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the potential in south america

zamalito

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Bud, I'm fairly certain that seedbay ships frequently to canada with a near perfect success rate. However, I'm no expert you may wish to ask dutchgrown or another canadian member.

What is the muddy waters line, "gimme a little reefer when I wanna get high, but don't gimme no cocaine."?

I watched shotguns and accordions the other night. There were some very valuable interviews with cannabis growers and smugglers from around senaga/santa marta. Unfortunately, there was no information on cannabis use on the banana plantations during the plantation period (30's and 40's) or anything else that would give a better clue on where it came from. It was a terribly sad movie as it was made just after the fall of the trade in colombian gold. There were two mafias in the region, the white mafia (spanish descendants) and the black mafia (afro-colombian). One interviewee (I know, I can't spell) provided an interesting story of what he attributed to the fall of colombian gold. The demand at one point had gotten so high that the growers supplying the american smugglers who'd come had started putting miscellenious materials inside the bricks (dirt, various plant materials and even cow shit). The americans eventually caught on and started paying in counterfeit dollars. When the colombians started going to the banks with the money that they didn't know was counterfeit the banks stopped dealing with anyone that didn't look apropriate for posessing that kind of money. Then presumably the banks and larger members of the white mafia opened casinos which allowed the easy laundering of money for the less wealthy individuals involved but of course they lost a lot of their profits in gambling. This cycle just continued until the growers and transporters were just so preyed upon for their profits that they could no longer afford the necesary bribes to keep law enforcement in check and the whole deal dried up. The white mafia eventually moved on to cocaine production and smuggling while the members of the black mafia ended up putting the multiple girlfriends they'd used their wealth to acquire into prostitution. Like I said it was terribly sad. The wealth and the presence of the american dollar ended up having a very negative effect on the destruction of the culture then when the money left a very bleak picture remained when many longed for the days of working on the banana plantations.
 

zamalito

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Yeah the music was amazing and so diverse. The opening scene is shot at this once yearly occasion where all of the brass bands in town gather at the cemetary and all play simultaneously in an attempt to be heard by the dead and this theme repeats throughout the documentary. They talk about how many of their cumbia rhythms are intentionally distinct not so much to make them desirable but to make them their own so when their music is played elsewhere it allows them to be heard as a unique culture. The arhuaco footage is very striking and like viewing a time machine. Some of the traditional arhuaco musicians had replaced the flutes with accordions. The arhuacos view the breath blowing through their flutes as a way of changing destiny. While the music was amazing it still wasn't as striking as I'd expect and I think it was filmed at kind of a low point in their culture and musical history. They mentioned that at the time few people remembered the cumbia rhythms. The footage interviews information and general story make it an excellent movie.
 

Budelaire

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thanks Zamalito,

There is nothing like trying and buying, for the sake of getting back true South American genetics around (disappeared since 1979 here in Quebec).

Meanwhile, here are some pics taken 2 days ago. Early harvest of my Ecuadorian/Hawaiian sativa.

Peace and Pot (sativa)








 

Budelaire

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zamalito said:
That really is a pretty one, Budelaire my friend.

Thanks, The reason I had to harvest early buds is that I was not home for 2 days last week and my Hydro solution came dry. 15 % of the buds were damaged and I decided to harvest them and take some pics of them. These pics are from 5 week old flowering, out of 12, which is suggested by the seed breeder.

I have smoke some yesterday and boy, this is powerfull stuff, even half way to harvest. My big mama growing came back from its drought misery, and is pursuing its way to full bloom. I got lucky this time, I could have lost the rest of the garden (2 feet 6 in. Ecuadorian female + one Dutch Treat/Northern light)

I have some more projects, like growing some fabulous colombian / brazilian strains, which this time, I know where to get some of those rare beans. I am pretty sure I will astound some of my friends, since they have tried Colombian and Brazilian imported weed, back in 78-79. These were the daze....
 

PazVerdeRadical

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saludos

saludos

what's up everyone? hope all is good.

here's a picture of what is called a 'pedazo' which literally means a 'piece'. this is a pedazo de veinte, which means a piece of twenty:





twenty being its street value. twenty thousand bolivares equals to a little less than ten u.s dollars. for the fun of it a friend brought his digi scale to weight it.



the quality was very regular; came from colombia. pressed. skunky/spicy effect. alright taste and high, but doesn't compare to good home grown sinse though. making a mix of this herb with homegrown lebanese is pretty neat though :D :joint: it has few seeds, when you break it up u can see whole buds too, but not the best colombian pressed i've seen either, very regular but above average.

peace and have a good one
 
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Budelaire

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From the Los Angeles Times, on February 2, 2003

Steeve Kubby says of his plants, pointing out the different varietals: Island Sweet Skunk, a narrow leaf of deep green; Williams Wonder, broad and fat. Years of experimentation have taught Kubby what works best to ease his symptoms and pain while avoiding psychoactive jags and the munchies. His personal favorite, Celestial Temple Sativa, is an Ecuadorian native Kubby regards as “the most extraordinary pot I’ve ever experienced. You can smoke all day and be cerebral.”
 

Thule

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Just received some celestial seeds the other day! Finally got my hands on this treat.

Zamalito, do you think the celestial is a type 4 plant? I've heard that it's high resembles the type of high one might expect to get from malawi gold.

I will be doing a malawi x cts cross due to the short flowering time of the cts.
 
G

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The CTS sounds like the ideal strain for me, I'll have to pick up a pack. ISS sounds great too.
 

Ganico

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I was pissed off when I found out the CTS wasn't actually a pure landrace afterall.

I should really get over this whole prejudice of indica, but for some reason I don't trust it.

Man I just realized that I'm a plant and dog bigot, I swear. I have this idealism of pure sativas, purebred pitbulls,etc.

I actually love hybrids of human races though, and promote the co-mingling of races. I'm trying to use that to justify using a sativa-dom in breeding my "ultimate sativa" for my climate,haha.
 

Thule

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Ganico said:
I was pissed off when I found out the CTS wasn't actually a pure landrace afterall.

I should really get over this whole prejudice of indica, but for some reason I don't trust it.

Man I just realized that I'm a plant and dog bigot, I swear. I have this idealism of pure sativas, purebred pitbulls,etc.

I actually love hybrids of human races though, and promote the co-mingling of races. I'm trying to use that to justify using a sativa-dom in breeding my "ultimate sativa" for my climate,haha.

Hehe, I am a sativa purist too
:wave:
Where did you hear about the CTS not being pure, and what's in it then? :badday:
 
G

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Hi Ganico

There are some good reasons for outcrossing some pure strains, improving health and vigour is often a good reason, especially with a line that has been highly inbred. Any vet will tell you that mongrel dogs are always healthier and live longer than pure pedigrees. Many pedigree dogs have congenital defects from too much inbreeding, same thing happens with humans too, the royal families of europe are a great example., the whole science/art of geneology began in the middle ages and carried on until WW1 precisely to avoid inbreeding, the family trees of all the noble houses of europe were carefulyl maintained and studied when marriages were to be arranged, often sons and daughters, the princes and princesses were deliberately married to folks from unrelated bloodlines to 'bring in new blood' and avoid the genetic problems that began to occur due to inbreeding between a small number of royal bloodlines. The Autrian/Hungarian royal house of Habsburg is a great example, they were all haemaphiliacs due to inbreeding and the French royal house in the 1600s were derided for their 'weak chins' meaning they had withdrawn, malformed jaw lines, a congenital defect caused by intermarrying of people who ae related.

It is often possible to create a hybrid that is better than either parent, this is true of dogs, humans and cannabis.

Think of some of the finest, most alluring women, they often have exotic backgrounds, Salma Hayek is a very beautiful and exoptic woman, she has mixed Mexican and Lebanese parentage, Uma Thurman has mixed Irish and nativa American ancestry, point being, the best genetic examples are often hybrids.
 

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