The Haze discussion thread

[Ghost Protocol]

hey willy ,
yea man i hear you and agree too ,
if things had been clearer from the beginning from all camps ,
we would not be here and we likely could have avoided a bunch of heated debates ,
maybe we can just put it down to stoner stories ,
they are never terribly accurate,

a concise/brief description from the beginning would have definitely been the best way to go ,
its true it has been a bit of a merry go round , and until big herb investigated indepth ,
we all thought pure haze was colombian , thai , indian , i know i did and im certainly not alone ...

thanks for taking the time to state things clearly without any disrespect etc too man ,
i appreciate it ....

Ahem. It's a Colombian/Mexican x S. India x Thai. As in 50% Thai - the good ones anyway.

 

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Had nothing to do with big herb. He been ready. And looking excuse to seperate himself and leave that inferior crap in his wake for decades lol

 

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Try to visit him smoke some hash and get the shit he gave wernhart lol good luck pal aparently it does not even exists haha. Yeah naw. Wise up guys...

 

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Let's recap. Haze is pure lumbo lol, he did not breed it as much as preserve it. But this hf assension 1643 thai heavy shit gunna be released you bet your sweet ass he bred that haha. Got it yet?

 

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Punta rojo my ass dude - reel it in

 

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This is a post below of mine with Sams replies



Sams

Do you still have any OHaze seeds from G ? If soo have you tried to germ them ? NO I HAVE NONE LEFT JUST OFFSPRING.

From your post I assume Nevils Haze was from pure Lumbo correct? YES.

Nevil said you told him burning bush was an ancestor of his seed stock he acquired , the 66-70 dates labeled on Nevils seeds he acquired from you was a BS story ? NOT SURE BUT BURNING BUSH WAS PURE OHAZE I GREW AND NAMED.

The fact he got 7 seeds to pop out of thousands from 85 stock don’t sound right . But you would know best THE SEEDS I SOLD HIM HAD A VERY HIGH GERM RATE, HE DID NOT EVER GROW THOUSANDS FROM SEEDS HE GOT FROM ME AS FAR AS I KNOW.

Soo all the OHaze you sold to seedsman TFD positronics was pure Colombian? YES UNLESS SOLD AS A HAZE HYBRID.

The emphasis all these years folks have made on thai association to OHaze is funny I GAVE BOTH RL AND G THAI SEEDS I GOT FROM GOLDEN OFF THE STICK THAI THAT WAS FANTASTIC IN MAYBE 75 IN SC. THEY MADE A FEW HYBRIDS BUT G LIKE THE PURE OHAZE BETTER AND DID NOT USE THEM AGAIN, RL LIKED THEM BUT DID NOT KEEP CLONES SO THEY WERE GONE PRETTY QUICK, THE SAME WITH S INDIAN, KERALA. I MADE MORE HYBRIDS AS I FOUND THEM INTERESTING.

It seems you answered this already but I don’t understand, you never sold any Haze x Thai / S.indian as OHaze . But you said burning bush was OHaze with a strong Thai influence

Is burning bush Colombian x Thai ? Or pure Lumbo ? NO THAI IN IT.

I love details I appreciate you sharing more with us and setting some things straight, your wife manicuring and details of Nevils stock

I hope this future OHaze project comes to fruit and we can possibly have a taste or access to a representation from someone who knows it best

TIME WILL TELL.
-SamS


Much Respect

1luvbigherb
Last edited by Sam_Skunkman; 04-26-2019, 14:20.

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Stop believing everything you read . Sams was on the scene two years or Soo after the creation and knows the guys involved in the creation and history of the Original Haze .

Aside from Sams No one else currently posting has any first hand knowledge. After the crossing of Original Haze to Thai and S.Indian it was not OHaze . Remember it was only one year and it was only by R.L who was not the originator but a partner some years later because of his greenhouse

Btw the guy who helped G in the mountains (j) was not the same guy who created the poster (RL)

Believe what you wish , The Thai = Haze bs / 3 way lumbo or Punto Rojo . But let’s not rewrite the history , just enjoy whatever’s you like and what’s available

Btw there’s several more detailed post from Sams in relation
To the Original creation and additional genetics

1luvbigherb

sam is lying to you for some unknown reason lol. He already on record before you born. The lumbo was already meckied out before he got it he dont even know what the damn male was. He got some of that crossed to s. India and some of that crossed to thai. This latter was the best.

 

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Any geneticist worth his salt can see him sweating his ass off in that call interview using words like hybred instead of hybrid and changing the damn topic at every turn. I don't know why he is doing it but it is very obvious he is lying his ass off. The sheer ignorance of the interviewers wanting only to believe their own narative exactly like you bh - is to blame. You can bet ypur sweet ass i'd never in a million years swallow that load of jizz you all are lol.

 

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Sam got a meckie lumbo hyb at best from the haze bros never pure lumbo. Prolly that x india and this x thai. This 3 lumbo haze story is complete horseshit sam come clean - shame and tsk. You dont get to lie about shit just because these other douchebags stiffed you i think you been in eu too long.

 

[harvestreaper]

Sam got a meckie lumbo hyb at best from the haze bros never pure lumbo. Prolly that x india and this x thai. This 3 lumbo haze story is complete horseshit sam come clean - shame and tsk. You dont get to lie about shit just because these other douchebags stiffed you i think you been in eu too long.

you a funny fucker lol weve established no one knows for sure ,,,there no prizes for best guess ,,sam either dont know or dont care lol

 

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you a funny fucker lol weve established no one knows for sure ,,,there no prizes for best guess ,,sam either dont know or dont care lol

You have not established anything. Again. Read clarkes origin of the species on haze he will briefly walk ypu through the difference between colombian/mexican vs colombian x mexican. The former being the beginning of haze as sam has repeated for the past 30+ fecking years. You clowns just cant read or understand the significance of what the hell you been reading for 30 years thats all.

 

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Sam knew damn well when he got it he had no idea if it was mexican x colombian or columbian x mexican and had to lable it mexican/colombian. As in he got a hybrid originally with no idea of how it was made not some pure lumbo that is all 100% bullshit after the fact.

 

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For 30 years the man has been telling you it started with a meckie lumbo hyb he knew little about and now you swallowing this puta rojo jizz lol yes thats how much / vs x tells you if you are astute.

 

[harvestreaper]

You have not established anything. Again. Read clarkes origin of the species on haze he will briefly walk ypu through the difference between colombian/mexican vs colombian x mexican. The former being the beginning of haze as sam has repeated for the past 30+ fecking years. You clowns just cant read or understand the significance of what the hell you been reading for 30 years thats all.

sounds like you hold him in high esteem ,,ive never read it ill look it up thanks for tip,,but without reading it he for sure aint seen every variable from mexico or columbia combined or otherwise has he ,,,so and educated opinion is no more than that for me which means we still dont know ,,i can appreciate your interest and passion but all truth has to be proven to qualify as reality personally i dont care who right but would love to see truth proven

 

[harvestreaper]

Sam knew damn well when he got it he had no idea if it was mexican x colombian or columbian x mexican and had to lable it mexican/colombian. As in he got a hybrid originally with no idea of how it was made not some pure lumbo that is all 100% bullshit after the fact.

perfectly reasonable theory like a few others floating about

 

[harvestreaper]

if sam was gonna come clean he would of by now so like i say for me he either dont know or dont care.. im more interested in what can be done with the genetic in a tangible way ,,,

 

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Tell you guys what. Clarke does not mix words or write shit that can be proven wrong later show me even 1 intsance in his career it just does not happen. He told you the real about haze in cannabis culture origin of the species end of.

 

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Listen to sam on tape again lol. He fucking lying lol

 

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if sam was gonna come clean he would of by now so like i say for me he either dont know or dont care.. im more interested in what can be done with the genetic in a tangible way ,,,

What the fuck does that even mean done with the genetic in a tangible way?

 

[harvestreaper]

always thought early haze pics i seen looked mexican others more columbian ,,,when i crossed acapulco gold to,uhkrul i got very haze like plants to,, that got me wondering lol but hey its add up to nothing,,, im past caring as long as you can maintain /preserve improve it from here on'' it dont matter ,,its like it would just be the cherry on top as to breeding with its true genetic known absolutely but hey it seems to be doing fine without that knowledge

 

[harvestreaper]

What the fuck does that even mean done with the genetic in a tangible way?

meaning id rather try an grow breed from the hazes available today than play guessing games