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*The K.I.S.S. Method*

RetroGrow

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no kidding. i am almost in disbelief but ive heard some crazy numbers recently from super dialed enviroments. one dude was pulling 3.75 per 1k here locally.

I have pulled over 2 GPW using stacked vertical lighting on tall sativas that had a two month veg. You need a ten foot ceiling though (or at least 9). That was in Hempy buckets with coco, using Maxibloom, silica, triacontanol, and bloombastic.
 
actually I'm pulling just over a gram per watt. with six plants I'm getting at or just above eight zips per plant. no topping, vegging to two foot just before going into flower, ending up at around six foot with the five gallon pot. I do a two part harvest giving the bottom third an additional ten days to two weeks before chopping it. what's funny is with the extra time the bottom gets it almost rivals what I get from the top two thirds. but yeah, the least I've pulled from this plant x6 is 46 and 3/4 ozs.

that's some awesome numbers you pulling. to get that with 6 plants you must be vegging clones for at least two months. I know a person that's pulling similar numbers and they are vegging 2-4 months. that's the only way to get that kinda yield. how long are you vegging?
 

superjet

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my bad, it was 6 zips a plant x 8 plants per two 600 watt lights. 5 weeks veg = 2 in the cloner 3 more (or less) after they're potted (usually 20" to 24") and then into flower.
 
superjet what ec are you feeding at ? sorry you may have mentioned this , but i have been reading this thread for over 60 pages now lol just recently switching to maxibloom in straight coco. what ec are you feeding at ... i already have floracious +, cal mag+, and an ro machine... my tap is 250ppm (.5 conversion) or .5 ec .... should i use ro or tap water ?? what ec should i use in veg with a 20 inch height so far and what should i use in bloom? if ro water how much if any calmag+?? ph? 5.8 ? 6? sorry for all the questions ... just have recently got some yellow leaves on the lower half of the plant with brown or black spots/ areas... wanter figure this out before flower thanks again
 

RetroGrow

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Did you read any of the thread at all? Doesn't sound like it, as all your questions have been answered.Tap water is fine with coco. It has calcium in it, so you do not need RO water or cal/mag.
800PPMs works fine. This is the KISS method. If you had done ANY reading at all, even the first few pages, you would know all that.
 

nukklehead

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Did you read any of the thread at all? Doesn't sound like it, as all your questions have been answered.Tap water is fine with coco. It has calcium in it, so you do not need RO water or cal/mag.
800PPMs works fine. This is the KISS method. If you had done ANY reading at all, even the first few pages, you would know all that.

Now retro stop telling everybody falsehoods :biggrin:

There is a whole economy out there that rides on complicated
nute regimens and it is hard enough to find a job...:biggrin:


Cant remember who said it but reminds of a quote I once heard..
"capitalism would never work if people werent so stupid"

Whooops... gonna get flamed for that..

Thats ok.. will sit back with my bag of popcorn and MAXIBLOOM
and watch a movie.

tee-hee
 
retro you come off as a d***. i was just asking because i have ran other nutes before with great success and just recently switched to maxibloom and am currently having problems with yellow leaves and black/brown spots... thought this was a place to ask questions. so if you dont have something positive to post i would greatly appreciate it if you kept your smart ass comments to yourself . thanks!
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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superjet what ec are you feeding at ? sorry you may have mentioned this , but i have been reading this thread for over 60 pages now lol just recently switching to maxibloom in straight coco. what ec are you feeding at ... i already have floracious +, cal mag+, and an ro machine... my tap is 250ppm (.5 conversion) or .5 ec .... should i use ro or tap water ?? what ec should i use in veg with a 20 inch height so far and what should i use in bloom? if ro water how much if any calmag+?? ph? 5.8 ? 6? sorry for all the questions ... just have recently got some yellow leaves on the lower half of the plant with brown or black spots/ areas... wanter figure this out before flower thanks again
i found 7 grams maxibloom to be way to strong in my system.
that said, i think .5e.c. might be a little light.
they will yellow out at too light of feed and maybe show the brown necrotic spots from being low on calcium and magnesium. i start at .6-.7 ec and dont go all the way past .8 til they get to a foot.then it was 1.0. til flip. i ended up switching to maxigrow in veg because its just as simple for me because i already use a seperate building for veg anyway. the maxi grow is showing me slightly easier to maintanin green leaves at a lower feed. but the maxibloom was fine too and the difference is not that much imo they both are fine . im feeding lush green veg plants about 18 inches at around 0.8-0.9 and im going up to 1.0 today as i can see a slight color change indicating i should increase.
im not adding calmag and my tap is super low. it reads 60 ppm at 700 scale. might as well be ro. im feeding foliar cal mag as needed once a week or so. i think has an ok ammount. exception was my og kush needed more so im gonna add 1 mil per gallon and also foliar as i get close to flip.
 
thanks man ! that helps a lot ! i am currently at 1.3 ec in straight coco and things are all messed up so i will lower my ec to around .7-.8 thanks again !!
 

RetroGrow

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retro you come off as a d***. i was just asking because i have ran other nutes before with great success and just recently switched to maxibloom and am currently having problems with yellow leaves and black/brown spots... thought this was a place to ask questions. so if you dont have something positive to post i would greatly appreciate it if you kept your smart ass comments to yourself . thanks!

You come off as an idiot. Typical. Come in at the end of the thread, and ask questions that have been answered on page one. Shows that you did not read any of the thread, and you have no respect for not wasting everyone's time and space. But never mind. Continue being an idiot and ask "superjet" what you should do. Do NOT read the first page of this thread. Only listen to superjet. He's the expert, and you are his grasshopper.
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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thanks man ! that helps a lot ! i am currently at 1.3 ec in straight coco and things are all messed up so i will lower my ec to around .7-.8 thanks again !!

i misread your post. i thought you said you were running .5 e.c. haha i was thinking that was really low for even clones. 1.3 was showing a little tip burn at my place. im runnung gg#4 a couple og kushes and thin mint cut of cookies. gg can take it but doesnt want it from what i hear and the other two can be finicky as well. i would imagine some of the less finicky strains could get hit a little harder but my runoff e.c. started to soar at even 1.3. i cut back and things looked a little happier. this round im going to see how low feed i can get away with and try for a super frequent feed time. dialing that root ball and feeding times is the trick.
 

superjet

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superjet what ec are you feeding at ? sorry you may have mentioned this , but i have been reading this thread for over 60 pages now lol just recently switching to maxibloom in straight coco. what ec are you feeding at ... i already have floracious +, cal mag+, and an ro machine... my tap is 250ppm (.5 conversion) or .5 ec .... should i use ro or tap water ?? what ec should i use in veg with a 20 inch height so far and what should i use in bloom? if ro water how much if any calmag+?? ph? 5.8 ? 6? sorry for all the questions ... just have recently got some yellow leaves on the lower half of the plant with brown or black spots/ areas... wanter figure this out before flower thanks again

my hanna meters at .5 ec so my ppms will be half that. I think your environment dictates what your plants need (ppms)more than anything, that's why what works for me might not work for others, but this is what I do: I mix my nutes in 5 gallon sparkletts bottles (I've got some forearms!) and feed dtw with 10-20% runoff min. every feed, I let pots lighten up a bit but you shouldn't let them dry too much (in coco) because once they crystalize at the root zone they are no longer available to the plant, so not too dry with decent runoff works for me. in veg I use maxigrow: 4 tsp. (the green scoop that comes with the fert) 1 tsp. epsom salt, 6 tsp. diamond nectar (gh humic acids), 1 tsp. armor si (gh silica), subculture-b (mixed with fert) every 7-10 days, subculture-m at all transplants (dust the holes or roots). this is the ratio I want and end up at about 850ppms, if I want my mix lighter like for my clones at 650-700ppms, I just pour off some mix and dilute with some ro water, my ro water is about 50-60ppms. I run this mix 10 days into flower with the addition of and starting of the floralicious plus, I never use this and the diamond nectar at the same time I just feel it's too much from the same source, more or less. in bloom I use the maxibloom at 4 tsp., 1 tsp. calimagic (gh cal/mag), 1 tsp. armor si, 6 tsp. diamond nectar, 2 tsp. floranectar (gh sweetener), subculture-b (every 7-10 days). I drop the cal/mag by the end of week 4 in flower. I feed with the floralicious plus about every 5-7 days starting at the flip to 12/12. I feel checking your runoff ppms are super important, I like to keep them to about 900-1000ppms (runoff) max for the first 4 weeks of flower and then I start tapering down (dilute) the feed mix starting week 5 to get lower runoff ppm readings (700-800ppms and lower). I use the koolbloom powder once (1 tsp. to 5 gal)) in the last half of week 6 and once more in the first half of week 7 (8 week strain) and then flush (just ro water). I start chopping at week 8 through week 10 from top to bottom. I used to keep it REAL simple like just maxibloom and ro/tap 50/50 and that was it! (no problems), but with these add ons that I now use the flavor and smell are off the chart (big difference I promise!).
 

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