Hey, Thai, I threw a bean in with my other plants because I had heard it was good. Delahaze strain. Man, I think I had the Mango Haze pheno, because it smelled like mango's big time. It was also taller and slower than the description.But for a 11-12 week plant, I couldn't believe how good it was. I cured a couple of jars for 6 months, and it was as good as most sativa's. Mango Haze x Old California sativa dominant lemon skunk, but No skunk smell.
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The Search for Trip Weed
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Hey thai, I was hoping to find a report and some pics of your finished queen mother. Maybe I missed it but if not I'd love to hear your thoughts
Hi ValleyKush,
Sorry I can't help you. I gave a bunch of different starts to a friend on the condition that he keep any Queen Mothers that are female. He got a female, then gave it to another friend. Ugh! He did introduce me to his friend and I monitored it and took a cutting. However, the friend had some medical issues and I stopped visiting. It got harvested, but I did not see how ripe it was. Some buds were shared with me, but I was told by my friend that he is "pretty sure" that the buds came from the Queen Mother. Given that I don't know how it looked when harvested and the validity of the samples are not verifiable, I decided not to trust the samples and will test another time.
I have about 3 emergency backup seeds. It is likely that I will eventually test the cutting by breeding it to another strain and testing the children. I will use other African lines to breed it to.
Here is my current plan with African genetics. I love the clear and energetic chemotypes of Bangi Haze. The Bangi Haze cutting I have is early, but not very vigorous or well formed. I also have had trouble making pure Bangi Haze seeds. So, outbreeding is called for. I grew a few Ciskei females. One of them is extra lemony, very well formed, and much more vigorous than the others. I have already crossed the Bangi Haze I love with a particularly thin leaved Wicked Weed male that is lemony and does not have any noticeable myrcene aroma. I just planted a few of these seeds. If I find a male, I will use it to cross to the Ciskei.
I have not personally tested the Ciskei yet, but two patients have. The patient that loves and regularly smokes more indica/WLD leaning strains did not think it much different than most other samples, but less tasty. But the patient that likes more sativa/NLD strains, like I do, thinks that it is fairly clear and very energetic. He was not impressed at first, but after a brief cure it seems to have made a better impression.
Once the Bangi Haze cross pollinates the Ciskei, the seeds will be 25% Bangi Haze, but hopefully will still be clear and energetic. I will then be able to backcross to the original Bangi Haze and have a population of healthy seeds with good and early Bangi Haze traits. At one or more of these steps, I will make Queen Mother seeds and test them.
This is a lot of hot air to say that it will be a long time before I will get a good test of Queen Mother genetics, but I will be developing early ripening predominately African genetics.To summarize, the early stages will be something like this:
Bangi Haze x Wicked Weed = Bangi Wicked
Bangi Wicked x Ciskei = Early African
Bangi Haze x Early African = Early African BX
Early African BX x Queen Mother
Line breeding may be thrown in at any stage that particularly impresses.
Maybe I should have just said "no". LOL.
ThaiBliss
Genghis Kush
Active member
ThaiBliss,
Whats wicked weed?
Whats wicked weed?
Lol, sounds exactly like my situation last fall with the few qm I started. I also have some backup seeds and I just popped them so I'll know more in a few months.
TerraPretaGrown
Member
I know of 2 strains By Mandala seeds
8 miles high and Satori
8 Miles High
Type:
sativa-indica
Genetics:
Africa; North India
Cultivation:
indoor/outdoor/greenhouse
THC:
23%
High:
A sativa-dominant high; uplifting; alert & fiery-energetic; thought provoking; trippy visuals; creative.
Aroma:
A sweet-fruity melange of strawberry and melon; hash-candy; piney; minty.
Medical use:
Good potential against lethargy & depression; stimulates appetite.
Satori
HIGH TIMES "Strain of the Year" 2007
Type:
sativa-indica
Genetics:
Nepal
Cultivation:
indoor/outdoor/greenhouse
THC:
23-28%
High:
A clear, cerebral high and strong potency sets in quickly; it supports concentration & creativity; very inspiring and stimulating. Ideal for writers, artists, musicians, or other creative people. Recommended for experienced smokers and if you have a high THC tolerance. Persons not used to highly psychoactive sativas should be cautious with the dosage.
Aroma:
Spicy, fruity, pungent, earthy.
Medical use:
Satori shows her therapeutic potential in relieving depression and anxiety; relieves symptoms of sensory motor neurologic disorders such as restless leg syndrome (RLS). Overall excellent medical-grade marijuana for a variety of uses.
8 miles high and Satori
8 Miles High
Type:
sativa-indica
Genetics:
Africa; North India
Cultivation:
indoor/outdoor/greenhouse
THC:
23%
High:
A sativa-dominant high; uplifting; alert & fiery-energetic; thought provoking; trippy visuals; creative.
Aroma:
A sweet-fruity melange of strawberry and melon; hash-candy; piney; minty.
Medical use:
Good potential against lethargy & depression; stimulates appetite.
Satori
HIGH TIMES "Strain of the Year" 2007
Type:
sativa-indica
Genetics:
Nepal
Cultivation:
indoor/outdoor/greenhouse
THC:
23-28%
High:
A clear, cerebral high and strong potency sets in quickly; it supports concentration & creativity; very inspiring and stimulating. Ideal for writers, artists, musicians, or other creative people. Recommended for experienced smokers and if you have a high THC tolerance. Persons not used to highly psychoactive sativas should be cautious with the dosage.
Aroma:
Spicy, fruity, pungent, earthy.
Medical use:
Satori shows her therapeutic potential in relieving depression and anxiety; relieves symptoms of sensory motor neurologic disorders such as restless leg syndrome (RLS). Overall excellent medical-grade marijuana for a variety of uses.
smoking on satori indica dom last three evenings and am very impressed with it's power and psychoactivity. the indica dom is smoking (high effects) more towards cured golden tiger's heavy narcotic effects. the spear aka sativa (Nepalese) dom smokes more like a psychoactive zamal.
Hi Genghis,
Wicked Weed is my nickname for some seeds I've been pollen chucking for decades into one unbroken lineage. I have line bred these a few generations a few different times, then go back to outcrossing when I find something new that I like better. After an outcross, I often backcross to one of the siblings of the line so I don't go too far astray from what has been working in previous generations.
It has mostly worked well for me and the plants from this line are usually among the best I grow, except for one dark period. I sold out on quality of high and outcrossed to a very amazing tasting hash plant. The high was not bad, but the taste was simply phenomenal. It tasted like honey oil, and all my friends raved about it. I enjoyed peer admiration, but for me, the high took a distinct dip as the effects seemed to increase the pull of gravity, and kept me on the couch spacing out. I prefer highs that make my mind soar/reel and my body restless. I have outcrossed the Wicked Weed line a few times since, most recently to Trainwreck and Burmese, and I'm finally starting to find individuals that have the magic again. I had nearly given up on it, and was going to start from scratch.
My lesson from this was to always weigh the effect and potency of the high far above secondary considerations. Never compromise. Once you stray, it is a lot of work and patience to get back to were you were. It has taken more than a decade to feel good about this line again.
I am a big fan of S.E. Asian strains, particularly the old Thai Sticks I used to get. Most of my outcrosses to this Wicked Weed line have some Thai in their lineages. I keep searching for individuals that remind me of that Thai kind of cerebral/trippy/energetic experience, and cross them to this line.
To the best of my memory, these are most of the strains that I had found good individuals and outcrossed to. Ancestry from Oldest to Newest:
Purple Asian x Pigweed (Mex. x Indica)
X
Perky (Thai x Afghani)
X
Seeing God (unknown heritage)
...Some line breeding..., and named Wicked Weed
X
White Lights (White Widow x Northern Lights)
...Some line breeding...
X
(Wicked Weed x Western Winds (S.E. Asian x Indica))
X
Wicked Weed
X
Dank Dank (Purple Bud x Wicked Weed)
X
(Skunk#1 x Wicked Weed)
X
(Burmese x Wicked Weed)
X
Train Wreck (Thai x Afghani x Mexican)
...Some Line breeding...
There are pictures in my albums. There will be more soon. I found a very good individual two summers ago, and another amazing one last summer. The Burmese and Trainwreck genetic infusions seem to be recombining into something special now and then. I also found a male I want to test, so I made seeds of it by crossing to the good mother from two summers back, and also two other lines. If the children test well, I plan on making lots of seeds from the best mothers I've found from the last two summers and the best from this coming summer.
I'm excited about the prospects, and I am planting lots of seeds from this line for this summer's crop to select from. I hope the next generation will have more than half of the plants be top notch, instead of the 1 in 10 that I am now finding. The rest of the 9 in 10 are good enough to make others impressed, but I am honing in on that certain feel that I think is special. All are pungent and tasty enough to impress. Both Burmese and Trainwreck have amazing aromas, and the Burmese really beefs up the buds to "commercial" standards that make everyone happy. I'm trying to raise my level of breeding efforts from lucky pollen chucker to a more selective breeder by actually pretesting males before going forward with them.
ThaiBliss
Your insightful descriptions and the fact you seem to seek the same highs as I do makes this my favorite go to thread. Thanks dude. Mostly for choosing actual quality of smoke above yield or appearance. Second for sharing it so well.
Thanks for the good vibes. Much appreciated.
I thought I'd repost a few pictures of Wicked Weed since so many seeds are now in the ground, it's spring, well... the days are noticeably longer, I'm full of optimism, and I've become proud of my own work again, finally.
Here is the male I'm testing:
Here are some pictures of the females:
ThaiBliss
canna.ballistic
Active member
Epic and Inspirational Thread
Epic and Inspirational Thread
Thiabliss ... an epic and inspirational thread ... read it all the way through a number of months ago, and made a list of some of the amazing strains mentioned (although it will probably take me a decade to grow and try them all !!)
Here are photos of two of the strains I decided to grow this year ... two highland mexican x blueberry, and a 'Simply Irresistible (haze x sweet skunk) ... both from Chimera.
HMBB No1 - a couple of weeks into flower
HMBB No2 - started flowering a week ago
Simply Irresistible - 3 weeks into flower
Epic and Inspirational Thread
Thiabliss ... an epic and inspirational thread ... read it all the way through a number of months ago, and made a list of some of the amazing strains mentioned (although it will probably take me a decade to grow and try them all !!)
Here are photos of two of the strains I decided to grow this year ... two highland mexican x blueberry, and a 'Simply Irresistible (haze x sweet skunk) ... both from Chimera.
HMBB No1 - a couple of weeks into flower
HMBB No2 - started flowering a week ago
Simply Irresistible - 3 weeks into flower
I grew out one HMxBB, it's a nice plant to grow and potent weed of the 'relaxing sativa' persuasion, but it's not what I would call trip weed.
Zitz
Member
That pretty much summarizes my definition of a high quality Cannabis plant... especially the last phrase, the quality of the comedown and how the effect dilutes and takes you back to feeling sober without dizzyness or feeling numb or heavy.
I think the perfect amount of THC (not too much) and the right mix of terpenes contribute to that. Plus smoking gradually and wait to see how the effect evolves before smoking any more. Balance is everything.
This is one of the things that has been lost in many of the indoor hybrids - which usually give a big THC rush which results in a crash...Unlike the old sativa's which for the most part have a longer lasting high that fades away clean or in higher doses an "afterglow".
Mustafunk/Zitz - I strongly agree. Even the old school Colombians, which I consider narcotic in effect, did not that ass dragging hung over effect of hash plant and hash plant hybrids. Somehow, even the hash made from hash plants is superior in effect.
All:
I found a smoke report of Zamaldelica which Spugg referenced on the "Zamaldelica - The Search for Trip Weed" thread, which was the inspiration for this thread.
Here is Spugg's report:
Zamaldelica preliminary smoke report
At the end of week 10, I picked a small lower bud off of the Zamaldelica and tested it. I didn’t write about it at the time. Last week, at 11 wks of flowering, I picked another bud which I tested yesterday. This smoke report is about the second bud but draws comparisons to the earlier one.
For comparability, all reports are done the same way:
Tool: Arizer Solo vaporizer.
Amount of bud: a loosely packed glass pipe chamber of the vaporizer.
Setting: in the evening with a full belly.
Method of consumption: 5 deep draws, 30 minutes, then another 5 draws.
Smell: The living plant has a sweet floral smell with some funk in it that I can’t quite put my finger on. Dried over a week, this bud smells mostly like lemons with a hint of peppermint. When heated, however, the funky smell comes back and is more pronounced, also some hint of flowers appeares. It’s a weird smell, hard to describe – like some animal perhaps, though I’ve never smelt an animal quite like it. It’s not pleasant, but it vanishes after a few whiffs and gives way to a more traditional smell.
Taste: It tastes mostly the way it smells. The first draw gives you that unpleasant funk, but once that is gone, this bud has a very nice taste, a bit floral perhaps, and extremely smooth. No coughing. My wife who didn’t get the initial funk declared it the nicest tasting weed she’d ever had. She says she was able to draw deeper than she normally does because it was so smooth.
Effect: The effect starts almost immediately and then keeps growing for 45 minutes. It peaks for about two hours and then slowly wears off over the course of the ensuing 4 hours or so. It begins with a tingling in the lower legs (my wife felt it in her feet), then quickly spreads to the head. It’s a warm feeling of happiness. Colors become more intense, faces become slightly distorted, and after a while you see things “the wrong way” (don’t know how to explain that). It’s slightly “trippy”, I guess – not in any way like acid, but still.
At the peak, this is very strong weed. It’s so strong, in fact, that I decided to break from my routine and refrain from that second session of 5 tokes. Side effects are the usual dry mouth and eyes and a slight craving for food which however is easy to resist. No paranoia, no racing thoughts. No headache. It’s easy to fall asleep if you are tired anyway, but you can also do things and when you get up you feel like dancing on the way to the toilet. It makes you want to talk, but not obsessively. After the come down it leaves you with a happy afterglow. All in all, my wife and I agree it’s among the finest weed we’ve ever had, perhaps the best.
Comparing it to my sampling of the same plant one week earlier, the difference is enormous. That one was very strong and trippy too but also extremely racy and anxiety ridden. It was cold, yet somehow cool. I do now understand what people on this forum mean with the term “terrorific”. The later bud was much warmer and a much nicer smoke.
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Zamaldelica + Malawi soil grow with screw-in LEDs
Water curing badly cured buds
"Smoking ganja is not addictive, growing it is." I forgot who wrote something to that effect, perhaps Sam S., but I feel it. It has been almost a half year since I was flowering something or gearing up to flowering something. I know the pictures below will not impress anyone, but for me the sight of them is thrilling. It is the feeling of a beautiful spring day. It embodies optimism and hope of the future... What I'm talking about is just some tiny seedlings, and I'm gleefully posting pictures of them. LOL.
The weather here has been exceptionally wet and much too cold for any summer vegetation to do more than crawl forward as slow as molasses, even in my greenhouse. This is one of the rainiest winters in all the decades I have been living here. However, if we get a few warmer and sunnier days than normal strung together in a row, I'll be prepared for it.
I have planted:
Wicked Weed
Burmese
Miss Universe (Poly Hybrid with Mostly Kali Mist, a bit of C99 and Others)
Nanan Bouclou (Haitian and Cape Trib. Australian(PNG Red))
Bangi Haze x Wicked Weed (test of unusual male)
Fruity Pebbles x Wicked Weed (...male test)
Wicked Weed x Wicked Weed (...male test)
Unfortunately, Burmese has failed to sprout. I'm heartbroken about it. I was so thrilled to have these again because I consider this strain to be one of the keystones of the success of the Wicked Weed comeback. I'll attempt to sprout more when the weather improves a bit.
This year the Miss Universe and the Nanan Bouclou are my "stretch" strains. Miss Universe may have some auto-flowering tendencies, and Nanan Bouclou may not finish early enough.
I know, I know... this is quite the introduction and overblown hype for just this:
Nanan Bouclou with Miss Universe in the background:
Starts that were transplanted into larger pots with organic soil were decimated by slugs. A few did survive like this offspring of the unusual Wick Weed male. So far, the children are beautifully well formed and expressing the sativa side. It won't be long before my first terpene observations will be possible. Next time I'll wait longer before transplanting the Jiffy Pots so the seedlings are not so vulnerable to the slugs and snails:
Because of strains like Burmese, Bangi Haze, and smoke reports of Miss Universe (Kali Mist) and C99, I think I will eventually be able to grow potent cerebral/trippy/energetic strains like Zamaldelica in these northern latitudes. I'm positive that it is possible, because I've been working to replace ones I had discovered and lost in years past. A thorough and successful testing of a Wicked Weed male may launch the crosses that will bring us a step closer to our goal of outdoor northern versions of trip weed that are the likes of these:
Maui
Zamaldelica
ColJam
Senegal Haze
Jamaican
Neville's Haze (Freak Pheno)
I have a lot of cuttings that need preservation and testing by the creation of seeds.
ThaiBliss
The weather here has been exceptionally wet and much too cold for any summer vegetation to do more than crawl forward as slow as molasses, even in my greenhouse. This is one of the rainiest winters in all the decades I have been living here. However, if we get a few warmer and sunnier days than normal strung together in a row, I'll be prepared for it.
I have planted:
Wicked Weed
Burmese
Miss Universe (Poly Hybrid with Mostly Kali Mist, a bit of C99 and Others)
Nanan Bouclou (Haitian and Cape Trib. Australian(PNG Red))
Bangi Haze x Wicked Weed (test of unusual male)
Fruity Pebbles x Wicked Weed (...male test)
Wicked Weed x Wicked Weed (...male test)
Unfortunately, Burmese has failed to sprout. I'm heartbroken about it. I was so thrilled to have these again because I consider this strain to be one of the keystones of the success of the Wicked Weed comeback. I'll attempt to sprout more when the weather improves a bit.
This year the Miss Universe and the Nanan Bouclou are my "stretch" strains. Miss Universe may have some auto-flowering tendencies, and Nanan Bouclou may not finish early enough.
I know, I know... this is quite the introduction and overblown hype for just this:
Nanan Bouclou with Miss Universe in the background:
Starts that were transplanted into larger pots with organic soil were decimated by slugs. A few did survive like this offspring of the unusual Wick Weed male. So far, the children are beautifully well formed and expressing the sativa side. It won't be long before my first terpene observations will be possible. Next time I'll wait longer before transplanting the Jiffy Pots so the seedlings are not so vulnerable to the slugs and snails:
Because of strains like Burmese, Bangi Haze, and smoke reports of Miss Universe (Kali Mist) and C99, I think I will eventually be able to grow potent cerebral/trippy/energetic strains like Zamaldelica in these northern latitudes. I'm positive that it is possible, because I've been working to replace ones I had discovered and lost in years past. A thorough and successful testing of a Wicked Weed male may launch the crosses that will bring us a step closer to our goal of outdoor northern versions of trip weed that are the likes of these:
Maui
Zamaldelica
ColJam
Senegal Haze
Jamaican
Neville's Haze (Freak Pheno)
I have a lot of cuttings that need preservation and testing by the creation of seeds.
ThaiBliss
Amen Brother!
Learned year after year that the slugs, cutworms, grasshoppers or rodents were going to take their share of the seedlings. That sucks when your beans are limited in quantity.
For the last three years any seedling that goes outside gets a plastic solo cup (not the big red/blue ones but the smaller opaque ones) with the bottom quarter cut off as a collar - think about the funnel collars used on dogs and cats to keep them from licking or attacking a wound and you'll get the picture.
Not 100% solution but cheap insurance as it were. Has significantly reduced my seedling losses from these critters.
Thanks Dawn Patrol.
I found a few pictures of the Wicked Weed male I'm testing that I have not yet posted:
You can see it starts out with the fat Burmese like leaves, but very quickly gets more sativa looking S.E. Asian top leaves. What really gets my interest is the lower levels of myrcene that make the limonene stand out more.
ThaiBliss
I found a few pictures of the Wicked Weed male I'm testing that I have not yet posted:
You can see it starts out with the fat Burmese like leaves, but very quickly gets more sativa looking S.E. Asian top leaves. What really gets my interest is the lower levels of myrcene that make the limonene stand out more.
ThaiBliss
