The Search for Trip Weed

[Bob Green]

Gents,


Dang TB your thread sure came out to be some kind of amazing sir! It's like a badass sub forum for trip weed lovers.

MostlyMe, your Mextiza smoke report has me drooling!



Onward through the fog!

 

[MostlyMe]

If you planned for seeds, check a few calyxes to see if they' are mature, prior to harvest. The rules of clear>cloudy> amber still apply in seeded plants. Seeded plants will fade and turn amber more quickly. HM x BB has some indica, I don't recommend letting HM x BB turn amber, although I've seen sativa dominate pheno-types of HM x BB go 13 - 14 weeks with only a bit of amber.

I didn't plan for it, the Mextiza hermie did the pollination. Normally I judge harvest time by the overall look of the plant and the status of the pistils, but with the pollination I get mixed signals. Leaves are yellow and dying, but still a lot of white pistils. So I guess I'll have to go by trichs this time. I consider amber a waste, cloudy also to a lesser extent - I like to see some of it to know the plant is starting it's final phase.

Imo. Lightly seeded. You are picking seeds out of weed, heavily seeded you are picking weed out of seeds. Seeds I imagine, will always taste like crap if smoked.

Good, good, definitely lightly seeded then.

MostlyMe, your Mextiza smoke report has me drooling!

Don't you hate it when that happens? Now you want to expand your seed collection even though you already have enough for years of growing

 

[Bob Green]

Well I made sure to grab some Mextiza last year.

Now Cannabiogen just had to go and release the new Durban genetics.


Yup road goes on forever and the party never ends!

 

[PicosPoisonftw!]

Regarding seeded bud, I seem to recall DJ Short saying he preferred the high to that of sensi

Yep.

Can someone pm a source for mextiza?

 

[PicosPoisonftw!]

Imo. Lightly seeded. You are picking seeds out of weed, heavily seeded you are picking weed out of seeds. Seeds I imagine, will always taste like crap if smoked.

That's why you blast it!

 

[LostTribe]

I don't know what lightly seeded is, as this is the first time I have harvested seeds at all. The buds are not chock full of seeds though (see pics below)



Yes, one of two plants hermied... first time for me, so I didn't really know what to look for and the plant was in the back anyway. Found the pollen sacks after harvest.

Hermie on the left, another pheno on the right, and the zoomed pic is the hermie as well.

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I usually like my weed best when it's one to two months in the jar. Taste is already quite developed and potency is still high. From there on it does indeed gain complexity but it also loses potency. My Double Thai I harvested 1 year ago, for example, is still nice, but not nearly that shot of caffeine it used to be.

Hmm, what more to tell about Mextiza? During my first try it took a good 20 minutes to reach full effect. Usually in that situation, you feel it's gonna hit you soon, like tightness on the chest or tingles on your head. None of that with Mextiza, it just washes over you. No rush, no racing heart, just bliss. It's probably impossible to freak out on this stuff.



I see. So what do you recommend I do with my pollinated Golden Tiger and HMxBB that are still in my tent (12 weeks 12/12)? They started yellowing early. I thought it was a pH problem but now I know it was the pollination. Now they have that end of life look (dying leaves) but still quite a bit of white pistils. Trichs are starting to get cloudy, which is usually when I start thinking about harvesting, but GT at 12 weeks 12/12 is a bit short even with pollination. Flowering time of HMxBB is listed as 11 weeks I believe, so that might be ready.



No sir, it will not Not a bad strain though.

That last pic looks dan K!

 

[Donald Mallard]

Lets hope so man ...

 

[ThaiBliss]

Cannabisso,

That plant in the first picture looks like it is the one. Wicked good looking leaf shape that I have seen somewhere before.

ThaiBliss

 

[satva]

Highland Colombian, Mexican, Thai

Highland Colombian, Mexican, Thai

And the search goes on.........
Destroyer x 1973 Highland Guerrero / Blueberry f2 (Mexican dominate) elegant structure, dark green leaves, pine /citrus/cedar

Copalita Oaxacan

Destroyer x 1973 Highland Mexican / Blueberry f2 (skunky one)

Punto Rojo

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,


Preparations for taking the search outside are moving forward. Here is what my garden looked like in previous years:

I decided to bring in heavy equipment and many truckloads of compost:

I'm planning on leveraging the success I had with Bangi Haze in order to grow and test larger numbers to search through by growing outdoors. I need some genetic variety to use to breed to the likes of the SAGE cutting I have, Zamaldelica, or other later flowering trippy weeds with early Bangi Haze like varieties that flower and ripen outdoors in this area. Towards this goal, I'm giving Ciskei and Queen Mother a go.


Here are a couple of Ciskei seedlings:

Next week I'll feature some pictures of Queen Mother Seedlings.

ThaiBliss

 

[ThaiBliss]

I have a cutting of Destroyer x Fire Fox Tail that has been in a tiny pot for about a year. A seed sprouted in that pot... after a year. I have had experience with old seeds that sprouted a few months after planting. This is the first time I seen this happen a year later.


The seedling was obviously sativa or NLD looking and it occurred to me that this could be from some Cambodian seeds that a friend gave me that I could not get to sprout after a few months. In cases like that, I would have dumped the soil mix back into my bucket and reused it for other purposes like for planting cuttings. It could also be from some Purple Haze Thai that did not sprout well for me.


I decided to make a new cutting of Destroyer x Fire Fox Tail, cut back the old cutting of Destroyer x Fire Fox Tail, and let the seedling grow. Unfortunately, the pot is highly root bound that the old seed sprouted from, and this is not a healthy situation for the new seedling. In addition, I'm fighting off an infestation of spider mites and I have been hitting the very small seedling with insecticidal soap, pyrethrums, rosemary oil, and other products that can be harsh to plants.


It looks like hell, but it is obvious to me that this seedling is from some interesting genetics. What do you all think?

ThaiBliss

 

[Skinny Leaf]

Marijuana doesn't seem to like pyrethrum to much. I had an aphid infestation and used pyrethrum on my plants. It got rid of the aphids but the plants looked like hell for a while. They bounced back in time for flowering.

I would grow anything that sprouted. So yeah bug spray and all its a keeper for the grow.

I have to concur on the seed sprouting with plants that are already growing. I sprouted some skunk haze this way. I put the seeds in pots with plants going into flower. Took thirty days for the seeds to sprout. Definitely worth the try with old seeds.

Is Bhangi Haze still the same beans these days? Would I find any with that nepalese temple hashball smell? Good job with the compost injection.

 

[whiteweedo]

At page 103 after 1 week of slow reading.Slowly going through all the posts.I realised only in this thread I had to google search many strain names and read up on them

Thanks TB and gang.Learning alot in this thread.

Here we only get nameless brickweed,full of seed and stem, sativa landrace I would assume since its sun and rain year round in this region.

 

[Der Raketmensch]

ThaiBliss,

Sweet set up man. I've been following this thread for a minute as a lurker, and you're posts are always really interesting, great taste and curation of genetics. I'll be particularly interested in the Queen Mother and what you end up doing with. You're posts inspired me to run Bangi Haze in my current grow, so props to you. Gotta love those spanish breeders, they have a keen sense of quality. Best of luck with this season, I'll be excited to see what goes down.

Respect to all the other trip heads as well.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Thanks for the good vibes Der Raketmensch. More on the Queen Mother later.

For now, here are a couple of better pictures of the Mystery Sprout:

I was hoping that this might be one of the Cambodians that I tried and failed to sprout, but I'm starting to see what I think might be Meao Thai looking leaf shapes. That would mean the seed was planted even longer than a year ago.

What do you ACE and Cannabiogen aficionados think?

If that is true, it is likely Purple Haze Thai, which would not be bad at all. I only got a male to sprout, and I used it to make seed from SAGE. It turned out very nice. I'd like to see how a female Purple Haze Thai might smoke.

Another possibility which I think is the most remote, based on looks, is that it is from a Destroyer x Fire Fox Tail seed.

Trip on,

ThaiBliss

 

[jay sus]

first impression is SE Asian. but i´m just as often wrong than not

 

[ThaiBliss]

Greetings,

I'm growing a number of last year's most popular, "Dank Dank". Here is a leaf from one of last year's plants:

This is a seed line that I have been growing for decades. Outcrosses in this line were mostly sativa leaning in effect except for one particularly tasty indica plant, after which the line was called "Dank Dank" by my friends, and it stuck. It does not taste as good anymore, but the effects are recovering from that lack of breeding judgment due to the impressive honey oil flavor of that one indica.

The other outcross that had very fat leaves, and solidified fat leaves and buds in the genetics was from Burmese, but the effect of Burmese was distinctly sativa like. Another recent was outcross was to Trainwreck.

Most people thought that this was by far the best stuff I grew last year, but others do not like it because "it makes me want to get up and go do something, if I don't, I get anxious". LOL!

This spring, I found an interesting and very vigorous male plant. On the fourth set of leaves, there are at least 11 leaflets. I might find more as the leaf expands to full size. There are 11 because of freakish leaflets on the leaflets. I'm considering using this male to pollinate another Dank Dank female, last year's best Bangi Haze, and Ciskei, if Ciskei turns out well.

 

[ThaiBliss]

This Dank Dank line is the one with a significant percentage of cannabinoids as CBG. I promised to post the lab results. I'm not sure you can see all the detail very well:

First of all, just a little craziness of how dispensaries are. I could not submit the sample as "Dank Dank", because it is not a popular and known strain. I named it Burmese Dank, because the dispensary owner had heard of Burmese, and it was one of the most recent outcrosses. I have been maintaining this line for 30+ years, and even though I have outcrossed it to many popular strains, Burmese; Trainwreck; Skunk#1, etc., there were also strains that it was crossed to like Seeing God, that most have never heard of. The lab also named the strain Burmese Dank on one page, but listed Burmese Kush on the second page. Apparently, names just have to be familiar.

Ratio of Cannbinoids:

THC 83%
CBG 15%
CBC < 1%
CBD 0% (0.07)
CBN < 1%

To summarize the some of the main terpene results by % of total:

beta-Myrcene 26.566%
beta-Pinene 24.251%
Selina-3,7(11)-diene 13.600%
Limonene 9.676%
Ocimene 4.046%
Elemine 3.485%

 

[RulaTone]

this is crazy...
i smiled when i read CBD 0%
congrats man thats a holy grail!!

 

[ThaiBliss]

this is crazy...
i smiled when i read CBD 0%
congrats man thats a holy grail!!

Thanks RulaTone,

That is one of the three things I liked seeing in the lab results. The others were significant amounts of Pinene, and significant amounts of Limonene. I heard Dubi found lower amounts of CBD in one of his Zamaldelicas, 0.01%. If I find one of those, and I like the effects, I'll breed that into the line.

I may have to use a Ciskei or Queen Mother to cross to the Zamaldelica to bring down the ripening date.

Here is one Ciskei that I am trying:

Here are some Queen Mothers:

The Ciskei is very lemony smelling, and a bit incense like. Very strong.

The Queen Mothers are extremely fast growing. They were planted last, at least 4 weeks later than the very first and largest Bangi Haze x Nepal Jam crosses, and one of them is almost as large as the largest of all plants.

ThaiBliss