The Search for Trip Weed

[canna.ballistic]

I grew out one HMxBB, it's a nice plant to grow and potent weed of the 'relaxing sativa' persuasion, but it's not what I would call trip weed.

... interesting that you say that.

I haven't smoked any yet (and you obviously have), but many people in the HMxBB thread referred to the smoke as trippy, psychedelic, like a good mild mushroom ride, heightened awareness of colours and sounds. The consensus was also (as you similarly put it), that although it was potent, it was also an enjoyable smoke which was euphoric, creative and social. These were all qualities which greatly appealed to me and, hence, made me go on the hunt to buy some seeds from the other side of the world, and then put a couple of them in the ground.

I am assuming that 'trip weed' for you is more along the lines of ... white-knuckled hang-on for grim death whilst your psyche is shredded, your sensory perceptions are totally overwhelmed and disorientated, and there is a faint voice in the far background which can be dimly heard through the terror saying ... f*ck dude, I think you've overdone it this time, hope you can make it back !!

I did encounter weed like that a few times in the 80s ... overall it was heavy and dark, and presented a challenging few hours ... it sounds like the malawi, golden tiger and zameldelica of today can be like that.

Fortunately in the 90s I also stumbled across the trippy but euphoric type of weed ... it was much more enjoyable, and this is what I am hoping the HmxBB is like.

Personally I believe both experiences convey 'trip weed' ... it is just that with one you are connected and flowing with reality, and seeing it with new insight and clarity ... and with the other you are being fractured and tormented by it, and having to grapple on a moment by moment basis with the quicksand of imagery overwhelming your being (which although more difficult, can be just as rewarding if that is what you are seeking).

For me, this year, connection and flow are more important.

I hope we all find what we are looking for ... especially Bono ... because the last I heard, he still hadn't found what he's looking for !!

 

[#1cheesebuds]

The last time I got to grew some trip weed was my outdoor grow of 2013. what a summer that was because I grew around 9 super good bagseed strains.
I grew this bagseed flower that I ended up calling her The Grinch. 3 hits would make me trip really hard for around 30 minutes to an hour then the come down would be a regular high and last another hour or so. This one was loved all round by friends and family.


I thank that she would have grown much bigger buds if she could have gotten more sunlight. but still by far my favorite of all 9 bagseeds from that summer.
I tried to take clones right at the start of flowering cycle but non of them lived.

The last photo this is only 2 plants. this pic is from a few weeks before harvest.

 

[canna.ballistic]

Those are great looking buds, especially for an outdoor grow ... nice dense coating of big clean trichomes. Did they have any cover, or just good weather over the last few weeks ?

 

[Loc Dog]

The last time I got to grew some trip weed was my outdoor grow of 2013. what a summer that was because I grew around 9 super good bagseed strains.
I grew this bagseed flower that I ended up calling her The Grinch. 3 hits would make me trip really hard for around 30 minutes to an hour then the come down would be a regular high and last another hour or so. This one was loved all round by friends and family.


I thank that she would have grown much bigger buds if she could have gotten more sunlight. but still by far my favorite of all 9 bagseeds from that summer.
I tried to take clones right at the start of flowering cycle but non of them lived.

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The last photo this is only 2 plants. this pic is from a few weeks before harvest.
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Beautiful work!!!!

I have been vaping GG4 for years, and barely get off on it anymore. One harvest I took some crappy little under buds, that I missed when shaving the legs. Dried them out on cable box, and vaped that for a week. First real bud I vaped after break, did 3 hits, and had to go to bed.

Hope you do not mind me asking, but do you take a week or so break occasionally.

 

[earthwyrms]

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2 or more $8.50 each


you can maybe even just wrap it around the stalks too, and of course reuse on cups or some reusable small pots

 

[Donn]

Personally I believe both experiences convey 'trip weed' ... it is just that with one you are connected and flowing with reality, and seeing it with new insight and clarity ...

I'm happy to read this, because I have just been thinking more less along the same lines. I don't know about "trips" (I mean, I do, but that was LSD which I haven't had since the '70s), but for me the psychedelic aspect of cannabis is very real, even if it isn't as spectacular or ascetic.

I don't know if it can be like LSD, but I guess I'm working out something else, the natural ideal of cannabis as its own kind of psychedelic, and you have a nice way of describing that.

 

[Loc Dog]

I'm happy to read this, because I have just been thinking more less along the same lines. I don't know about "trips" (I mean, I do, but that was LSD which I haven't had since the '70s), but for me the psychedelic aspect of cannabis is very real, even if it isn't as spectacular or ascetic.

I don't know if it can be like LSD, but I guess I'm working out something else, the natural ideal of cannabis as its own kind of psychedelic, and you have a nice way of describing that.

To get a very heavy effect, I need to take a break for a week or so. The one way to trip from it, is edibles. Be very careful if you make edibles, test very small doses, and do not take more if you think you are not getting off. have heard way to many stories about people taking more than they wanted. I made cookies, that one had me tripping. Half was strong as hell, and a quarter was a good functional high. Had another batch that was twice as strong. That was just from sugar trim, made the right way -

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=287025

 

[Donn]

Sure, I've been bitten by that, ate too much. Long time ago. Not fun.

Seriously, I wouldn't mind dropping acid again if some came my way, but for me, a psychedelic cannabis experience does NOT need to replicate LSD. Each of these "psychedelic sacraments" have their own way. I currently use a vaporizer that's more convenient in various ways, but also like eating it. One day that particularly recall, I ate a couple of my chocolate drops, and went about my day, and after a while I came to the conclusion I could have eaten a little more. But towards the end of the day, I had to allow that I had just had a VERY good day. Psychedelic? Well, I think it depends on where I went with it, not the magnitude of mental disturbance but, like canna.ballistic observed above, "connected and flowing with reality, and seeing it with new insight and clarity." This particular stuff was like that - not racy and feels mild, but clear.

 

[MostlyMe]

... interesting that you say that.

I haven't smoked any yet (and you obviously have), but many people in the HMxBB thread referred to the smoke as trippy, psychedelic, like a good mild mushroom ride, heightened awareness of colours and sounds. The consensus was also (as you similarly put it), that although it was potent, it was also an enjoyable smoke which was euphoric, creative and social. These were all qualities which greatly appealed to me and, hence, made me go on the hunt to buy some seeds from the other side of the world, and then put a couple of them in the ground.

I also read the trippy reports and they appealed to me as well, although I do not need an incentive to grow a good Mexican Let me stress first though, that a single plant is never enough to fully judge a strain. That's why I mentioned it. But if it's creative and social you seek, you will not be disappointed if my plant was even in the slightest representative of the strain.

I am assuming that 'trip weed' for you is more along the lines of ... white-knuckled hang-on for grim death whilst your psyche is shredded, your sensory perceptions are totally overwhelmed and disorientated, and there is a faint voice in the far background which can be dimly heard through the terror saying ... f*ck dude, I think you've overdone it this time, hope you can make it back !!

Hit the nail on the head with that one, BUT there's a little more to it. For me the experience you describe is just the initial phase. What follows can be total bliss, euphoria, other planes of existence, and more stuff like that typically associated with stronger drugs. The very best trip weed actually comes in waves, cycling between survival mode and beauty.

I did encounter weed like that a few times in the 80s ... overall it was heavy and dark, and presented a challenging few hours ... it sounds like the malawi, golden tiger and zameldelica of today can be like that.

Fortunately in the 90s I also stumbled across the trippy but euphoric type of weed ... it was much more enjoyable, and this is what I am hoping the HmxBB is like.

Personally I believe both experiences convey 'trip weed' ... it is just that with one you are connected and flowing with reality, and seeing it with new insight and clarity ... and with the other you are being fractured and tormented by it, and having to grapple on a moment by moment basis with the quicksand of imagery overwhelming your being (which although more difficult, can be just as rewarding if that is what you are seeking).

For me, this year, connection and flow are more important.

I hope we all find what we are looking for ... especially Bono ... because the last I heard, he still hadn't found what he's looking for !!

Oh absolutely, there is no single definition of trip weed. I was just using TB's definition, which (as you can read many pages back in this thread) took quite some convincing before I understood and accepted (and later experienced) it I don't mind other definitions of trippiness at all, but for this thread's sake it should be clear what people are talking about.

I will note, however, that there is a risk folks start calling all out-of-the-ordinary characteristics of a high trippy.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Oh absolutely, there is no single definition of trip weed. I was just using TB's definition, which (as you can read many pages back in this thread) took quite some convincing before I understood and accepted (and later experienced) it I don't mind other definitions of trippiness at all, but for this thread's sake it should be clear what people are talking about.

I will note, however, that there is a risk folks start calling all out-of-the-ordinary characteristics of a high trippy.

My definition of trip weed is wide ranging. I am often making descriptions with the intent expanding the borders of the set. This has been because so many posters seem to compare it to taking acid, having hallucinations, and then opining that it is not possible with Cannabis. I have been just trying to explain that my threshold for what I consider trip weed is much different than most. For instance, I think Bangi Haze and SAGE are both on the border of what I consider trip weed. Those are keepers to me. Zamaldelica is solidly in the trip weed category, but the one I grew was not my preference, though I've read enough descriptions from posters that make me think I will find a definite keeper in that population. My original example, a very unique individual from Neville's Haze, was the trippiest of all and another like that or like Thai Stick is my grail. This may be the one I may have waxed on about my favorite type that I'm looking for, which may be what you are referring to.

I would like people to post about anything that qualifies as trip weed to them. As long as they are descriptive enough, then we can decide for ourselves which ones we would like to investigate further.

Thanks,

ThaiBliss

 

[Tangwena]

I agree with your statement I have found most strong plants available these days are extremely trippy if cured properly. But it might be just me I get tripped out very easily.
Tangwena

 

[ThaiBliss]

I agree with your statement I have found most strong plants available these days are extremely trippy if cured properly. But it might be just me I get tripped out very easily.
Tangwena

I think you are on to something with your curing methods. If anyone has not been following Tangwena's thread, "Malawi style cob cureing", you are missing out on something special. Two things have changed dramatically over the course of my lifetime. The first was the introduction and popularity of crossing hash plants with every other strain. The other was the change in the way buds are cured, or the lack of a cure. I consider both of these to be responsible for the decline of the availability of mind expanding/cerebral/trippy experiences from imbibing the sacred herb. Tangwena is doing fine work preserving the knowledge, and even bringing back the practice of a proper fermentation cure.


Keep up the good work brother Tangwena,

ThaiBliss

 

[MostlyMe]

My definition of trip weed is wide ranging. I am often making descriptions with the intent expanding the borders of the set. This has been because so many posters seem to compare it to taking acid, having hallucinations, and then opining that it is not possible with Cannabis. I have been just trying to explain that my threshold for what I consider trip weed is much different than most. For instance, I think Bangi Haze and SAGE are both on the border of what I consider trip weed. Those are keepers to me. Zamaldelica is solidly in the trip weed category, but the one I grew was not my preference, though I've read enough descriptions from posters that make me think I will find a definite keeper in that population. My original example, a very unique individual from Neville's Haze, was the trippiest of all and another like that or like Thai Stick is my grail. This may be the one I may have waxed on about my favorite type that I'm looking for, which may be what you are referring to.

I would like people to post about anything that qualifies as trip weed to them. As long as they are descriptive enough, then we can decide for ourselves which ones we would like to investigate further.

Thanks,

ThaiBliss

Alright, I was living in the past I guess. It would be nice if we could come up with a list of trippy qualities. For example, I noticed some strains impart a "familiarity" with your surroundings, as if everything is like it's supposed to be. Others can make it seem like everything's off somehow. Makes you examine the world.

Intense bliss would be another quality.

I agree with your statement I have found most strong plants available these days are extremely trippy if cured properly. But it might be just me I get tripped out very easily.
Tangwena

Any ideas on how to approximate your process using household items only? I don't want to invest in a vacuum machine and cobs are hard to find over here. What about wrapping tightly in saran?

 

[vinrusso]

Does anyone remember the Thai in 1969-1971 that was coated with white? It was sold as opiated Thai Sticks in Denver where I was living at the time.

It just about made a man nod...

That is the oldest "myth" in the book. Got some Thai sticks in Denver? Cool. As for opium laced Thai or any other kind of weed would #1 be impossible and #2 It would cost $$. Opium is not like butter,it doesn't spread. I have experience with it is why I'm posting this. If you were to put some raw black opium in a pipe, it wouldn't even smoke. when I smoked it they had a little metal round thing next to the hole that they got hot, and the opium would melt . Kind of like how glass pipes are used. You probably could put some in a pipe like that and heat the bottom. Thai was just better than everything else. They used to call it Mekong Delta, or Buddha stick. Putting honey oil would be possible, but when they already had the best, why lace it?

 

[Tangwena]

Thank you for the nice words Thai Bliss much respect for your abilities and thoughts.

Mostly Me, seeded over on my thread on cob making made a fantastic cured brick style compressed block of buds using a yogurt maker and a vacuum bag check out his work on page 118, you dont need to wrap the buds in anything, its just the traditional look I like to keep, but not needed to ferment them
Tangwena

 

[Elmer Bud]

G `day Vin

Same with opiated hash .

Although I have read about placing bundles of Thai Sticks above vats of opium being boiled in water . The condensation was collected and infused into Thai Sticks . The process was called early water or 1st water .
Don`t know if that`s more Urban Rumour or not .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Bob Green]

Madjag said "was sold as opiated Thai Stick" I don't see him claiming it was for certain.

 

[7Scorpions]

Dont forget the sherm....at one point this stuff was easily available in the brick weed days had a couple "trippy" experiences...tunnel vision is not a common side effect for sativa lol....

 

[ThaiBliss]

...Thai was just better than everything else. ...but when they already had the best, why lace it?

Word!

 

[ThaiBliss]

It would be nice if we could come up with a list of trippy qualities. For example, I noticed some strains impart a "familiarity" with your surroundings, as if everything is like it's supposed to be. Others can make it seem like everything's off somehow. Makes you examine the world.

Intense bliss would be another quality.

Not a bad idea. I'll add to your start. We can just keep copy and pasting to move it forward.

Feeling all is right in the world.
Intense Bliss
Makes the world feel alien and new
Enhanced sensory perceptions
Creative and/or profound thoughts or seemingly profound thoughts
Warped sense of time
Introspection
Out of body feeling
Seeing auras around living things
Noticing everyday things with fresh eyes
Enhanced Empathy
Loss of speed and distance judgement
Feeling at one with the universe
Thinking that you are not high, the suddenly realizing you are still high as f**k.
Positive vibe (Irie)

That is a start. Many are related, and maybe saying essentially the same thing in a different way. In other posts, I have quoted other descriptions to highlight that the way others have described it rings true to me. I wish I would have kept track of them all now. Some are on the first post or two of this thread. I remember a quote from Dubi. Something to the effect of "I felt lost wandering in a city I grew up in." I'll repost that page again, and consolidate at another time.

ThaiBliss