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the potential in south america

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breeder's choice stock which includes many fine south american sativas.

And it is just the beginning..'06 Collection from Aldous...Reds, Golds and Purple's



http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=30829
This Ecuadorian sativa cross is on its 2nd week flowering. We can see clearly the high standing thricomes. The high is crystal clear, uplifting, conversational (if you don't overpuff). If you want a stratospheric adventure, just have 4-6 puffs of those powerful flowers...

Thats a lovely looking line you have there Budulaire..!

Peace, hhf
 

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Love the quick auctions and ya gotta love the # of bids! Thx for making these available. The future of S.A. genetics looks bright! :jump:
 

zamalito

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I've heard many stories of north americans who moved to south america and confident because of their love for south american culture and life but within a couple months left as broken men. Unless you move to some bland sterile gated community for retired americans and europeans there's just something about the intensity of south america that can drive you completely nuts no matter how much you love it there and want to live there especially for more rigid personality types and older people. I hope to be a full time resident of the continent some day but it does worry me.
 

muddy waters

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yeah, zamalito, it's a different society and culture, though the american sphere of influence is so strong that in many ways the experience of living in the big city here and there is not soooo different, actually. supermarkets, subways, mcdonalds, burger king, shopping malls, taxis, sports fanatics, images of naked women selling beer, american commercial hiphop being blasted out car speakers, credit card debt, american movies, christmas and easter, rich and poor, black and white, gangs and cops, political left and right (ok so in america the former doesn't really exist)...

making the transition from first world urban to a more rural setting in latin america, that would indeed be quite a radical departure, culturally and socially.
 

ngakpa

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I've just been re-reading "The Yage Letters" by William Burroughs

his experiences in South America in the early '50s (up to '53) had an intense formative effect on his imagination, and resulted in much of the material which ended up in Naked Lunch ... so yeh Zam, I would be worried man lol hehe

yeh - PVR - does that mean "your ayahuasca is rich?"

... if by rich they mean it tastes like fox shit stirred into rotten grapefruit juice, then i get it ... if not, then ... what?
 

muddy waters

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zamalito, forgot to mention that the main factor that "breaks" men imo would have to be the language. if you can communicate with your neighbors, communicate what you need, understand directions, then you can participate in society. otherwise it is very isolating. i speak from personal experience. getting fluent in the language doesn't change the cultural differences but it increases your ability to adapt to them, and to express your own personality to others.
 

muddy waters

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heheheh 'que rico' is just an expression, 'how rich!', for something really good.

juaneco's ayahuasca may be quite rich but his women's uniforms are really priceless. i watched every juaneco video youtube has. the man has the recipe for success.

but i was being facetious with what i wrote above, it's hardly typical of latin america, which is becoming more and more urban and 'western' in appearance, despite the best efforts of juaneco y su conjunto and their ayahuasca.
 

ngakpa

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muddy waters said:
but i was being facetious with what i wrote above, it's hardly typical of latin america, which is becoming more and more urban and 'western' in appearance, despite the best efforts of juaneco y su conjunto and their ayahuasca.

damn then I'd better cancel that one way ticket to Bogota right now :)

interesting that "that's rich" has such a different meaning when used in British English, eh?
 
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zamalito

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That's funny I reread burroughs' "queer" on my plane ride to brazil and a good portion of the book is him looking for ayahuasca in brazil.

Muddy, at the same time you moved with very little portuguese knowledge but you were pretty young when you moved and you have the personality type where you can enjoy see humor in an adventure even if it is quite uncomfortable and stressful. I'm still pretty young but the older I get the more I whine and bitch about being uncomfortable or stressed out. Of course, I'm sure that you almost gave up at times and if you hadn't picked up the language as well as you did you may not be there today. But imagine a 50 yr old type A personality that went through everything you did while acclimating. They wouldn't have stood a chance. I've literally heard of people moving to brazil to avoid going to jail and 5 months later decided they preferred american prison to freedom in brazil. Or mike rupert who within 2 months in venezuela had been drugged robbed humiliated and almost killed by some mysterious illness and returned to the u.s where he faced daily harrassment and terrorism.
 

muddy waters

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ngakpa, another odd one is "I imagine"... in english used to express agreement and sympathy, in portuguese ("imagina") it's used for calling the person a liar! imagine how many times this gringo has tried to be nice and pissed people off instead

even without being a real-life juaneco video i think bogota' would still be a lovely place to visit. i know a few people who live there and it seems like a hell of a city.

i would like to live in a juaneco video though, if i haven't made that clear
 

muddy waters

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zamalito you are definitely correct, i had some things going for me. and it still hasn't always been easy. but i didn't exactly find life back in the states very easy or enjoyable, either--so i try to keep that in my head when i go into gripe mode.

that's a funny story about ruppert, well, funny since he's ok now i hope. why the hell did he move to venezuela!?!? jesus christ! i love chavez too but i would not want to be a middle class american in his venezuela! i went to venezuela several years ago to observe the chavez phenomenon and i barely lasted 2 weeks! i saw gun fights, knife fights, was told to get off the street because it wasn't safe, and stayed in a hotel with no running water! the countryside was lovely, typical south america, but the big city is fucking apocalypto... i can't imagine anyone from the u.s. wanting to live there. caracas is not rio de janeiro! lol

i still think that with patience and a good attitude, any person can adapt to life down here. the hard part is maintaining one's patience and good attitude amidst daily manifestations of murphy's law. cannabis, meditation, and a sense of humor are pretty vital imo.
 

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Hola!!!

I think that it is all about the attitude when you move to new country. I mean readjustment (if we can say that..) doesnt come easy, you have to work and study the local language/manners/habits aso... People who are ready to grind a while are more likely futures residents. If you dont have the motivation to study local life and try to make people change in your manners -> it´s going wrong way! Thats what I have learned while out of my homecountry and I have also observed my friends who have moved to Finland. You dont have to live just like locals but you must adopt the local lifestyle.

Just my :2cents: Viva La South America!!!

Thanks for those nice clips ngakpa.

Keep It Green & Growing But Don´t Forget The Smokin!
Peace Out Growers!
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Budelaire

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3 weeks old - Celestial/Ecuadorian strain

3 weeks old - Celestial/Ecuadorian strain

Here is an update on my little South American garden...


 

PazVerdeRadical

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yes, 'que rico' is an expression to mean 'how tasty' in the case of the song hehehe...

lol at the story of mike rupert, who is that lol poor guy

peace!
 

muddy waters

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paz, he is the author of one of the first books about how the neoconservatives manufactured 9/11 to achieve their goals of redrawing the middle east map. now he has his own website, can't remember its name offhand though. his conspiracy writing is pretty interesting, and he's definitely more left-wing than right, and thus a chavez supporter, but that didn't make him a good candidate for life in caracas!

btw zamalito, ruppert used to write for narco news back when it was a mailing list. my girlfriend remembers him being kinda, erm, difficult. meanwhile another narco newser, roughly the some age, also an american expat, has been living happily in caracas for over 20 years. just goes to show you, approach and attitude are everything.
 

zamalito

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Paz, he was the first reporter in the u.s to prove the reagan administration was taking profits from selling cocaine in american ghettos to buy guns for the contras. One of my favorite stories was the one where he had come across this woman who claimed to have married Carlos Lehder (the colombian partner of George Jung, the #2 in the Medillin cartel who owned the island norman's kay which was the jump point off of Fla, the boss of Manuel Noriega who also testified against him, and the only cartel leader ever to be extradited to the u.s) and was living with him in Mexico eventhough the justice dept claims he was in jail in New York State. I'm sure Rupert was difficult but he's a very good investigator. I remember his association with narconews that's how I discovered narconews. I didn't agree with everything he said but his site was very good at picking up on some news that you couldn't find in america. Unfortunately he's out of the journalism game. He couldn't take the government harrassment anymore. The story of what happened to him is on his website which used to be daily updated hasn't been for several months.
 

PazVerdeRadical

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muddy man, heck yes, approach and attitude, and simply just being, relaxed and without pretension are key too. when i lived outside my native venezuela, i was able to mix and mingle amongst the locals with ease, knowing the language before arriving helped for sure though.
zamalito, good story, i have read a bit about the cartels' stories, made me remember a few things. it is screwed up how cocaine/crack is used to fund all sort of crazy shit, another reason why legalization is necessary, to be able to track the money being made with any drug selling.edit> although i don't know whether tracking legal money is possible or not anyway...

and here's a picture of a colombian bagseed x swazi red



peace
 
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