The Postman's Overgrown Closet Grows #2

[Mister Postman]

Plant 3 I'm digging this plant.. It's starting to develop a real heavy trichome covering, and starting to smell really yummy.

plant 4

Plants 1 & 2 on page 15

 

[extinctx11]

Postman, everytime I re-read this thread I die laughing at this part

"DO NOT store the brew in sealed containers!! Kablam worm, and bat shit bomb LOL.."

I cant help but imagine this happening to me. its something I would do for sure.
they look amazing as usual. thanks for the updates, I check every day for them.

May I ask politely sir that you check my post for a minute and tell me what you think the problem is? I know you have seen this before, I am sure of it!
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=1268663#post1268663

 

[151kushmaster]

Plant #3 looks amazing Postman. Once you chop and cure those ladies can I come over for a taste? Once again everything is looking amazing! .

Later,

Kushmaster

 

[Mister Postman]

Postman, everytime I re-read this thread I die laughing at this part

"DO NOT store the brew in sealed containers!! Kablam worm, and bat shit bomb LOL.."

I cant help but imagine this happening to me. its something I would do for sure.
they look amazing as usual. thanks for the updates, I check every day for them.

May I ask politely sir that you check my post for a minute and tell me what you think the problem is? I know you have seen this before, I am sure of it!
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=1268663#post1268663

Octodiem gave you some good suggestions in his last post there i thought.

When was the last time you repotted that plant into something larger? If it's been some time, you should be able to lift the soil out of the container when it's dry to inspect the roots.. Inspect for root binding, or dark colored roots.. If it's root bound pot up into the ffof soil you got with the added perilite...

FFOF is really rich right out the bag, and compacts down a lot, and if you happen to water a lil to often you can end up with ph problems and nutrient lock outs etc.. if the roots are dark the problem could be stemming from soil compaction, and soggy roots.

ffof has oyster shell for ph control/calcium, so i wouldn't go adding to much dolomite IMO. Maybe half the recommended.. Actually run a ph test of the soil/perilite mix alone.. If it's acidic add the dolomite.. if it's a good ph I would leave out the dolomite as the soil does contain oyster shell, your ph'ing your water/feedings, on top of the average flower time not being long enough for the peat to break down to the point of throwing ph to far off. if you were growing organic, and looking to recycle soil I would recommend amending with the dolomite, along with ur other organic material after the first run, and allowing it to sit a bit.

It's p (red stems), and micronutrient problems showing in your plants IMO and that can be a soil problem causing the plant to lock out those nutrients (it's common) either ph, or compact soil-to much water, so check those roots. usually p, mag, and cal problems come in threes when soil ph is off. If the roots look good, and you still have room, I would make sure soil run off is in and around the 6.3-6.8 range, and I would start using a flower nutrient with higher p, k lower N now since your in flower.. I've never used fox farms line of nutes, and not sure how they are with micronutrient content, but I always liked a product like cal/mag plus when i was growing with bottled nutrients, just incase any micro deficiencies showed. Usually whenever I had a problem, and was feeding with complete bottled nutrients, and feeding good enough levels, it stemmed from the medium compact-overwatering- or ph.

From experience my ppp had red stems, it was also a purple pheno though, but I would not describe it how you did with it being splotchy, and darker on the effected leaves. That sounds more like a deficiency

 

[Mister Postman]

Plant #3 looks amazing Postman. Once you chop and cure those ladies can I come over for a taste? Once again everything is looking amazing! .

Later,

Kushmaster

Thanks bro..

PA. huh.... I always wanted to finish cracking that darn liberty bell, visit the Amish, and last week on the discovery channel they had a documentary of the Mutter museum and I sure would like to smoke out, and check out the bottles of aborted fetuses. I also have strange fascination with parasitic twins, and the reality of having an evil twin brother that eats u to death from the inside out..

 

[151kushmaster]

I've seen all the things you mentioned above. I wasn't sure what the Mutter museum was untill you mentioned it. I did alittle research and I believe I was there a few years ago but I'm not 100% sure. You would think that place wouldn't be easy to forget but I have been to several places of that nature. There are tons of things to do in the Philadelphia area it's a really interesting place. Pluss they make a hell of a cheesesteak!

 

[extinctx11]

Thank you, Mr. Postman, that really helps explain a lot, it sounds exactly like what is happening. How does one go about re-potting this plant (to "fix" the medium) if its roots have not fully entangled the entire "dirt ball"? An attempt to remove this plant from its pot by pulling it out feels like I am going to rip half the roots off. and I cant flip it upside down... its wayyy to big. If I correct the deficiency through proper feeding and flushing, do you think I can just finish it in this pot? I have clones so there is always next time around. Its pretty big for 50 days old, I think I did a bit too much LST or something because it just gets bigger and bigger regardless of any problems it has.

 

[Mister Postman]

Thank you, Mr. Postman, that really helps explain a lot, it sounds exactly like what is happening. How does one go about re-potting this plant (to "fix" the medium) if its roots have not fully entangled the entire "dirt ball"? An attempt to remove this plant from its pot by pulling it out feels like I am going to rip half the roots off. and I cant flip it upside down... its wayyy to big. If I correct the deficiency through proper feeding and flushing, do you think I can just finish it in this pot? I have clones so there is always next time around. Its pretty big for 50 days old, I think I did a bit too much LST or something because it just gets bigger and bigger regardless of any problems it has.

This is why asked how long ago have you potted up into that pot.. if it was recent transplant I wouldn't go pulling it up as the root ball will separate from the bottom soil if the roots have not reached the bottom of the pot yet. This will tell ya something though if u repotted into that pot a while ago and the roots are not along the bottom to the point you can pull the rootball out, then the bottom of the pot may have been staying wet enough to the point of preventing root growth down into the second half of the medium.

IF when you tried to pull up the rootball it separated from the bottom soil, and pulled up, you can go and add the lighter mixed soil in place of the soil that was left on the bottom of the container, or just transplant up into a larger pot with a lighter soil.. Looking at your plants it's early enough in flower where they would bounce back fairly quickly from a root disruption. Trust me my mother plants I actually lift out of their pots grab a scissor, and cut root balls in half LOL without much slow down, or time needed for rebound. So potting into a container with a lighter mix is a possibility, or you can bring your ph up a bit from 6.0 in your current soil/pot and really be careful with waterings making sure it dries out good before waterings.

I think your problem is stemming from the compaction of the ffof right out of the bag, along with slight overwatering... Maybe they showed a sign of deficiency, and over the next couple weeks to try and fix that you ended up watering to often and increasing the problem.. With a rich/heavy soil like that you have to be extremely "on" with your waterings, if your adding water before the bottom of the pot dries up to the point of causing the roots to wanna search down for water, it causes them to not receiving enough oxygen, and problems like this seem to pop a lot more often.. A lighter mix will allow for a faster dry out, and a more regular wet/dry cycle. While nutrient rich heavier soils that hold water/nutrient may be better for outdoor growing and bringing new organic material to the soil in the container it causes problems such as this. I find I have an easier time, and less trouble growing mj indoor when the soil is a lil looser allowing for a more regular wet-dry cycle.

 

[UnKnown]

Truly inspirational grow, and some super healthy looking plants you have there mate

 

[Guest]

Hashberry

Hashberry

Hey Postman, hows it goin? The new plants are lookin really nice. I was wanting to ask you about flowering on these HB's if you don't mind. Mine are getting pretty close. I looked at my trichs today and it really didnt tell me a whole lot. They appear dark, but theres no way they could be unless they are mature early. What kind or variance is there within the different types you have grown and does 56 days always hold pretty true for hashberry. Pistils are just starting to go red and trich production is great but they seem to have gotten to a point where things are slowing down. Any suggestions? I would hate to make a mistake with them at this point in my grow. Peace


edit:Sorry, I don't know where I got the 56 days, its 60-65.

 

[Mister Postman]

Hey Postman, hows it goin? The new plants are lookin really nice. I was wanting to ask you about flowering on these HB's if you don't mind. Mine are getting pretty close. I looked at my trichs today and it really didnt tell me a whole lot. They appear dark, but theres no way they could be unless they are mature early. What kind or variance is there within the different types you have grown and does 56 days always hold pretty true for hashberry. Pistils are just starting to go red and trich production is great but they seem to have gotten to a point where things are slowing down. Any suggestions? I would hate to make a mistake with them at this point in my grow. Peace


edit:Sorry, I don't know where I got the 56 days, its 60-65.

Well if they're all dark then that's telling you something.. What are u checking the trichs with? If your using hps lighting be sure to take the plants out from under them to check the trichs.. Sunlight through a window/skylight if possible without a security risk, or a bright white cfl is good lighting to see the color difference a lil easier.. I'm not the best trich checker, and had a really hard time when I had those magnifiers from radio shack LOL, but with a 30x jewelers loupe, and bright white light it got a lil easier to see them, and notice the difference between them

If your 60-65 days into flower with the Hashberry then I'd say your into the strains harvest window.. My plant I would take anywhere between 60-70 days (once letting it go even further to see how couchlock it could get depending on amber trichs). Mandala Mike recommends a 60-65 for the strain. Lighting plays a huge part in flower times in my experience though, so there is probably a good 2 week harvesting window depending on the light u use. I used 250's and at 60-65 I was mostly cloudy with about 25% degraded to amber. As far as trich coloring though I did see a faster harvest under my 400's then my 250's

I've come accustomed to ceasing nutrient feedings, and flushing when I start seeing a change to amber in the trichs. This has worked for the most part with the majority of the strains I've grown. Harvesting like that allows me a good 2-3 week flush if needed before hitting where I like to harvest my plants.. I grow organic so it's not really a flush like you'd when using synthetic nutrient salts, but I do water thuroughly the first day running some water through the pots, and then just water regularly and allow the plant to finish up on the nutrients in the soil, and burn up some reserves in the leaves.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Postman, I have really enjoyed your pics of Hashberry since I very first lurked upon the growers forumns. I know you know exactly how to get the most of them and thats why I come to you. Heres a pic of one of my soil girls that seems to be close to ready.



I need to get a better light supply when I'm looking at trichs, sounds like that might make a difference. But as far as the pistils are concerned, they are mostly white but increasingly going red. The aroma is really good and I did cut a lower branch but I will probably flush the soil girls real soon then start my dwc flush soon. Peace

edit: Sorry about the lame pic there, I changed the settings on my camera to where I think they'll be better.




This last one is of my dwc girls. They seem to really be pumpin out the trichs and looking vigerous. My soil was about as plain as you can get. I fed good water, magnesium sulfate and some hydrated lime. And just a touch of some bloom nutes.(very little) I am very happy with both but I firmly believe the soil will taste the best. Although the dwc are puttin out the giant buds I will be surpurized if the smoke is as full-bodied as the soil grown plants. Thanks man

 

[Mister Postman]

Uh what did u say these plants have been in flower 60-65 days? Maybe I misunderstood something along the way, or you have a few different plants but I went back and read through your journal on 9/4 you said they were about 2 weeks into flower, and that would put them at around 40 days?

I went back to read through your journal cause they did look a lil young for 60-65. Still quite a bit of fresh white hairs.. Overall they look absolutely awesome.. I would try and check the trichs out again with a bright light shining over where your inspecting.. What are using to view them with anyway? either way the light will help show some contrast and light up the trich heads as view them.

 

[Mister Postman]

Wonder Diesel

Power Diesel (PPP X Wonder Diesel) Different Pheno bud shots

 

[DrHydro]

Is that some mids?... LOL... Just fvckin with you(I just seen that grasscity post)...

 

[Mister Postman]

Yeah that one was a real winner... Probably not a day older then 13

 

[Guest]

Uh what did u say these plants have been in flower 60-65 days? Maybe I misunderstood something along the way, or you have a few different plants but I went back and read through your journal on 9/4 you said they were about 2 weeks into flower, and that would put them at around 40 days?

I went back to read through your journal cause they did look a lil young for 60-65. Still quite a bit of fresh white hairs.. Overall they look absolutely awesome.. I would try and check the trichs out again with a bright light shining over where your inspecting.. What are using to view them with anyway? either way the light will help show some contrast and light up the trich heads as view them.

Yes Postman, they are not that far along. I got another 2 weeks or so...As far as days but the soil plants seem to have matured faster for some reason. And I have a couple toys I'm looking at trichs with. I got a cheap stand microscope(but its pretty nice)but the light source on it is shitty. I've been propping up a flashlight to where it hits the mirror just right. But thats so ****in ghetto lol. My other thing is one of those handheld POS (piece O shit) bout a cluster trying to hold still and get close enough to stay focused. But I think if I can add some ggod light to that microscope thats probably the best bet.
I saw that shit over at GC too. You hit the nail on the head there with that one. TROLL or an enduring fan frustrated with their own failure as a grower. Or maybe just the remnants of GC mods trying to get back at ya...lol Peace

At any rate...**** em if they can't take a joke

 

[Guest]

And I figured it out about your plants...Your leaves are always so green! The new PPP are really nice man Cya

 

[Mister Postman]

And I figured it out about your plants...Your leaves are always so green! The new PPP are really nice man Cya

Yes uh what they were very green this run.. A lil TO green for my liking personally. With this soil mix I'm having trouble offering the plants the teas in flower I'd like too.. Any extra nitrogen they get, they show it, and it seems the lil nitrogen in the Jamaican bat poop, molasses, worm castings is just enough to do it.

I think it's the nitrogen sources in the fox farms POM Starter I use. I think the feather meal is to slowly released for the relatively short veg periods marijuana has, and repotting into this mix before flower was a mistake as I got another nitrogen-kelp boost right before the preflower stretch. I also would of benefited from a lil more perilite or a looser mix, and larger bags/pots. It's all a learning process. I used a similar soil mix last run with the wonder diesels, and they finished up just fine, so I should manage as long as I don't feed anymore nitrogen.. I picked up some earth juice bloom 0-3-1 which has no nitrogen. I plan on using some of that ej line next run as well.

It's getting there though. I learn a lil something with each run. Hopefully in time I can come up with something that works exactly the way I want it. I'd eventually like a soil mix fit for reuse with a lil re-amending. I'd like the plants able to feed solely off the soil through vegg, and still be able to offer a few flower boosting teas after the stretch and through mid flower, then finishing out with nothing but water for a nice clean burning product.

I recently mixed up a new soil mix containing Peat- Coco- 50/50 mushroom compost/shrimp-seaweed compost- perilite, and amended further with 1/2 the dose I used last run of the POM starter, 1/2 the dose of the kelp (as earth juice catalyst&bloom both have kelp), worm castings, and 1/2 dose of pelleted dolomite lime (POM has ph control and mag/cal sources). I added coco this mix as it takes a lil longer to break down lending itself a bit more fit for reuse, and it also helped loosen up the soil mix a bit more then the last mix I made. I'm trying to offer lots of different textures in my mixes, as I think it's good for root growth/health as it traps oxygen in the mix. I'm planning on transplanting them into larger finishing bags/containers a bit earlier in veg next run, and am hoping the half doses of kelp-POM-dolomite along with substituting out the dehydrated manure/humus compost of the current mix for a lighter mushroom compost should allow me a bit more feedings in flower. Next run I'm hoping to feed teas in flower consisting of ej bloom, ej catalyst, ewc, molasses, and when wanting to push add a lil meta-k, and a lil high p bat..

 

[Mister Postman]

Couple pics of some harvested Wonder Diesel budage.. These were the two I pollinated for some seed.

THE SEEDS!! prolly got quite a bit more lurking in them buds waiting to be discovered. What a racket this seed business is LOL (jk it's appreciated!!) I brushed the pollen on the hairs with a makeup brush though, and used a light breeze to further pollinate the plants. I'm really surprised with how many seeds I got considering the tiny amount of pollen I used on them. I could see a thorough pollination of a few plants of decent size yielding a shopping bags full o seed.... I'm really happy with the outcome though... These were certainly genetics I wanted to hold on to just in case I had to take down the lights for a bit, or happen to loose my clones. It's likely by searching those seeds I'd find better plants then the keepers I'm running now, so I'd like to drop a few soon and see what I can get outta the f2's.

Harvested off the Willy pheno..

Harvested off the Diesel pheno.