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the Mexican Landraces Thread

Greasy Glands

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18 Week Acapulco Gold from LiquidKid Stock cultivated organically in Canada. This Expression exhibited an Intersex Trait so thats where the seeds originated from but it was very few i found

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@hempy

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A close friend went to Mexico October last year and stayed in a costal town resort he told me it was owned by the cartels and you could by cannabis every were,The resort was closed off to locals beach roped off so on.Locals could come up to the rope and sell you what ever you liked basically.



He ended up getting him self some nice sativa smoke and plans to go back.
 

yesum

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Here is a Torreon x Michoacan from Snowhigh. One of the best highs I have, if not the best. Reminds me of another Michoacan, so not sure on which way this leans. I took a chance and put it outside for some pretty intense socal sun yesterday, before putting it in a dark tent to dry up. Outdoor is not allowed in my area.

The look of the plant is not quite Michoacan from what I remember, the buds are so small on this. This is tiny and delicate like the 'Acapulco Gold' that is sold by Snowhigh and Bodhi.

This appears to be a legit older line. No yield is a sign. Not a money maker.
 

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Pineapple_Punch

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Vermontmans Oaxaca79SKULL, today at Day 21 11/13......she is a bit Seeded up as she was in the airstream of the Oaxaca79SKULL male.

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Pineapple_Punch

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Cannabiogen Oaxaca79S1 dusted with Vmans Oaxaca79SKULL. Seeds are already forming. Lovely sweet honey lemon 7UP smell, like Mextiza.


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Pineapple_Punch

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Holycow what a beautiful plant! Its amazing what you were able to do with her!

Im happy that i not had a bigger pot/basket to hand, otherwise she wouldn't fit in the tent anymore. Normally she was my mother plant, but i thought why not let her flower and hold some smaller moms. :dancer: :D
 

AmericanFarmer

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18 Week Organic Acapulco Gold. The seeds were originally acquired from LiquidKid. She's my holy grail in 17 years of enjoying Cannabis. Absolutely stellar Euphoric/Uplifting/Day brightening effects with a woody flavour. Aromas of Musk/Cedar/Incense and Vanilla. Just an exquisite smoke in my opinion

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Do you have some beans I could trade you for that lovely sativa? @ greasy_glands?
 

elchischas

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Hola! Como va todo cabrones?!
Haven't around for a long time but now i'm back to still working with mota
By now i put this photos of one interesting plant comes from the south part of México
Hope you like it
 

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Som 2

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I posted this in the R.U.S.T. thread but it should probably go here too. I have some Mexican that I bred from two batches of bagseed in 1993. The mother line is actually from 1989. I would describe the mother as above average commercial Mexican of that era. It wasn't frosty or aromatic. It definitely wasn't what would have been called "kind bud" back then, but it had a really pleasant high with no ceiling. I had made seeds from that line because it was better than any of the other Mexican I had grown. But I continued to sprout bagseed and was basically playing bagseed survivor against the '89 for the next few years.

The father line was a single plant I got in 1992. A friend of mine gave me some seed that came from brick weed that was way stronger than normal brick. The male had an aroma even as a seedling, It was the only Mexican brick plant I ever sprouted that had that. In 1993 I crossed that male with my '89 Mexican regular line. The results were good and the '93 Mexican has been my main sativa ever since. That male made the line a lot stronger. It also made the buds much fluffier which makes me think that it is an older strain that predated the addition of indica into Mexican genetics. The '93 Mexican has the classic uplifting, happy, giggly high and trippy visuals - not like mushrooms or acid but it gives everything a shimmery look.

For the last 20 years I have been growing F2s from a batch that I made in 1998. I am still getting 80% to 90% germination on those. I also have about 20 of the original F1s left. I strongly suspect they are still viable because all my other old seeds that I have tested are. I always let my seeds dry for a few months and then freeze them during the time of year we have low humidity. It seems to work.

At some point in the future I am going to make more F2. Not this next winter but probably the winter after. I think I am going to do it in two batches so that F3s can be made by crossing cousins rather than siblings. It is my understanding that reduces inbreeding depression. They will be open pollinations so I can make 1000s of seeds. Once the US legalizes federally I will probably try to make them available in some form. I am not really motivated by money so I will probably give them away or sell them for a nominal amount. My main goal has always been to preserve the line until it could go back out into the world.

These are some photos from my most recent grow.

In veg:

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Early flower:

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Day 46 of flower:

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Day 66 of flower:

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My camera broke after I posted this last year so I was never able to post a final bud shot. I have a new camera now. This is the flower after a year cure. Aromas are of earth, bay leaf and a little bit of dried mint. Or, to put it another way, it smells like an aromatic version of the 80s Mexican brick weed that all older smokers in the US are familiar with. There is also a hint of lemon flavor to the smoke. It does not taste or smell good by modern standards, but I suspect that part of the awesome high of old Mexican weed came from the terpene profile that we bred out of it. The high is uplifting, energizing, giggly and somewhat psychedelic with no paranoia/anxiety.

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elchischas

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My camera broke after I posted this last year so I was never able to post a final bud shot. I have a new camera now. This is the flower after a year cure. Aromas are of earth, bay leaf and a little bit of dried mint. Or, to put it another way, it smells like an aromatic version of the 80s Mexican brick weed that all older smokers in the US are familiar with. There is also a hint of lemon flavor to the smoke. It does not taste or smell good by modern standards, but I suspect that part of the awesome high of old Mexican weed came from the terpene profile that we bred out of it. The high is uplifting, energizing, giggly and somewhat psychedelic with no paranoia/anxiety.

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Very interesting story Som
I made the 12 fingers pure mexican cross almost in the same way, I just found one single plant from a old pure mexican landrace with an unique profile,and Cross it with a pure Oaxaca male,i know that both lines are pure but hard to know the exactly origin región here in México.
 

Som 2

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Very interesting story Som
I made the 12 fingers pure mexican cross almost in the same way, I just found one single plant from a old pure mexican landrace with an unique profile,and Cross it with a pure Oaxaca male,i know that both lines are pure but hard to know the exactly origin región here in México.
Back when I was growing bagseed in the late '80s and early '90s nobody would ever tell you where the brickweed was from. Nearly all of it where I lived came through Sinaloa but I know that back then they were just reselling weed that was grown all over Mexico. The tiny amount that wasn't from Mexico was Southeast Asian sold by the Hmong. The Mexican plants and the Southeast Asian plants had very different looks so I can say for sure that the parents were from Mexico but I have no idea where in Mexico specifically.

By the time I made this cross I had probably flowered around 100 Mexican plants over the the course of the previous five years. This line was so much better than any of the other Mexican I had grown that I knew right away that I had something special. At that point I decided that I had to do everything possible to keep the line safe until it could go back out into the world after legalization.

Mexican was the default weed in the US for decades but most Americans have never had good Mexican, when I smoke this with people for the first time they are usually surprised by how it hits them, especially because it is so different than modern hybrids.
 
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yesum

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Might be Mexican Red Hair you have Som. Left to right in the pic is Mexican Red Hair, Sumatran, Golden Tiger, OH x Oaxacan with the Oaxacan winning the expression contest. I have another one with skinny leaves so the OH dominated it.

They are 11 days into flower so I figure the Mexicans are gonna be done in 8 more weeks or so as they are not skinny leaves and I like clear to cloudy resin. The Sumatran and Tiger are gonna need more time even with my 9/15 light schedule.

Snow was emphatic on the Mexican Red Hair being very good so I popped them first. He gave me Oaxacan Pine Melon and Mexican Punta Roja as well, all three are not to be shared I have to say. I have bought a lot stuff from him over the years and he is generous with freebies but usually they are crosses.
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Som 2

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It is definitely a version of Mexican Red Hair, but I always saw that as more of a generic term rather than a specific strain. Almost all of the Mexican bagseed I grew back then looked like Mexican Red Hair, I think it is just what most Mexican looked like before it was pressed into bricks. I think Mexican stopped looking like that once a certain percentage of indica was added to its gene pool.

Back then when I was sprouting brickweed bagseed ('88 to '93) most of it was sativa but about 20% were the classic unhybridized indica. I was in the Midwest, I am pretty sure that there were was nobody bringing in brickweed from central Asia into my city so I always assumed that was from the cartels starting to grow it in northern Mexico. Most of the indica was schwag, there is nothing less compelling than bad indica. I saw very few clearly hybrid plants from bagseed so the hybridization of Mexican cannabis we have now must have still been in its early days. Almost everything looked like it was all indica or all sativa with maybe just a little bit of the traits from one bleeding over into the other.
 
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