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The Search for Trip Weed

Siever

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Has anybody ever grown other zamal strains like double zamal, kalité tizane or mangu carrot?
 

Siever

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What is SOA?
Anyway, because I noticed that Double Zamal is becoming rare I think I'll buy a pack as soon as I found one.
 

Siever

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I already saw seeds of Africa's seedlist and it seems to me that for pure sativa's their flowering time is a bit short.
About DZ: I contacted afew of them and it appears that almost none of them have DZ for real.
Stealthy seeds has them but I've never heard about them, nor can I find any user review of them. Oa seeds might have it too, together with USC Double Jam, but they don't answer my questions, yet.
If I can't find Double Jam it's not that bad, coz Jah Green is going to release an enhanced version in 4 to 8 months.
I can wait because there are so many other strains to explore.
 

Riddleme

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Hey Thai

Perhaps you should throw down a few hemp seeds

I got this cut of Harlequin that was being passed out by one of Colorado's Senators back when all the families were movin here for the high CBD oil for their kids. The Charlotte's Web growers could not keep up with demand at the time and were not letting loose of cuts (or seeds)

This cut of Harlequin is 100% Sativa and is bassically a Hemp plant with 12% CBD and less than 1% THC. It finishes in 10 weeks and tastes wonderful. Tis an awesome painkiller, my Ol Lady smokes a hit or 2 when she has those cramps that women get and it kills em in less than 10 min. My point is it is a great Medical strain but not trippy.

However the cross I made with Aces Golden Tiger made a great 10 week strain that is spacey as hell and that I named Major Tom shortly after hearing Bowie passed. And the salads (smoke a bit of this, smoke a bit of that) have been Mondo Trippy !!!

First new cross is with my Rihanna which is Pink Kush X my CTF, smokin this salad is like sittin down and havin a convo with God, I'll be dropin the beans soon

It has become my honest opinion that the ratios of various cannibanoids is much more important to find trippy than is the % of THC
 

Waldgeist

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yo thai the silver haze is too fast and not peppery anymore, smells more frankincense/church type, maybe its still worth a trip:biggrin:

some lowers @ 65 days





nailz indeed but damn i wanted the peppery one:biggrin:

:tiphat:
 

ThaiBliss

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It has become my honest opinion that the ratios of various cannibanoids is much more important to find trippy than is the % of THC

I agree. I would add that I think terpenes are important.

On another point of discussion, I had my long held/bred strain tested and it showed 19.21% THC, .07% CBD and 4.10% Terpenes. Of the terpenes, Myrcene dominated at 26.6 %, but was followed closely by 24.3% Pinene. Other notables were Selina-3,7(11)-diene at 13.6% and Limonene at 9.7%.

The interesting thing was that there was a significant amount of a cannabinoid named CBG which tested out at 15%. I know little about CBG. My understanding was that CBG is called the "stem cell" of cannabinoids. I thought that this meant I should have let it get more ripe, and perhaps THC would have risen, but I spoke with a researcher with a PhD in toxicology studying the entourage effect of chemicals in Cannabis, and I was told that CBG is not a precursor to THC, and is a relatively rare cannabinoid.

Has anyone been reading about CBG and have any insights?

Thanks,

ThaiBliss
 

SpaceBros.

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CBG is the precursor cannabinoid. All other cannabinoids (THC, CBD, CBC etc) are produced from this molecule. If you have high CBG levels it may be a case of too early harvest or that your THC/CBD/CBC synthases are not working efficiently. CBG-M (Cannbigerol Monomethyl ether) is a rarer cannabinoid found in some Thai plants. Maybe that's what he's talking about?

Was CBG 15% of total cannabinoids or 15% total by dry weight? CBG is not so rare but usually only present in smaller amounts. Any chance you could post the lab report?

Thanks,

SB
 

ThaiBliss

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CBG is the precursor cannabinoid. All other cannabinoids (THC, CBD, CBC etc) are produced from this molecule. If you have high CBG levels it may be a case of too early harvest or that your THC/CBD/CBC synthases are not working efficiently. CBG-M (Cannbigerol Monomethyl ether) is a rarer cannabinoid found in some Thai plants. Maybe that's what he's talking about?

Possibly, but not explicitly. Sometimes people dumb things down for newbies, and unintentionally mislead. I sent my report to the toxicologist, so I might get clarification. I will post the report when I get more time, but it reads Cannabigerol (CBG). The plant is more than 50% S.E. Asian, from Burmese mostly, some Thai from a private strain, and from Haze in the strain's history.

Was CBG 15% of total cannabinoids or 15% total by dry weight? CBG is not so rare but usually only present in smaller amounts. Any chance you could post the lab report?

THC and CBD by dry weight, and CBG by ratio of total cannabinoids.


ThaiBliss
 

Genghis Kush

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I already saw seeds of Africa's seedlist and it seems to me that for pure sativa's their flowering time is a bit short.
About DZ: I contacted afew of them and it appears that almost none of them have DZ for real.
Stealthy seeds has them but I've never heard about them, nor can I find any user review of them. Oa seeds might have it too, together with USC Double Jam, but they don't answer my questions, yet.
If I can't find Double Jam it's not that bad, coz Jah Green is going to release an enhanced version in 4 to 8 months.
I can wait because there are so many other strains to explore.

Herbies has Double Zamal in stock
 

Waldgeist

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silver haze sensi cut (++strong, maybe trippy with lower tolerance;))



cant recommend daily activities with a gram of this in your pocket, youll soon get into noided out 'fuck i have to leave they can all smell the herb' or similar situations.
this particular one smells utterly medieval.

for me it keeps me up in a strange mode, cant move, cant sleep, must crumble some more and stare to the wall but i look through it because i listen to something i cant hear.

:biggrin:
 
It would be a cool breeding project, take this strain and cross with a frosty strain. Then look for phenos that look like the original Swazi Red beard bud, but packed with crystals.

30 WEEKS! Please don't say that. If I have 11 more weeks to go... then I did use way too little nitrogen. Those pale washed out areas on the bud are going to die. I'm hoping for 4 more weeks.

One the other hand...
Here are some pictures of Swazi Red Beard from the African Strains thread that look like what is happening to the plant I'm growing. The name of the strain is Swazi Red Beard, and it is the areas of the bud that look like something that has gone terribly wrong where it turns red.

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Here is a picture of a traditionally grown ganja field in Africa that has not been over fertilized:

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Super fertilizing plants is a new phenomenon. It is one of the reasons that ganja (and tomatoes) quality has gone downhill in the last 20 years, in my opinion.

Sorry, I just can't seem to let it go.

ThaiBliss
 

satva

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2016 ~ Haze x Skunk

2016 ~ Haze x Skunk

Colombian Haze - Punto Rojo


Colombian Haze - Punto Rojo


1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry


1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry





SamS 1960 Haze used three Colombian Hazes, Punto Rojo, Green Haze, Magenta/Purple Haze.

1960's Haze x Skunk is (Colombian Haze x Highland Mexican ) SamS Skunk #1 is probably 1970 Acapulco Gold dominate. 1972 Acapulco Gold as a stony psychedelic high. 1972 Panama Red and 1975 Colombian Red were similar strong head stone that creates peaceful mellow awareness. High is from Punto Rojo darker maroon / red phenos.

At that time I was harvesting forearm sized colas of Maui Wowie, and Highland Oaxacan Gold. The Maui wowie I grew in 1974 - 1977, was a Red Head. I love Red Heads! "Red Hair - 11 finger" pheno is Destroyer x Highland Mexican appears to be from Destroyer 1960 Mexican x Colombian dominate. Maui Wowie high is similar to " Red Hair - 11 finger". The high is spacious, pleasurable, contented, peaceful, soft and trippy high.

Haze x Skunk ~ Colombian Gold dominate is very cerebral and trippy. 1972 Santa Marta Colombian Gold was a strong cerebral high Thai Sticks _ also know as Juicy Fruit Thai had a similar high to Santa Marta Gold, but had a more pleasurable high. Punto Rojo has a light green / gold pheno with a blissful. trippy, cerebral high. ColoJam - (Colombian Gold x 1960 Jamaican Lambsbread) x Colombian Gold.
 
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satva

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2016 Haze x Skunk

2016 Haze x Skunk

Haze x Skunk ~ Colombian Gold dominate is very cerebral and trippy. 1972 Santa Marta Colombian Gold was a strong cerebral high Thai Sticks _ also know as Juicy Fruit Thai had a similar high to Santa Marta Gold, but had a more pleasurable high. Punto Rojo has a light green / gold pheno with a blissful. trippy, cerebral high. ColoJam - (Colombian Gold x 1960 Jamaican Lambsbread) x Colombian Gold.


Colombian Haze ~ Punto Rojo "Juicy Lucy"


A pleasureable blissful Skunk is Highland Oaxacan Gold sometimes a skunk and sometimes a Haze.


Highland Thai strong, spacious and mellow similar high, but not as clean or blissful as Punto Rojo Maroon pheno types. Charlie Garcia said to look for Highland Thai as the medium leaf thickness pheno types. Destroyer Thai genetics seem to be mostly meduim leaf Highland Thai which has excellent resin production. Destroyer has an occassional thin leaf, whacky, freaky pheno with a whacky, freaky, trippy high. Destroyer's 1960 Red Hair Mexican pheno was the mother, so you know 1960's Red Hair mother for quality of the high. Similar high to my favorite 1970 high ~ 1973 Maui Wowie bright orange flowers similar to this.


"Red Hair ~ 11 finger"
 

satva

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Colombian Gold, smoke report

Colombian Gold, smoke report

(1980 Colombian Gold / 1960's Jamaican Lambsbread) x 1980 Colombian Gold] ColJam by USC. ColJam is a sister to one of the Haze Brothers, I'm not sure which one hehehe......... she surfed with the Haze Brothers in Santa Cruz. She loves the beach, its such a blissful experience. (wink, wink)





Jahlabelgreen has a 1972 and 1980 Colombian Gold. ColoJam genetics have been developed, I beleive Jalabelgreen noted the 1980 Colombian was used in ColJam. ColJam has good growth structure and growth characteristics for a Haze, perhaps more developed than CBG Colombian Punto Rojo. I think the female shown is Colombian Gold dominate. The Lambsbread phenos were not a flower child, late bloomers compared to Punto Rojo and 1980 Colombian Gold phenos. , Jamaican Lambsbread phenos are very wild indoors.

+20 weeks flowering, smoking nicely after two month cure. Still needs =2 months more curing. Only flowered one female, so I can't say too much.........

The high is softer, not as strong, or as long lasting as 1970's LSD-25. However; ColJam high is as close as I've experience from marijuana. The effect alters your mind, as you thought you knew it -making new neurological pathways for thoughts. You're high, you walk into a room, you're likely to find yourself contemplating life and forget why you walked into the room. Easy to shift back from mindfulness of life and then easy to create awareness that~ goes beyond familiar experiences.

ColJam's high is very blissful and trippy. Its easy to experience energy thru your crown chakra. Rare to find marijuana with a strong awareness thru the crown chaka or top of your head and beyond. Its good for astral projection, visualization practice, and space travel, be sure and mark your pathway home.

To categorize the high is: blissful, clear, cerebral, trippy, and electric. Trippy energy and intense if you smoke a thin joint. Other worldly spacious, with almost no stone. ColJam may not be for you if you like a strong, dense, overpowering sativa stone.

Driving in Colorado - stoners laugh about falling asleep at stop signs -ColJammer's stop three times while analyzing the emotional vibrations of red and the true meaning of "to go".

ColJam perhaps creates more mental analysis than you need to get thru the world. Smoke ColJam all day for a few days, and I'll get the 1970's tripped out feeling. By comparison, Colombian Punto Rojo is more euphoric, psychedelic, and contemplative, more feel good, happy, and less intensely focused and trippy than ColJam.
 
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satva

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Destroyer -1980 Highland Gold Thai, smoke report

Destroyer -1980 Highland Gold Thai, smoke report

Destroyer's 1980 Highland Gold Thailand pheno type ~ 16 ~ 17 weeks.



This Destroyer phenotype is Highland Thai dominate the high is clear, pleasureable, and mentally focused. Very spacious effect with a bit of time warp.

"Destroyer smoke report ~ 17 week phenotype smell in jar is similar to Frankincense/Cedar/Pine/Sage, the smell of the smoke is Sage / Herbal / Pine.

Clear, energetic, cerebral ~ connoisseur high. 9 month of curing. For months during the curing the smell was of Sage/Straw, now the smell - in the jar- is Frankincense/Sweet Spice/Cedar/ Sage. This pheno-type is my favorite smoke. That concludes the straight commentary.

Now for the smoke report~~

I'm floating at bit, as the energy is uplifting, spiraling, and light. Energy is flowing from the upper part of my brain, light energy flowing all around at the level of my eyes. My heart rate and energy increased from the upper chest. The effect is more energetic than euphoric. Euphoria is felt as floating and uplifting - a characteristic of Highland Thai. By contrast - euphoria from Chimera's Highland Mexicans are more grounded and connected to the earth with good feeling. This phenotype is clearer than Chimera's Highland Mexican, not as clear, clean, or trippy as Punto Rojo. .

The spiraling energy flow around eye level of the head is psychedelic, The upper part of your brain is active, so the effect is uplifting. The high is clear, in the head. The body effect is contracting and a bit tight. Other than that - first class connoisseur high." The duration of the high is 3 -4 hours, doesn't take much to stay high all day.
 
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satva

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Highland Thai x Highland Mexican, smoke report

Highland Thai x Highland Mexican, smoke report

Destroyer x Highland Guerrero x Blueberry - (Highland Mexican dominate) My favorite high - 1960's Red Hair mother x 1973 Highland Guerrero father. Stronger dense, euphoric high. 1973 Highland Mexican goes from skunk aroma then after 4 months of cure to a perfume rose and temple incense, sweeter than frankincense. Blueberry brings some euphoric indica, pleasureable, and feel good high. This high is similar to Acapulco Gold, Highland Hair jazzes up the high. There is some stone. Not clean and clear like Colombian Gold and Colombian Light - Green.

(Highland Thai x 1960's Red Hair Mexican - Colombian) x 1973 Highland Guerrero / Blueberry

Mrs. Perfume Skunk
Highland Mexican dominate cross with Destroyer (DS x HMBB) significantly improved the flowering structure of Highland Mexican.

Mr. Perfume Skunk pollinated four Punto Rojo females. A few Punto Rojo x Destroyer/Highland Mexican seedlings sprouted this week.

Mrs. Perfume Skunk cured ~ four months, smoking very nice. Destroyer also adds a cleaner more spacious high from the Highland Thai genetics in Destroyer. The high is spiritual, and calm, with psychedelic vibrations, the energy flow is a combination of spacey, calm and tripping. Makes you feel life is much better. And so it is! Close to ~ "As it should be". There if some stone and floating bodily sensations. Energy is soaring out the top of my head as I focus on this keyboard, which is abstract. Increased heartbeat and lots of energy with a feel good vibe very blissful. Pleasant rolling wave like energy thru my body is psycedelic. Increased sensory awareness makes the world a big fun place!

Mrs. Perfume Skunk combines well with Punto Rojo. Punto Rojo is a spiritual strain. The high is "As it should be" Punto Rojo is blissful in a natural and peaceful, but its not a feel good and groovey as the high from Mrs. Perfume Skunk.

The high has a psychedelic vibration, but does not increase mental activity. Thoughts and energy flow like a river without increased thought production, euphoric, expansive, sensory perceptions are intensified and psychedelic.

There is a connected energy to your world, sunlight, clouds, and the sky appear magical - similar to Don Juan's concept of seeing. (Seeing = an energetic and direct connection to your world and environment).

 
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