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The Impeachment Of Trump

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minds_I

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Hello all,

tRump will forever have an asterisk (*) behind his name....a scarlet letter if you will.

minds_I
 

BlackBart

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That's because he is one of the best showman of our time . He constantly tells people how to think . You better believe it
 

St. Phatty

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Sounds like fucking bullshit:
...like holding Hitler as an expert in Judaism


Not only was Hitler knowledgeable about Judaism.

He helped Germany recover from the Weimar hyper-inflation and somehow built post WW1 Germany into an industrial powerhouse.

One of the key points of his domestic remedy - simply expelling Jewish people from positions in government, business, and academia.

Something worked for Germany.

THAT could not go un-punished.
 

Cannavore

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Trump has been a gift to the real left.... You think people like Ro Khanna, Ilhan Omar and AOC would have been elected, or Bernie basically shifting the entire party back to the left if Hillary won? Nope.
 

Microbeman

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Saul Alinsky”s Doctrine: 8 steps to topple a nation and create a socialist state
BY IWB · OCTOBER 16, 2015


1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).

6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor

Ringing any bells?

So far the present admin is using; 3, 6 and 8
 

Zeez

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Compare the education levels of trump supporting states to blue states and you'll see.

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/us-state-map-education-level/
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minds_I

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Hello all,

Subpoenas are here.

Nadler subpoenas Mcgan......buahahahaha

Destiny is fickle thing.

minds_I
 

Zeez

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I've met quite a few educated people and they are dumd as shit when it comes to real problems. Education means nothing if they have never worked a day In their lives and sponged off their parents or student loans for their education.

People with college education make more money than people without a degree. If more people in the country have degrees the country does better.

It's just that simple.
 

Brother Nature

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People with college education make more money than people without a degree. If more people in the country have degrees the country does better.

It's just that simple.


I disagree with this. The country does better economically, doesn't mean the people do better. The graduating student owing six figures to the government is in no way better for the student, but it makes the government look a lot more profitable, just like a large corporate hiring contract employees so it doens't have to pay benefits or holidays is more profitable on the books. Sure it looks better, but does it actually create a better company? I work with a lot of people who have PhD's, the large majority of these people have trouble doing basic tasks on their computers, the most necessary of all tools in the workforce today. Higher education doesn't mean higher intelligence, it simply means you can play the game better. It's almost Pavlovian, the more letters you 'earn' after or before your name, the more 'treats' society rewards you with. You're right though, it is very simple.
 

armedoldhippy

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People with college education make more money than people without a degree. If more people in the country have degrees the country does better.

It's just that simple.

i'm afraid that there are plenty of folks with degrees holding down jobs that involve a whole lot of "you want fries with this, ma'am ?..."
 

med4u

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Sounds like fucking bullshit:
...like holding Hitler as an expert in Judaism
...like viewing Andy Jackson as a native-American rights scholar
...like calling Ted Bundy a feminist
...like citing phrenology as proof of African racial inferiority

I’ve READ Alinsky: in fact, when this shitlist started going around, I dug out my old copy and read it again to be certain I remembered correctly, and I found out that I DO remember it correctly. Your ‘version’ isn’t ‘spin’, it’s not ‘opinion’, it’s not even an ignorant paraphrase.

It literally does not say OR IMPLY *ANY* of those things in your text-turd

It’s a weaponized fake, and YOU. CAN’T. TELL.

I hope that makes you feel vulnerable as fuck, because you and your circle-jerk believe a lot more bullshit than that, and a lot of it is even more fake than that - and all that bullshit is dangerous. To YOU, and to ALL OF US.

You SHOULD feel vulnerable, you SHOULD feel scared, because you bought every lie that’s strolled by and winked. You’re a pack of fools, and you’d better get wise before it’s too fucking late

Enjoy your guns and your vote and your 420 while you have ‘em, suckers, because you’ve packed the government with the gang that has been trying to take them ALL ALONG.

You must have the redacted version...:moon:
 

Zeez

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I disagree with this. The country does better economically, doesn't mean the people do better. The graduating student owing six figures to the government is in no way better for the student, but it makes the government look a lot more profitable, just like a large corporate hiring contract employees so it doens't have to pay benefits or holidays is more profitable on the books. Sure it looks better, but does it actually create a better company? I work with a lot of people who have PhD's, the large majority of these people have trouble doing basic tasks on their computers, the most necessary of all tools in the workforce today. Higher education doesn't mean higher intelligence, it simply means you can play the game better. It's almost Pavlovian, the more letters you 'earn' after or before your name, the more 'treats' society rewards you with. You're right though, it is very simple.

Brother, this has nothing to do with dogs salivating. On a individual level it has to do with the mental ability to do more complex tasks and having specialized knowledge that others don't have. People who don't have the capacity don't make it through college. People having the ability and the specialized knowledge, certified by a degree, generally have something they can make a better living with.

Bringing this back to my original point, Blue states generally have populations with more education and higher average income levels. This is easily verifiable. On a larger scale look at all European countries having free college and their standard of living. My wife was educated in Europe and she got something that blows away what's going on here.

I agree with you that higher education does not necessarily mean higher intelligence on an individual scale. On a large scale it probably does. This can be seen in numbers of college drop outs - they didn't have it. To your point, I think that anyone who has the ability should be able to go to public colleges for free.

i'm afraid that there are plenty of folks with degrees holding down jobs that involve a whole lot of "you want fries with this, ma'am ?..."

Sad but true.
 

Brother Nature

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I don't know Zeez, I salivate when money is held in front of me, as I believe do the majority of people. I also understand to get that treat that makes me salivate I have to play their game, e.g. hear their bell ringing. Humans can learn to ring the bell themselves though, so I guess that's where it differs. I wasn't trying to attack either, but I found your statement pretty broad and basic, so thanks for expanding on it.



My point was what is 'better'? The country I live in has a higher average IQ and higher average happiness than the US, but are we doing better economically, no. Higher incomes can also lead to more class disparity, I don't see that as a good thing, regardless of what color you rep. Just because the Bay area is better off than Flint Michigan economically and at the intelligence level, deosn't mean you or I can afford to live there or would want to. Neo-liberalism isn't the left as much as neo-conservativism isn't the right.
 

Absolem

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THIS is factual...and you should be ashamed for not even wondering about any of it


Thanks for the reply White Beard. My post was in response to med4u claiming Alinsky tactics were used only by dems or libs as he claimed. I was pointing out the tea party used Alinsky's tactics.

This was my post right below med4u.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Polit...and-why-is-Newt-Gingrich-so-obsessed-with-him

"FreedomWorks, the tea party group headed by former Republican House leader Dick Armey, gives copies of “Rules for Radicals” to its leaders. “His tactics when it comes to grass-roots organizing are incredibly effective,” FreedomWorks spokesman Adam Brandon told The Wall Street Journal. Tea partyers aggressively confronting lawmakers at town hall meetings is straight from Alinsky’s playbook."


My reply was to this post by med4u

Saul Alinsky”s Doctrine: 8 steps to topple a nation and create a socialist state
BY IWB · OCTOBER 16, 2015


1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people

2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.

3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).

6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.

8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor

Ringing any bells?

Peace
 

med4u

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Hey trump made it all the way to prez... and he still serving burgers n fries...he ain't scared...js
 

Zeez

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I don't know Zeez, I salivate when money is held in front of me, as I believe do the majority of people. I also understand to get that treat that makes me salivate I have to play their game, e.g. hear their bell ringing. Humans can learn to ring the bell themselves though, so I guess that's where it differs. I wasn't trying to attack either, but I found your statement pretty broad and basic, so thanks for expanding on it.



My point was what is 'better'? The country I live in has a higher average IQ and higher average happiness than the US, but are we doing better economically, no. Higher incomes can also lead to more class disparity, I don't see that as a good thing, regardless of what color you rep. Just because the Bay area is better off than Flint Michigan economically and at the intelligence level, deosn't mean you or I can afford to live there or would want to. Neo-liberalism isn't the left as much as neo-conservativism isn't the right.

I hear you Brother. It was broad and basic, but true, even the expanded. This is another level. Another term for it is social stratification (Burger King degree). It does create animosity, but I believe that it is good to have a motivation to want to do better and a cookie when you get there, just as long as some people don't get to steal all the cookies and fuck everybody else. I've worked in communist countries in the late 80's. It sucks. Also lived and worked in "socialist" countries. They are not really socialist, it's a misnomer.

I think we had it going pretty well in the 50s 60s and 70s, except for the war. The thing was that all the competition was decimated and rebuilding after WWII. Since then it's been all down hill and our acquired wealth was squandered on the war machine.

I respect your opinion and wouldn't take it as an attack. I listen to intelligent opinions and try to keep learning. Finding that I'm wrong isn't a bad thing.
 

Hammerhead

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You do not need to have a collage education to succeed. We teach and learn from others. As long as you have a HS education you wont have any issues doing complex tasks unless you have learning disabilities. Its ridicules when you need a AA just to get a interview today. To many company's are requiring higher education for positions that don't need them. New hires with AA/masters couldn't do much. We had to train them to be as competent as we where. .
 
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