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The Search for Trip Weed
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niiice late fall colors........clean crystal.......will be a treat in a few........
ganj on.......
ganj on.......
If they ever invent the cannabis fax machine ThaiBliss is going to need a room full of employees taking orders!
+1
great idea for a photo series, Thai.
central/south american sativa
genetics showing their colors.
gloomslayer re-veg...
NevillesHaze x [JohnnyBlazeF2 x (greenHazexThaiF3)]
...looks to finish around the same time as yours.
she's ~ 10wks of 11/13 now...
...and i'm beginning to notice rose and childrens aspirin aromas.
still waiting for the green oldtimers haze to "man up",
after 3wks of 11/13, before flipping the bshw (and sage F2s).
cheers
Wow lovely colors never seen a Sage turn that color. For me it's shown yellows, red, and greens.
Yes, I've seen this cutting more red-like, and also black (very deeply purple). Seems to depend on temperature.
Greetings,
I spent the evening cutting buds off the main stems of Nanan Bouclou. As I lay my head down on my pillow trying to sleep, I keep smelling the hash that built up on my fingers and I am haunted by the aroma. I can't sleep so I am inspired to describe what I'm observing from this plant in this thread.
This plant has been hanging for a few weeks, and is now dry enough to cut up and put it in a tote. The buds shrunk up a bit but are much more dense than I originally judged. They are heavy for their size due to the thick layer of trichomes. The branches of the plant are long with large expanses of budless stalk, but the ends are stacked up. The tote got filled up faster and fuller than I had expected.
The aromas are incredible off this plant. They have changed dramatically in the last few weeks. At harvest, the sweet aroma of fresh resin was so dominant. I could barely detect the basil smell that was present throughout its lifecycle. The first new aroma that hit me was menthol, which I had not detected before. It seems all my keeper plants have menthol. I'm not sure if it the effect from it that makes it what I prefer, or the methods I use to grow bring it out. As I rub my fingers together roughly to remove the hash, I notice that it is not a pure menthol. I would say it is equal parts menthol and pinesol. It's not turpentine like I get from SAGE. It is just like the pinsol cleaning product. Since SAGE, I have a strong attraction to anything with pinene in it, so I'm happy to detect this.
The other aromas include the previously mentioned basil. There is now something distinctly spicy, like pepper and pine. Along with all these aromas, there is some left over sweet aroma. Now it is more like a touch of honey.
There is one last aroma to describe. I was thinking about it for a while. It is something I've smelled before. It is not pleasant. In fact, it makes me gag a bit. As I was trying to think about where I smelled this before, it finally hit me. I once grew some poppies. I decided to collect the sap. I tried smoking it, and I did not feel anything. I decided to swallow some. Big mistake! I felt something then. Unfortunately, I did not enjoy it much. All I could do is lay on my side and have these dreams. They were strange dreams. It was like I would be having a dream, and then suddenly, a dream (nightmares really) within a dream would bubble up. If I tried to get up off the couch, I would hurl. Not just throw up a little, no. It was more like Linda Blair. I was hurling with great force major amounts of disgusting liquid. I would lay back down and I would be fine, but if I tried to move, I would hurl again. It was no fun at all. LOL Yes, that final aroma is the aroma of raw opium. I know it all too well.
Later this week I will be cutting up the Miss Universe plant. This was the one smelling like lemon candy and vanilla. As it got mature, the vanilla aroma was more and more like banana. The smell is morphing now. I'll write it up later, after I have run my fingers through it for hours while doing the boring task of cutting, trimming, and curing.
ThaiBliss
I spent the evening cutting buds off the main stems of Nanan Bouclou. As I lay my head down on my pillow trying to sleep, I keep smelling the hash that built up on my fingers and I am haunted by the aroma. I can't sleep so I am inspired to describe what I'm observing from this plant in this thread.
This plant has been hanging for a few weeks, and is now dry enough to cut up and put it in a tote. The buds shrunk up a bit but are much more dense than I originally judged. They are heavy for their size due to the thick layer of trichomes. The branches of the plant are long with large expanses of budless stalk, but the ends are stacked up. The tote got filled up faster and fuller than I had expected.
The aromas are incredible off this plant. They have changed dramatically in the last few weeks. At harvest, the sweet aroma of fresh resin was so dominant. I could barely detect the basil smell that was present throughout its lifecycle. The first new aroma that hit me was menthol, which I had not detected before. It seems all my keeper plants have menthol. I'm not sure if it the effect from it that makes it what I prefer, or the methods I use to grow bring it out. As I rub my fingers together roughly to remove the hash, I notice that it is not a pure menthol. I would say it is equal parts menthol and pinesol. It's not turpentine like I get from SAGE. It is just like the pinsol cleaning product. Since SAGE, I have a strong attraction to anything with pinene in it, so I'm happy to detect this.
The other aromas include the previously mentioned basil. There is now something distinctly spicy, like pepper and pine. Along with all these aromas, there is some left over sweet aroma. Now it is more like a touch of honey.
There is one last aroma to describe. I was thinking about it for a while. It is something I've smelled before. It is not pleasant. In fact, it makes me gag a bit. As I was trying to think about where I smelled this before, it finally hit me. I once grew some poppies. I decided to collect the sap. I tried smoking it, and I did not feel anything. I decided to swallow some. Big mistake! I felt something then. Unfortunately, I did not enjoy it much. All I could do is lay on my side and have these dreams. They were strange dreams. It was like I would be having a dream, and then suddenly, a dream (nightmares really) within a dream would bubble up. If I tried to get up off the couch, I would hurl. Not just throw up a little, no. It was more like Linda Blair. I was hurling with great force major amounts of disgusting liquid. I would lay back down and I would be fine, but if I tried to move, I would hurl again. It was no fun at all. LOL Yes, that final aroma is the aroma of raw opium. I know it all too well.
Later this week I will be cutting up the Miss Universe plant. This was the one smelling like lemon candy and vanilla. As it got mature, the vanilla aroma was more and more like banana. The smell is morphing now. I'll write it up later, after I have run my fingers through it for hours while doing the boring task of cutting, trimming, and curing.
ThaiBliss
I smoked another individual from the seed pack that I grew indoors. It was nothing like this pheno. It was fruity and lemon grass flavored. I culled it. It was not strong in what we see as common effects today, but it had some spooky old school effects. It was time warping and rushy. I had a light buzz, but I was thrown for a loop in a moment of whoa! It buckled my knees in a certain way. I have not smoked a bud from this plant yet. I was told by another grower of this strain that it really shined outdoors in bright light, with big differences between exposed top buds and lower buds that had shade thrown on it.
I woke this morning and was struck by how spicy the aroma is.
I woke this morning and was struck by how spicy the aroma is.
Great descriptions. You're making the Nanan Bouclou sound more and more interesting.
Opium poppies contain dozens if not hundreds of chemicals with different effects. And their are probably hundreds if not thousands of cultivars that contain any number of different combinations of these alkaloids.
When dealing with raw opium you have no idea what combination you are going to get unless the poppies have been tested. There's also no way to know what the dosage of each of these drugs will be. A low dose from one cultivar could be toxic to lethal from another.
Some of these drugs cause terrible vomiting, convulsions, delirium, constipation. Many people that take opium expect nepenthe but often the result is the opposite. And there's other alkaloids that are cough suppressants, cause deep peaceful sleep, remove pain, fix or cause erectile dysfunction, relax muscles, loss of appetite, I could go on and on.
Drugs in their natural form are like this, you get the good with the bad. It takes a lifetime to learn the use of natural medicines. Now we have labs that can easily extract these chemicals in their pure forms. I guess we still get the good with the bad from saving lives to destroying them.
Twenty years ago I was given poppy seeds, they still volunteer in my garden every couple years. Had the opium I collected tested in a lab it did not contain morphine related narcotic type alkaloids. It contained papaverine. A vasodilator with mild muscle relaxant type effects. Didn't do much but after a hard day's work it seemed to relax aching muscles. Pretty flowers though. I guess the lesson is opium poppies aren't something to mess with casually.
Opium poppies contain dozens if not hundreds of chemicals with different effects. And their are probably hundreds if not thousands of cultivars that contain any number of different combinations of these alkaloids.
When dealing with raw opium you have no idea what combination you are going to get unless the poppies have been tested. There's also no way to know what the dosage of each of these drugs will be. A low dose from one cultivar could be toxic to lethal from another.
Some of these drugs cause terrible vomiting, convulsions, delirium, constipation. Many people that take opium expect nepenthe but often the result is the opposite. And there's other alkaloids that are cough suppressants, cause deep peaceful sleep, remove pain, fix or cause erectile dysfunction, relax muscles, loss of appetite, I could go on and on.
Drugs in their natural form are like this, you get the good with the bad. It takes a lifetime to learn the use of natural medicines. Now we have labs that can easily extract these chemicals in their pure forms. I guess we still get the good with the bad from saving lives to destroying them.
Twenty years ago I was given poppy seeds, they still volunteer in my garden every couple years. Had the opium I collected tested in a lab it did not contain morphine related narcotic type alkaloids. It contained papaverine. A vasodilator with mild muscle relaxant type effects. Didn't do much but after a hard day's work it seemed to relax aching muscles. Pretty flowers though. I guess the lesson is opium poppies aren't something to mess with casually.
Therevverend,
Thanks for your post. Between your information and my experience, perhaps we have dissuaded someone from making a bad decision. I cannot believe there was that much liquid in my entire body, much less my stomach. LOL! "...terrible vomiting" is right!
You are not scaring me away from a Nanan Bouclou sampling. Given the unusual aromas, I wonder if there are chemicals in there that don't exist in most other Cannabis strains. I'll sample cautiously.
T.B.
Thanks for your post. Between your information and my experience, perhaps we have dissuaded someone from making a bad decision. I cannot believe there was that much liquid in my entire body, much less my stomach. LOL! "...terrible vomiting" is right!
You are not scaring me away from a Nanan Bouclou sampling. Given the unusual aromas, I wonder if there are chemicals in there that don't exist in most other Cannabis strains. I'll sample cautiously.
T.B.
Hey ThaiBliss! I always enjoy your posts and seeing your gardens- some of my favorite stuff in IC. This year did not disappoint! great work. I was wondering if the Nanan Bouclou was from Southern Star? I was just seeing something about Chopper Read on another post and had me poking around and saw Nanan Bouclou there too...
Hi Onefinity,
Nanan Bouclou is from Southern Star from a couple years ago. Idiit talked me into buying a couple of packs. It wasn't hard to do since I was told it came from Cape Tribulation, just across the straight from Papua New Guinea. It is crossed with "Haitian indica" which I've never heard of, except for speculation that NY City Haze (frankincense), or whatever they call it, might have come from Haiti. If I got that Haze named wrong, my apologies BigHerb. It might be Uptown Haze.
The one I grew indoors looked indica. I considered it a dud, but the mild yet stunning spooky effects and the fact that the fat leaves had thirteen (13!!!!) leaflets intrigued me. It had been awhile since I'd seen a plant with 13 leaflets, and it was growing in a small pot, no less. Never in my life, that I can remember, had I seen an indica with super fat leaves having thirteen leaflets. This huge outdoor growing, sativa looking, Nanan Bouclou did not have any leaves with 13 leaflets. LOL.
I've been drooling over pictures of Chopper Read. That plant looks like an old school sativa. I've been reassured that I made the right choice when I read that the owner of Southern Star considers Nanan Bouclou his flagship strain.
I'm super excited about how early this Nanan Bouclou plant is, as well as the aroma. What a change in the aroma! I've been wondering how I'm going to integrate that late ripening SAGE plant into Wicked Weed without losing the piney / turpentine aroma. My SAGE genetics are only 50% pure now that I used a Bangi Haze x Wicked Weed male to make seeds. Both sides of that male cross do express menthol terpenes. Next step is to use Nanan Bouclou as my vehicle, if smoke tests confirm quality, to assure early outdoor ripening. If I don't find pinene expressions, I'll hit it again with Big Sur Holy Weed. Muhaha! Rules have changed that have forced me to be able to grow 10 mature plants at a time. Selection will be much more difficult and time consuming. Both SAGE and Nanan are super sweet during ripening, with pinene expressions after a cure. I've been talked into believing that terpenes have a significant affect on the high. I love the high of that SAGE, with it's distinctive piney/turpentine aroma.
Got to go to the coal mine,
ThaiBliss
Nanan Bouclou is from Southern Star from a couple years ago. Idiit talked me into buying a couple of packs. It wasn't hard to do since I was told it came from Cape Tribulation, just across the straight from Papua New Guinea. It is crossed with "Haitian indica" which I've never heard of, except for speculation that NY City Haze (frankincense), or whatever they call it, might have come from Haiti. If I got that Haze named wrong, my apologies BigHerb. It might be Uptown Haze.
The one I grew indoors looked indica. I considered it a dud, but the mild yet stunning spooky effects and the fact that the fat leaves had thirteen (13!!!!) leaflets intrigued me. It had been awhile since I'd seen a plant with 13 leaflets, and it was growing in a small pot, no less. Never in my life, that I can remember, had I seen an indica with super fat leaves having thirteen leaflets. This huge outdoor growing, sativa looking, Nanan Bouclou did not have any leaves with 13 leaflets. LOL.
I've been drooling over pictures of Chopper Read. That plant looks like an old school sativa. I've been reassured that I made the right choice when I read that the owner of Southern Star considers Nanan Bouclou his flagship strain.
I'm super excited about how early this Nanan Bouclou plant is, as well as the aroma. What a change in the aroma! I've been wondering how I'm going to integrate that late ripening SAGE plant into Wicked Weed without losing the piney / turpentine aroma. My SAGE genetics are only 50% pure now that I used a Bangi Haze x Wicked Weed male to make seeds. Both sides of that male cross do express menthol terpenes. Next step is to use Nanan Bouclou as my vehicle, if smoke tests confirm quality, to assure early outdoor ripening. If I don't find pinene expressions, I'll hit it again with Big Sur Holy Weed. Muhaha! Rules have changed that have forced me to be able to grow 10 mature plants at a time. Selection will be much more difficult and time consuming. Both SAGE and Nanan are super sweet during ripening, with pinene expressions after a cure. I've been talked into believing that terpenes have a significant affect on the high. I love the high of that SAGE, with it's distinctive piney/turpentine aroma.
Got to go to the coal mine,
ThaiBliss
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Hey thaibliss. You may have convinced me to get a pack of nanan bouclou. Its a shame idiit got banned. I had asked him quite a few questions about strains, and he was always helpful. If you are into it enough to post about it, and idiit was a fan, I just may need to get some.
