The Search for Trip Weed

[satva]

DJ Short's Blueberry = [(Purple Thai x Afghani x Highland Oaxacan Gold / Cholocalte Thai) x (Highland Thai x Afghani) Chimera's selection called B130 male seems sativa dominate.

Highland Oaxacan Gold was one of my 1970's favorites.

Ever have any experience wih the zipolite?
No, but Zipolite sounds interesting. Who makes Zipolite? A thin leaf long flowering Highland Oaxacan Gold would be nice, right about now.

ThaiBliss is the Big Sur Holy Weed guru! He has a holy SAGE clone. I haven't tried Big Sur Holy Weed. The original 1960's Purple Zacatecas Mexican was crossed with Afghani and SAGE crossed twice with Afghani male(s). Starting SAGE if you selected several generations of thin purple leaf Mexicans, you might get a taste of a pure Zacatecas Mexican high in a couple of years.

Chimera's 1973 Highland Guerrero is a good one. Cannabiogen's (CBG) 1979 Oaxacan looks old school. CBG notes the 1979 Oaxacan is often dominate in Mextiza.
Mextiza might be your cup of tea.

one of the most spiritual non-pure sativas he has had.
What's the most spiritual pure sativa he has had?

Colorado is a highland environment with high sunlight intensity even in the winter.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Have any of you tried the big sur holy weed? Bodhi and... I want to say snowhigh released seperate batches of this old nor cal heirloom a while back. It is supposed to be super spiritual and has been selected for 20+ years to favor a spiritual high. Word on the street is that the super special phenos are zipolite leaning. Bodhi said it was one of the most spiritual non-pure sativas he has had. Although I have spoken to some who say they didn't find anything particularly special in a pack.

My unusually heavily sativa leaning cutting of SAGE is supposed to have Big Sur Holy Weed in it. It has remained the queen of my collection despite years of testing against many of the most highly regarded sativa strains available. I believe the Mexican variety in it is named Purple Zacatecas. I also recently acquired a cutting of Big Sur Holy Weed that looks very much like my SAGE cut. I have tried another Big Sur Holy weed many years ago that was more green looking. Both SAGE and the new Big Sur Holy Weed that I have now have hints of purple in it. I regret letting go of the green pheno I had. The high was not smash you in the face impressive, but grew on me over time, and I miss it. It creped up on you, and was very positive and enlightening. I missed it, not long after I let it go. The high of SAGE and the old Big Sur Holy Weed I once had would peak about an hour after you smoked it. Both highs were euphoric, enlightening, cerebral, and sensory enhancing. I have not tested the newer purplish Big Sur Holy Weed yet.

Here are some buds from the SAGE cutting I have:

Here is a leaf that shows the indica influence that it has in it:

I normally has only three leaflets, but if you get it growing really healthy, it will get five and seven leaflets for a short time after you put it into flowering.

When I grow the new Big Sur Holy Weed cut I have, I'll pair it with SAGE so you can compare the two, side by side. The similarity is remarkable.

The SAGE cutting I have produces buds that cure to a very piney aroma after about 9 months. There is another plant I have that I need to try, Maui. It seems to have a touch of sweet piney aroma from the stem of the cutting. If that also has the same qualities of the high, pairing the genetics of SAGE, Big Sur Holy Weed, and Maui may be a good breeding path to preserving that Mexican highland piney terpene goodness.

ThaiBliss

 

[Croissant]

thaibliss I am wondering how dominant was the sage phenol in the sage seeds?

Is their any reason to believe the sage of today would be something different than the sage of yesteryear?

I actually came across some nugs a few years back of Sage OG that was the sage phenol and looked just like your buds and smelled like white sage with a smooth cool hit. It was up clear and centered no edginess at all with some feel good energy to it.

 

[ThaiBliss]

This SAGE plant smell sweet and sage/spicy. It only simplifies to pine/turpentine after a very long cure.

thaibliss I am wondering how dominant was the sage phenol in the sage seeds?

I really don't know yet.

Is their any reason to believe the sage of today would be something different than the sage of yesteryear?

I don't know how old this cut of SAGE is. It may be that this SAGE cut IS the SAGE of yesteryear.

I'm hoping for more of the same from Big Sur Holy Weed, and then it may not matter. I may get some good seeds by banging it around amongst those.

Maui, my only other piney plant, will be up next. It is sweet and piney right off the bat.

ThaiBliss

 

[Croissant]

well, it is not a sativa BUT the strain Yumboldt has a pine component like perfumey pine, honey, brown sugar and hints of mysore sandalwood with an extremely euphoric effect. From a perfumers standpoint the sage OG I tried and the yumboldt combined would create a heavenly scent.

Is that the reefer man BsHW you refer too?

and where did you source this maui?

 

[ThaiBliss]

well, it is not a sativa BUT the strain Yumboldt has a pine component like perfumey pine, honey, brown sugar and hints of mysore sandalwood with an extremely euphoric effect.

Yumboldt sounds great to me, as long as it is get you on your feet euphoric rather than put you on the couch euphoric. When does it ripen when grown outdoors? I'm looking for good outdoor weed to grow also.

From a perfumers standpoint the sage OG I tried and the yumboldt combined would create a heavenly scent.

Is that the reefer man BsHW you refer too?

and where did you source this maui?

The BSHW and the Maui were both cuts acquired on the west coast of the U.S.. I believe the Maui was brought from Hawaii. LOL. Seriously, the guy I got it from said he just got it from a friend who went to Hawaii. I'll post a picture of it this weekend. I'm trying to get it big enough to go into the flowering cabinet.

The guy I got the BSHW from said he got it from a friend who went to Big Sur or somewhere near Big Sur. I don't remember if it was Santa Cruz or somewhere else down on the So Cal coast. By So. Cal I mean south of San Francisco. While SnowHigh has much more sativa looking plants in his pictures, I'm happy that it looks just like the SAGE cut I have except the stem is a little less sturdy.

Anything that looks like SAGE is exciting to me because the only other strain I have found with such a nice clean cerebral high is Bangi Haze. SAGE hits me a bit harder, and gives me more of a feeling like when I was getting high as a kid. It is more memory inducing, and makes me feel like I am "seeing" the world from a vantage point that allows me to appreciate the magic of it all. Benevolence reigns supreme in that state.

ThaiBliss

 

[Croissant]

thaibliss,

Oh, ok I see.

Well the Yumboldt is "on the couch euphoric" BUT I always remember thinking that it could make a grail hybrid with the right sativa elements added to it. On its own it has this, how one imagines a golden age from the past type of feeling with very powerfull anti anxiety anti stress relief. A very Kind bud and while very indica it provides IMO the very best of the indica spectrum. The only other indicas I have had that I felt were on that level were Deep chunk and not quite but a blueberry BUbbakush hybrid.

I have been very interested in BSHW ever since I tried that sage OG, I didn't try enough of it to really give it a full assessment but it was very unique and provided a high that seemed on the path as you describe. It seems BSHW is more a type almost than an actual strain, or perhaps their are just a few good heirloom varieties from that area that people tend to attach the name and the lore too. Really though who knows?

 

[HatchBrew]

khmer gold pardon the sideways...

 

[satva]

Trip Weed

Trip Weed

Underground Seed Company [(Colombian Gold / Jamacian Lambsbread) x Colombian Gold] ~ +20 weeks four day cure. Colombian Gold dominate - the high is clean, trippy, energetic, and cerebral. Increases mental activity. Ramps up your nervous system like a good psychedelic drug should.

Colombian Gold will go another couple of weeks before harvest in hopes that it mellows out - trichomes are clear and cloudy. The high should mellow out after a long cure.

Colombian Gold is an opposite high from Punto Rojo Colombian which has a calm, psychedelic, mellow, spiritual high.

 

[Dave Coulier]

Garden full O' Thai

Garden full O' Thai

Ever wanted to grow Thai indoor, but didn't think it was do-able or practical? Okay maybe not exactly practical, but still hugely rewarding. A garden full of Thai ranging from 60 days flowering to over 200 days. 6 Thai crammed in there. Just 7 or 8 more days till I eclipse the 30 week mark on TSA in the background, and then she's coming down finally. Shew. Almost there guys.

With her end coming soon, the clones are just beginning to rev up and kick into flowering. Well all except for one who only has pistils at this stage and no actual buds. Patience..

 

[ValleyKush]

From my understanding (which is very limited) the zipolite is a rare, infamous, purple highland mexican; one of the phenos of bshw is zipolite dom. I think from the oxacan region. It probly is the zacatechas- just different name for different crowd? My guess.

I didn't know that about the mextiza, I'll have to check her out. Another added to a long list.

Bodhi said the bshw was one of the most spirirual non pure sativas he had tried.

I almost got a pack of sage quite a while back, sure wish I would have- sounds like a great breeder. Absolutly beautiful nug tb.

Yeah if I didn't love the rain so much I would consider moving to high mountain colorado and growing pure sativas in a summer light dep. Cant even imagine the terp and canabanod production under that intense sun.

 

[ValleyKush]

Here is my lao girl today.

I love having these long flowering girls around. It's not stressful at all when you are expecting them to fail and when they dont they are quite a treat to be around when every other sign of summer is gone.
She is spending her first night in the greenhouse tonight. I want to see if I can keep this line pure and slowly acclimatize it so I am only putting her in on extra cold nights. She has dealt with maybe 3 frosts at most in the last week or so and is starting to show stress more so I figured she could have a comfortable night or 2. Only been 3 days without rain in the past 2 weeks- she seems to love it, a rain forest girl all the way.

 

[satva]

Collecting pollen

Collecting pollen







Tools of the trade for collecting male pollen.

1) Punto Rojo Colombian male small, but mature in vegetation and flower.
2) dinner plate or plate glass
3) course tea screen to separate pollen from the male flowers
4) artist paint brush to move the pollen around from plate into the vial
5) photograph or paper to collect the pollen also doubles as a paper tunnel
6) small glass vial to store the pollen in the freezer. Pollen should be clean and free of any debris.

Keep your tools clean and dry the pollen on the plate for ~ 3 weeks before storing it in the freezer. Remove small bits of pollen, but don't allow the frozen vial to defrost.

 

[satva]

Colombian Gold

Colombian Gold

USC Colombian Gold / Jamaican Lambsbread x Colombian Gold + 20 weeks of flowering clear and cloudy trichomes. High is clear, cerebral, trippy, energetic.

 

[satva]

Punto Rojo

Punto Rojo

CBG Punto Rojo - three pheno-types all lightly seeded

Punto Rojo -1 longest flowering, dark green leafy, long calyxes along the branches, vigorous growth, mostly white pistils

Punto Rojo -2 earliest flowering, small flowers with purple calyxes

Punto Rojo - 2 pistils mostly orange, trichomes clear, getting close to harvest.

Punto Rojo -3 sweet tropical fruit, medium flowering duration, white and orange pistils

 

[bringyalungs]

valey kush, is that the ace seeds or GN lao

 

[SpaceBros.]

valey kush, is that the ace seeds or GN lao

According to Dubi IIRC they are one and the same. They have not been worked further since going to Ace seeds they were just re-selling for GN.

 

[ValleyKush]

She is from bodhi. He collected them from near the boarder of china up in the mountains and I think inbred them one step in cali. He calls it a giant hashplant, it is a giant hash plant indeed. These genetics could easily make a 30' x 30' tree, if not bigger- we'll see what she can do in the ground next year. This year she was popped my last round of seeds and left in a 7 gal (smallest container I use) and still has the thickest stem of anybody.

 

[Madjag]

Has anyone investigated Swami Seeds "Blue Orca"?

Sounds like a tripper.

 

[HatchBrew]

Has anyone investigated Swami Seeds "Blue Orca"?

Sounds like a tripper.


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PakalolofromPNW runs blue orca in his stable. "my intro and bona fides" https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=276818