what I found from the Wiccan Bible:
African Creator of the gods from what is now eastern Senegal. Upon his migration to the Caribbean, became a Haitian Voodoo deity of plant life and the natural medicines made from plants.

 

[herbgreen]

Hey ThaiBliss....figured I'd throw out a recent anecdote. My friend and I went camping in Colorado. He has a high tolerance and mine is very low. I bought several high CBD strains and preferred Harley-Tsu which was approximately 2:1 CBD to THC. The last day of the trip I smoked my weed all day which allowed me to smoke high quantities of strong THC strains. By around 9pm I experienced being in the back of a large pasture surrounded by people at a bonfire. This was so real that I have to believe it was delirium because during all the times I have tripped I never lost sight of the fact that what I was experiencing was not real. Trip weed may be weed that pushes our established tolerance beyond but not too beyond. Of course, the strain needs to possess a certain electric energy.

Are sure your friend didnt sprinkle a little DMT on the bowl?

What sort of variety of weed did you smoke???

 

[SierraPadre]

Are sure your friend didnt sprinkle a little DMT on the bowl?

What sort of variety of weed did you smoke???

I wish I could say some exotic drug was added. LOL It was Rug Burn OG, Sour Diesel, Blueberry and three other strains I cannot recall. I simply blew past my tolerance which for years has been based on two or three one-hitters. It was like some comedy of errors episode a la Maureen Dowd overdosing on edibles. I really think a trippy high is the phase before delirium. I wasn't really scared and woke up in my tent six hours later at baseline.